Confirmed with Link: Avs trade Annunen and 2025 6th for Scott Wedgewood (NSH)

[Balthazar]

Annunen has JoJo level of NHL upside. There's nothing there.

Personally I much prefer Wedgewood..32 isn't old for a backup goalie and he was decent not long ago. There's a risk because of the cap hit and the extra year but it's not a huge risk.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

 

[Frenchy]

I dont understand the move as Annunnen was a problem in net but he wasnt THE problem.
Annunnen had a a few good games with the Avs , but as soon as Georgiev was back from his "mental problems " they took the net away from him , to only put him back for a game here and there .
That's when Annunnen started to be really really bad .

Another thing that dont make sense, why get rid of Kahkonen after giving him 1 games IF you had in mind to trade Annunnen for an older and more expensive Goalie. Just trade Annunnen for a pick and keep Kahkonen. i'm sorry sorry doesnt work with the timeline .

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[Pokecheque]

I dont understand the move as Annunnen was a problem in net but he wasnt THE problem.
Annunnen had a a few good games with the Avs , but as soon as Georgiev was back from his "mental problems " they took the net away from Annunnen, to only put him back for a game here and there .
That's when Annunnen started to be really really bad .

Another thing that dont make sense, why get rid of Kahkonen after giving him 1 games IF you had in mind to trade Annunnen for an older and more expensive Goalie. Just trade Annunnen for a pick and keep Kahkonen. i'm sorry sorry doesnt work with the timeline .

I mean, he was part of the problem, and the easier contract to move. That's why I think this is a precursor to a larger deal, though what that is, I have no idea.

They were clearly done with him after that last faceplant. Bednar didn't even try to hide his disgust after the game. The fact they moved him right before the second half of a back-to-back tells you how much they were done with him.

 

[Lonewolfe2015]

Super disappointed. Annunen had some potential in him, maybe not starter but at a minimum a solid backup. Avs failed him badly.

 

[hockeyfish]

I dont understand the move as Annunnen was a problem in net but he wasnt THE problem.
Annunnen had a a few good games with the Avs , but as soon as Georgiev was back from his "mental problems " they took the net away from him , to only put him back for a game here and there .
That's when Annunnen started to be really really bad .

Another thing that dont make sense, why get rid of Kahkonen after giving him 1 games IF you had in mind to trade Annunnen for an older and more expensive Goalie. Just trade Annunnen for a pick and keep Kahkonen. i'm sorry sorry doesnt work with the timeline .

I agree with your 2nd point. But in regards to your 1st point, If Annunnen is going to be a backup, which I think most would say is reasonable, he's only going to get a game here or there. Thats simply what backups do. If he was proving to not be able to be a backup, moving on was the right call.

 

[Balthazar]

I mean, he was part of the problem, and the easier contract to move. That's why I think this is a precursor to a larger deal, though what that is, I have no idea.

Can you explain that logic? Why would they move Annunen first if they had a bigger move planned to replace Georgiev? They added money, that's the opposite of making cap room for a bigger piece.

Trading Annunen for Wedgewood was easy, Nashville more than likely wanted out of that contract and Annunen is cheaper and isn't signed next year. Preds got a free pick on top of that only because they know the Avs are desperate.

 

[BobRossColton]

He's going to become another Pickard or Martin

 

[Pokecheque]

Can you explain that logic? Why would they move Annunen first if they had a bigger move planned to replace Georgiev? They added money, that's the opposite of making cap room for a bigger piece.

Trading Annunen for Wedgewood was easy, Nashville more than likely wanted out of that contract and Annunen is cheaper and isn't signed next year. Preds got a free pick on top of that only because they know the Avs are desperate.

Because they knew Annunen was not going to get another start for the Avs. They knew they were done with him. Finito. And he has actually been the worse goalie since the start of the season, so it makes sense they'd at least try to solidify the backup position to give them just a little more time to try and secure an actual starting goaltender.

I cannot believe for a moment that MacFarland and Sakic are looking at the body language and quotables from those players and thinking everything is okay with the coach. They CLEARLY don't trust Georgiev, and they clearly don't like him either. It's a five-alarm fire situation and they are desperately trying to present a veneer of calm when in fact they are likely in full scramble mode.

 

[dahrougem2]

And he has actually been the worse goalie since the start of the season

This is statistically not true.

