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Confirmed Signing with Link: [COL] G Mackenzie Blackwood signs extension with the Avalanche (5 years, $5.25M AAV)
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Empoleon8771
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He gave them 4 good games so they're paying him already 
Considering Blackwood has a -29.5 GSAA in the 4 years before this year (82 games with NJ and 44 games with San Jose), I'm not exactly sure why Colorado is rushing to give him an extension. Unless he's coming in cheap I don't see why they don't just wait until March or so, when he'll have a larger sample size of games.
This reminds me of when the Oilers gave Koskinen a decent sized deal because he was good for them for half a season, and he proceeded to be terrible for the majority of that deal.
Considering Blackwood has a -29.5 GSAA in the 4 years before this year (82 games with NJ and 44 games with San Jose), I'm not exactly sure why Colorado is rushing to give him an extension. Unless he's coming in cheap I don't see why they don't just wait until March or so, when he'll have a larger sample size of games.
This reminds me of when the Oilers gave Koskinen a decent sized deal because he was good for them for half a season, and he proceeded to be terrible for the majority of that deal.
He's 100% the best goalie we've had since Varlamov.
Good move to get this done early. Wait longer and his value will almost certainly have gone up.
Good move to get this done early. Wait longer and his value will almost certainly have gone up.
Blackhawkswincup
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You cant be serious? Keumper was pretty damn good for your Avs
It's been 4 games, rushing to extend him is pretty dumb IMO
SomeDude
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That’s like ordering 2nds at Arby’s because your last 3 meals came from a dumpster.
It’s better, but there is certainly room for improvement.
Poppy Whoa Sonnet
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Need to see the term before I say this is dumb. Blackwood has injury/consistency issues but is NHL caliber when he's on.
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The Avs don’t treat goaltenders like other teams do. They see it like running backs in the NFL. Often interchangeable. The AVS aren’t getting any of the top legitimate goalies, and all the rest are all over the place in terms of quality from year to year.
The UFAs to be are nothing specialx and they just spent assets getting Blackwood. 4 games is actually pretty long for the Avs.
Both grubauer and Georgiev were signed immediately.
The AVS simply want acceptable goaltending. If they think the guy they have can give it to them, and the contract is within their range, they will accept the player.
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What? They literally just acquired both Blackwood and Wedgewood. Why on earth would they then go out and rotate out Wedgewood AGAIN after just acquiring him? He only has 1.5 years left on his deal.
He gave them 4 good games so they're paying him already
Considering Blackwood has a -29.5 GSAA in the 4 years before this year (82 games with NJ and 44 games with San Jose), I'm not exactly sure why Colorado is rushing to give him an extension. Unless he's coming in cheap I don't see why they don't just wait until March or so, when he'll have a larger sample size of games.
This reminds me of when the Oilers gave Koskinen a decent sized deal because he was good for them for half a season, and he proceeded to be terrible for the majority of that deal.
There's no safe option for a goaltender at our price range. You have to take a risk. It's a gamble but at least we saw the product first. It's still better this way than randomly signing guy in summer.
Kuemper is interesting topic or sensitive topic. We don't have very good memories of him because his terrible playoff performance.
He was the biggest reason we could have lost that year the Cup. The team was brilliant, just dominant. He was the weakest link by far. Of course he had an injury and all, but still terrifies me to think about him trying to make a save in the playoffs.
Before the injury he was good
Shane Diesel
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Kuemper's one year in Denver resulted in him finishing 5th in GSAx and 5th in SV%.
Varlamov's best season was in 2014 when he finished 2nd in GSAx and 6th in SV%.
In Kuemper's one season he was marginally less impactful than Varlamov's best season during his entire tenure. It amazes me how little Avs fans know about their own team, but at the same time claim they're all experts. It's pretty funny.
There were tons of Avs fans saying they trusted Georgiev more than Kuemper after the Cup year. They're nuts.
Compare defense front of them. Not close.
CaleMakaw
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He was stellar in the regular season. Then injured his eye in the playoffs and was pretty rough. Recency bias also plays a factor.
Shane Diesel
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That's why I presented the GSAx numbers. You have a point with SV% only.
Probably should wait to see what the contract is.
I mean the Avs are damned if they do and damned if they don't, according to most here. They trade a bunch of stuff for Blackwood, who had been excellent in San Jose, he continues to show excellent signs in Denver.
He's going to be an UFA in the spring, what should the Avs do?
"Wait and see how good he is the rest of the year" - the price goes WAY up.
"Let him walk into free agency" - after identifying him as the guy you wanted and giving stuff up for him?
I'd wager they feel comfortable that they can get a better price on an extension now than in March or April. If they like the guy (they clearly do) - what is the point in waiting?
I swear this forum and goalies...you can't win. Every extension for every goalie ever is crappy unless it is Hellebuyck - and then that's crappy when he inevitably melts down in the playoffs.
I mean the Avs are damned if they do and damned if they don't, according to most here. They trade a bunch of stuff for Blackwood, who had been excellent in San Jose, he continues to show excellent signs in Denver.
He's going to be an UFA in the spring, what should the Avs do?
"Wait and see how good he is the rest of the year" - the price goes WAY up.
"Let him walk into free agency" - after identifying him as the guy you wanted and giving stuff up for him?
I'd wager they feel comfortable that they can get a better price on an extension now than in March or April. If they like the guy (they clearly do) - what is the point in waiting?
I swear this forum and goalies...you can't win. Every extension for every goalie ever is crappy unless it is Hellebuyck - and then that's crappy when he inevitably melts down in the playoffs.
Yeah saw those games. Comparing the best Varly season to Kuemper with Colorado is stupid.
As a Devils fan this doesn’t surprise me that much, he had some pretty amazing stretches with us. He was arguably the best goalie in the NHL for like, months at a time.
That said the meltdown at the end was extraordinarily ugly. I’m talking regularly whiffing on routine saves.
It will be interesting to see what happens, he would be far from the first goalie to find consistency in his late 20s / early 30s. Such a weird position.
That said the meltdown at the end was extraordinarily ugly. I’m talking regularly whiffing on routine saves.
It will be interesting to see what happens, he would be far from the first goalie to find consistency in his late 20s / early 30s. Such a weird position.
Shane Diesel
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Ah, so you're more insightful than the stats like everyone else on HF.
What's your background in goaltending and why should I trust your opinion?
I've likely been watching the Avs just as long as you.
frightenedinmatenum2
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I doubt they are extending him because he had a few good games.
Look at how difficult it is to get a goalie. They likely intended to extend him the entire time. There simply aren't enough NHL goalies available.
Look at how difficult it is to get a goalie. They likely intended to extend him the entire time. There simply aren't enough NHL goalies available.
TheKrebsCycle
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What’s the hurry ? Guy has been waiver fodder for the last few years . Talent sure
Malkinstheman
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Doesnt make sense to rush into paying a goalie in this league. Most of these guys become potatoes after 1 good year.
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