Confirmed with Link: Bannister Out, Monty In

TheDizee

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So what was the point of giving Bannister a TWO year contract again?

I am thrilled he is gone, but even a blind man could have seen this coming. Army is a fool sometimes.
 

Brockon

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I’m talking about his entire tenure with the Blues organization. To act like it’s just 20 games is a bit disingenuous as he was here the majority of last season as well and coached our AHL team for years before that. Didn’t really see any of our prospects thriving under him at the AHL level, unless I’m wrong who exactly has he had a hand in helping to develop over the years he’s been here?

Neighbours for 23gp in 2022-23, who looked pretty good in 2023-24 in his 77 NHL games with Bannister at the helm as interim coach for 54 games.

Perunovich for his time in Springfield
2021-22, 17 gp 3-19-22p (NHL 19 go 0-6-6p)
2022-23, 22 gp 2-18-20p
Perunovich has started to settle into a role on our current roster and I think a large portion of his struggles should be attributed to injuries and missed playing time as opposed to an indictment on the coach's ability.

Toropchenko
2019-20 59gp 5-4-9p Bannister San Antonio
2020-21 45gp 7-4-11p KHL Kovalev Kunlun
2021-22 42gp 10-10-20p (NHL 28gp 2-0-2p)
2022-23 5gp 1-2-3p (NHL 69gp 10-9-19p)
2023-24 NHL 82gp 14-7-21p
Solid bottom 6 forechecking machine, with Bannister coaching him in his 2 seasons he played in the AHL and then last year as the primary coach in the NHL. How much impact did Berube have in the 28 NHL games in 2021-22, NHL 69 games in 2022-23 and 24 NHL games in 2023-24 vs Bannister's 42 AHL games in 2021-22, 5 AHL games in 2022-23 and 54 NHL games in 2023-24 can be asked.


Walker
2013-19 Hershey Bears under various coaches
2019-20 San Antonio under Bannister
2021-22 Springfield under Bannister
Not developed under Bannister, but certainly the complaints about Walker have lessened for the 2023-25 NHL appearances after Bannister had time with him compared to his usage under Berube's coaching in 2021-23.

Kessel
2021-22 15gp 0-3-3p (after 37 NCAA games)
2022-23 71gp 5-28-33p (NHL 2gp 0p)
2023-24 36gp 3-5-8p (NHL 39gp 1-6-7p)
Bannister is the only pro coach Kessel has played significant games under. Berube would have been around for a handful of his pro games as coach - but Kessel was an NCAA/Bannister product.

Bolduc
QJMHL until 2023.
2023-24 50gp 8-17-25p (NHL 25gp 5-4-9p)
Mostly Bannister here, really difficult to judge how effective that time was/wasn't.

Hofer
WHL until 2019-20. AHL 1gp for San Antonio
2020-21 10gp for Utica - Trent Cull coach, Bannister Associate Coach
2021-22 39gp (NHL 2gp)
2022-23 47gp (NHL 6gp)
2023-24 NHL 30gp
Mostly Bannister as head coach for Hofer here. Fair question to ask how much influence is head coach working with goalie vs the goalie coach.

Kyrou
2018-19 47p 16-27-43p (NHL 16gp 1-2-3p)
2019-20 16gp 9-6-15p (NHL 28gp 4-5-9p)
NHL player since then. Only Bannister was only AHL coach he had.

Walman
2016-17 NCAA, 7 AHL games w/ Chicago wolves
2017-18 40gp Chicago coach R. Thompson
17gp Binghamton R. Kowalsky
2018-19 66gp San Antonio Bannister
2019-20 57gp San Antonio Bannister
NHL after this. Gone, not really diving into this. Many fingerprints in play.

Not really sure who else you can classify as a prospect that Bannister had the opportunity to work with - our prospects haven't played a significant amount of time in the AHL recently as we haven't really had many. Largely a product of our success and cup win.

Worth pointing out that Hofer, Neighbours, Toropchenko, Kyrou and Kessel all developed into steady pros under his AHL influence. Can easily argue that Walker, Perunovich and Bolduc have shown improvements under his guidance to lesser extents - these 3 are separate because they've had other contributing factors or shorter spans under Bannister than the first grouping.

Edit: fixed dates under the Toropchenko entry that were off by a year in the short blurb
 
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Mike Liut

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So what was the point of giving Bannister a TWO year contract again?

I am thrilled he is gone, but even a blind man could have seen this coming. Army is a fool sometimes.

He was just a placeholder until something better came along. I wish him the best, he seems like a good dude.
 

Reality Czech

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He was just a placeholder until something better came along. I wish him the best, he seems like a good dude.

The two-year deal is a bit of a head-scratcher but not a huge deal in the end. I doubt Bannister had enough leverage to demand a 2nd year but I guess it was a gesture of good faith from the organization. Very few NHL coaches become successful without being fired once or twice. I wish him the best as well.

One thing I was thinking about is the 5-year term, which is a lot longer than most NHL coach contracts. Was that Monty saying "if you want me, show me how badly or else I'll wait and see what other offers are out there" or Army's decision to make sure he got his guy. Would a 2-4 year deal not have got it done? I just find it interesting because I can't recall many coaches getting a 5-year deal in the past, although I know not all coach contracts are made public.
 

BlueDream

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It’s not a head scratcher at all. A coach isn’t signing a one year deal and standing on the bench as a lame duck. They are going to get at least some security with the 2nd year.

The fact that it wasn’t 3 years is why it was obvious he was a stop-gap.
 

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