Of 77 goalies to play this season per-60 Georgiev has saved -0.75 GSAA (66th) while Annunen has saved -0.43 (55th).

 

[hockeyfish]

Because they knew Annunen was not going to get another start for the Avs. They knew they were done with him. Finito. And he has actually been the worse goalie since the start of the season, so it makes sense they'd at least try to solidify the backup position to give them just a little more time to try and secure an actual starting goaltender.

I cannot believe for a moment that MacFarland and Sakic are looking at the body language and quotables from those players and thinking everything is okay with the coach. They CLEARLY don't trust Georgiev, and they clearly don't like him either. It's a five-alarm fire situation and they are desperately trying to present a veneer of calm when in fact they are likely in full scramble mode.

Eh, Avs are 7-3 in their last 10 with some very tough matchups and have managed to move up into a tie for the last wildcard. They have some runway to give the situation. Give Georgiev through Janurary to prove he can be the guy, while also gaining clarity of Landy.

 

[Pokecheque]

Eh, Avs are 7-3 in their last 10 with some very tough matchups and have managed to move up into a tie for the last wildcard. They have some runway to give the situation. Give Georgiev through Janurary to prove he can be the guy, while also gaining clarity of Landy.

I don't think they'll make a panic move--Sakic even with the insanely awkward Duchene situation waited everyone out--but I do think they're trying like hell to make a move. But I don't believe they think Georgiev will just figure it out, and if they do, they should all be fired into the f***ing sun.

This is statistically not true.

Of 77 goalies to play this season per-60 Georgiev has saved -0.75 GSAA (66th) while Annunen has saved -0.43 (55th).

I should have phrased it better, I meant to say "after Georgiev's awful start." Annunen had, like, two really good games, then essentially imploded after that. It ain't like Georgie's been a Vezina candidate in that time, but IMO he's been better.

 

[dahrougem2]

I don't think they'll make a panic move--Sakic even with the insanely awkward Duchene situation waited everyone out--but I do think they're trying like hell to make a move. But I don't believe they think Georgiev will just figure it out, and if they do, they should all be fired into the f***ing sun.


I should have phrased it better, I meant to say "after Georgiev's awful start." Annunen had, like, two really good games, then essentially imploded after that. It ain't like Georgie's been a Vezina candidate in that time, but IMO he's been better.

I don't know that it's fair to remove Georgiev's awful start and then compare the two goaltenders. Why not then remove Annunen's poor games?

Annunen has been better IMO, which isn't saying much since both are negative value goaltenders.

 

[Ceremony]

We'll always have his abs and the Big Hat

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Can you explain that logic? Why would they move Annunen first if they had a bigger move planned to replace Georgiev? They added money, that's the opposite of making cap room for a bigger piece.

Trading Annunen for Wedgewood was easy, Nashville more than likely wanted out of that contract and Annunen is cheaper and isn't signed next year. Preds got a free pick on top of that only because they know the Avs are desperate.

Annunen is signed next year… for $875k lol

 

[Pokecheque]

I don't know that it's fair to remove Georgiev's awful start and then compare the two goaltenders. Why not then remove Annunen's poor games?

Annunen has been better IMO, which isn't saying much since both are negative value goaltenders.

I just don’t think Annunen is NHL caliber at all. Georgiev is, but has the mental fortitude of a sickly banana slug.

Avs just should’ve moved on from both a while ago. Thinking either was an option for a team with Cup aspirations just tells you how utterly broken their goalie evaluation/development department is.

 

[Balthazar]

Annunen is signed next year… for $875k lol

Yea, they can bury that so that's no real cap hit commitment.

 

[Gumballhead]

Hahaha, classic Avs HF board overreaction from a lot of people. "We need a backup, our goalies all suck!" and then we make a minor trade and it's "FIRE CMAC!!!"

I think Wedgewood will be fine as a backup, and I'll feel much better having him take over for Georgie if he implodes again. We had two shellshocked goalies and the team itself is probably a bit shellshocked from the bad goaltending behind them - something needed to give. I felt that Annunen needed a reset and to play a lot of minutes to get straight. There was no path to that here with no reasonable backups, and I had zero confidence in him to be better than Georgie or even a useful backup at this point. It seems like maybe the org was ready to move on from him completely with this move, so it's probably better for all parties that this happened now. The Kakonen thing I am guessing had to be procedural and cap related, they didn't give one game and then decide to get rid of him.

