Confirmed with Link: Avs Sign Oskar Olausson to ELC

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Bowers and Kaut were trash and entitled f***s. They sure made it after leaving the Avs!

OO just has no motor, he's not engaged at all.
I mean I agree he has no motor. But I also just don't think he's that talented. I think he has a decent shot, but nothing better than above average at the absolute best at the NHL level. And other than that what is he good at? He's a fine skater, he's not really a great playmaker, he's ~average size, stick skills are fine. He's just not very talented and then add in the lack of motor and it makes it worse. But in the end his talent is just severely lacking.
 
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Wasn't there big arguments a few years ago that the Avs showed huge favouritism and blocked some prospects?

None of these guys have shown shit even as AHLers in other organizations. So I'm more inclined to think the Avs generally suck at drafting. They also very likely suck at development too. But choosing to not invest resources in developing OO types isn't really a bad choice. The bad choice is drafting them in the first place.
 
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The Red Wings drafted incredibly well for a long time, and they got an unprecedented playoff appearance streak because of it. Getting core players like Datsyuk and Zetterberg out of late round picks basically gave them an immediate second window after the Yzerman era was over.

I think our ship has sailed on that front. For one, it's way harder to find superstars in the 7th round now just in general. And even if we did manage to turn Christian Humphries and Maros Jedlicka into 100 point players the salary cap would probably still tear the team apart in a few years anyway.

What goes up must come down in the modern NHL, I don't think better drafting would really be making a huge difference for the window unless we had managed to draft a franchise goalie somewhere between 2012 and 2019 who could hold the net down right now. The difference that Shesterkin, Sorokin, Dostal, or Wolf would be making on this team right now is pretty obvious. Other than that though, the only thing better drafting would be doing is reinforcing the bottom six forwards and bottom 3 D, while complicating our cap situation even more.

Drafting well accrues assets and depth. Even if you get out priced due to the cap, those are players that you either keep and move out an older piece, or they are pieces that you can trade. Having draft busts repeatedly limits the assets you have and they don’t have any positive effect on the roster. It definitely closes the window.

Honestly, just take a look at Dallas. Their window looked like it was closing, but having Hintz, Robertson, Oettinger, Johnston and Stankoven become meaningful pieces has turned their aging core to a second competitive window.
 
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Wasn't there big arguments a few years ago that the Avs showed huge favouritism and blocked some prospects?

None of these guys have shown shit even as AHLers in other organizations. So I'm more inclined to think the Avs generally suck at drafting. They also very likely suck at development too. But choosing to not invest resources in developing OO types isn't really a bad choice. The bad choice is drafting them in the first place.
It's most likely a bit of both. For a while under Pracey and Hepple, it seemed like they would target good junior players in the late rounds, but fail to notice that they had no real projectable pro level skills. Beaudin, Bigras, Shvyryov, Smirnov, Saigeon, Beaucage, Stienburg, all of them just flamed out as soon as they hit the pros because their strengths weren't suited for that type of hockey. Hell, Jost, Kaut, OO, and Newhook also fit that description.

That could also be used as evidence that promising players stagnate as soon as they really get into the Avs development system. None of the guys they got in ever took the last step. I used to think the development system was the prime culprit, but now I think both the scouts and the development team share blame for that era of duds.

It does seem like the Avs have shifted their philosophy a bit by targeting some guys like Prishchepov, Fisher, Pitner, and Jedlicka who aren't really high skill types but have some projectable pro skills that could make them good depth players. And IIRC the development staff has turned over a lot, too. So we'll see where the next few years take us I guess. I think there's cause for cautious optimism but I understand why this board would be jaded after all of the strikeouts.
 
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He sucks. He just never progressed from where he was as an 18 year old, either with his all-around game or with his offense. He's been stagnating since he went to the OHL.
Currently, OO is listed on the Colorado Eagles roster. How is the "OHL" coming into the conversation???
 

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The Red Wings drafted incredibly well for a long time, and they got an unprecedented playoff appearance streak because of it. Getting core players like Datsyuk and Zetterberg out of late round picks basically gave them an immediate second window after the Yzerman era was over.

I think our ship has sailed on that front. For one, it's way harder to find superstars in the 7th round now just in general. And even if we did manage to turn Christian Humphries and Maros Jedlicka into 100 point players the salary cap would probably still tear the team apart in a few years anyway.

What goes up must come down in the modern NHL, I don't think better drafting would really be making a huge difference for the window unless we had managed to draft a franchise goalie somewhere between 2012 and 2019 who could hold the net down right now. The difference that Shesterkin, Sorokin, Dostal, or Wolf would be making on this team right now is pretty obvious. Other than that though, the only thing better drafting would be doing is reinforcing the bottom six forwards and bottom 3 D, while complicating our cap situation even more.
Drafting well means you get players on ELCs for 2-3 years and then can bridge them for 2-3 years after that rather than trading assets for a 4M Ross Colton or signing a UFA Miles Wood for 2.5M.

Every dolllar matters, and players on ELCs and bridge deals in prominent roles goes a long way towards extending windows.
 

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