I'm glad we did something, and Wedgewood will probably look a lot better with us than with Nashville. He'll be motivated as well, and I think we can assume his head is in a better place than Georgie or Justus right now.

 

[forsbergavs32]

Hahaha, classic Avs HF board overreaction from a lot of people. "We need a backup, our goalies all suck!" and then we make a minor trade and it's "FIRE CMAC!!!"

I think Wedgewood will be fine as a backup, and I'll feel much better having him take over for Georgie if he implodes again. We had two shellshocked goalies and the team itself is probably a bit shellshocked from the bad goaltending behind them - something needed to give. I felt that Annunen needed a reset and to play a lot of minutes to get straight. There was no path to that here with no reasonable backups, and I had zero confidence in him to be better than Georgie or even a useful backup at this point. It seems like maybe the org was ready to move on from him completely with this move, so it's probably better for all parties that this happened now. The Kakonen thing I am guessing had to be procedural and cap related, they didn't give one game and then decide to get rid of him.

I'm glad we did something, and Wedgewood will probably look a lot better with us than with Nashville. He'll be motivated as well, and I think we can assume his head is in a better place than Georgie or Justus right now.

I’m fine with Wedgewood as a marginal upgrade on Juice, but I don’t think we should have had to pay a 6th on top of taking on more salary and the older goalie. My guess is teams had the Avs in a bad situation because everyone knew they were looking for a goalie so it ended up costing more

 

[the_fan]

Avs are just not in position to have expensive goalie tandem. We can’t afford to have like a 10 mill goalie tandem. Right now we’ll take any upgrade. If we’re paying 700 or 800K more for a back up and it’s an any kind of upgrade, we’ll take it. Next we need to upgrade the starting position, but we can’t pay too much money for the starter either. If we can get a Gibson with 50% retentions, we should do it

 

[Gumballhead]

I’m fine with Wedgewood as a marginal upgrade on Juice, but I don’t think we should have had to pay a 6th on top of taking on more salary and the older goalie. My guess is teams had the Avs in a bad situation because everyone knew they were looking for a goalie so it ended up costing more

I don't think it's a high price at all, would have gotten much worse closer to the deadline - some other teams might have injuries or want a veteran backup. We desperately needed one. Hopefully he's good enough! Goalies are so unpredictable I have no expectations at all, whereas I had negative expectations for Annunen this year. He was cooked here, and I hope he finds his game or else he'll be back in Europe soon.

 

[kchan9]

I agree.

The Wedgewood move won’t make much sense if we gonna keep Georgiev and continue giving him 60 starts. It’s hard to tell what the plan is as far as Georgiev. Are they just gonna ride out his contract and let him walk after this season, or CMac is actually working on trading for a new starter. I’d imagine he has to be working on trading for a new starter. Everyone is talking about how bad our goaltending has been, and I’m sure CMac is aware of it

Is CMac aware though? He had the entire summer to figure this out and decided to do nothing about it. Georgiev is not the answer to any contending team that has aspirations of winning the cup.

 

[Avsfan1921]

The Avs are in literal cap hell. They are making daily transactions just to find any possible wiggle room.

They just added a horrendous goalie for almost double Annunen's cap hit AND sent a draft pick.

It's insanity.

We added almost 2x the cap space of Cheeks for someone 8 years older. We're already in cap hell. This was an atrocious trade. There is no getting around that

2x the cap space of a league minimum player lol. We all know money is tight but this is a minor inconvenience at most. If they need to make a trade, clearing 700,00 or having that retention on said player is not the end of the world. Sure, we think they should have found a way to even salaries but again, “atrocious” and “insanity” is going to far. And before he even plays a game, no less. I could understand the outrage on a player making a significant amount but this ain’t it.

 

[dahrougem2]

2x the cap space of a league minimum player lol. We all know money is tight but this is a minor inconvenience at most. If they need to make a trade, clearing 700,00 or having that retention on said player is not the end of the world. Sure, we think they should have found a way to even salaries but again, “atrocious” and “insanity” is going to far. And before he even plays a game, no less. I could understand the outrage on a player making a significant amount but this ain’t it.

You realize every dollar matters for a team like the Avs, right? And you have no issues spending an additional 700K on a goalie who is essentially the same caliber as Annunen?

Make it make sense.