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Confirmed with Link: Avs acquire Casey Mittelstadt for Bo Byram

a mangy Meowth said:
Mittelstadt was Buffalo's leading scorer despite 2way deployment. How is that a 3C?

Meanwhile, I can totally concede that Byram is capable of playing high event top pairing minutes on a bad team. Just because he's playing there in Buffalo doesn't mean he's already playing at the level of a "top pairing cailber" defender with any regularity though. Let's be clear that those are two distinctly different things.
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BKarchitect said:
Guy was also Buffalo’s #1 forward by almost a minute in even strength ice time per game. Almost a minute more than Alex Tuch at #2. Well over a minute more than Tage and over two minutes more than Cozens.

That’s not only not third line deployment, that’s top line deployment. Now talent-wise he's probably perceptively behind Tage and Cozens and one could definitely argue in the perfect Sabres world that never existed this season, he should've been #3 in terms of center depth but Tage and Cozens have been wildly inconsistent and ineffective at various points in the season and clearly, Sabres brass gravitated towards the consistent two-way effort of Mitts.
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Just want to back up this response. Mittelstadt has been on a steady upward trajectory for two seasons now. He was only considered a "3C" because of Thompson and Cozens having good stats last season while they 1) played pond hockey and 2) played with the best four wingers while Mittelstadt played mostly with Asplund and Olofsson, or sometimes Jost. This season Mitts played with Greenway and Benson mostly, and still led the team in pts while still playing the best two-way game of the FW group.

I'm not going to guess at who won this trade, but many fans think Buffalo had the C depth to afford trading Mitts. They really don't. Thompson and Cozens are flawed Cs trying too much thinking they are or should be 80+ pt players based on inflated numbers from last season. They have been possession holes while Mitts has been responsible, intelligent, and dogged on the puck. I don't know if the front office had to be cheap about his next contract or they just don't realize he's the best of the three, but they made a mistake in trading him. Savoie and Kulich do NOT project as NHL Cs, so that leaves Ostlund who is at least 3-4 years away from reaching his potential, if he even gets there. I'm sure Byram will be a fine/great player, but the Sabres C depth will not survive the hole left in Mitts' absence unless Kevyn Adams makes a very big move. Avs fans will be very happy with Mittelstadt, and I will remain in the dark abyss of being a Sabres fan.
 
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Sabresfansince1980 said:
Just want to back up this response. Mittelstadt has been on a steady upward trajectory for two seasons now. He was only considered a "3C" because of Thompson and Cozens having good stats last season while they 1) played pond hockey and 2) played with the best four wingers while Mittelstadt played mostly with Asplund and Olofsson, or sometimes Jost. This season Mitts played with Greenway and Benson mostly, and still led the team in pts while still playing the best two-way game of the FW group.

I'm not going to guess at who won this trade, but many fans think Buffalo had the C depth to afford trading Mitts. They really don't. Thompson and Cozens are flawed Cs trying too much thinking they are or should be 80+ pt players based on inflated numbers from last season. They have been possession holes while Mitts has been responsible, intelligent, and dogged on the puck. I don't know if the front office had to be cheap about his next contract or they just don't realize he's the best of the three, but they made a mistake in trading him. Savoie and Kulich do NOT project as NHL Cs, so that leaves Ostlund who is at least 3-4 years away from reaching his potential, if he even gets there. I'm sure Byram will be a fine/great player, but the Sabres C depth will not survive the hole left in Mitts' absence unless Kevyn Adams makes a very big move. Avs fans will be very happy with Mittelstadt, and I will remain in the dark abyss of being a Sabres fan.
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GeoRox89 said:
What order do you say the date in? That’s why it’s like that. September 9th sounds better than the 9th of September (I have no idea why that’s the date I just picked)
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9 September 2024
If spoken, yeah September the 9th.
But if we're talking all numbers, go DAY/MONTH/YEAR because that just makes logical sense.
 
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MarkT said:
9 September 2024
If spoken, yeah September the 9th.
But if we're talking all numbers, go DAY/MONTH/YEAR because that just make logical sense.
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I can see the logic to it but still find it unintuitive to write it differently than the way it’s said. It’s a lot simpler to read 04/01 as April 1 without having to think twice about it than 01/04
 
GeoRox89 said:
I can see the logic to it but still find it unintuitive to write it differently than the way it’s said. It’s a lot simpler to read 04/01 as April 1 without having to think twice about it than 01/04
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You could also say the first of April, which many people do. I was raised on the idiotic Month/Day/Year, so I still say April 1st, but in writing I've been converted to the correct way.
 
SirLoinOfCloth said:
Some Canadians may have succumbed to the dumbness, but I am pretty sure that MM/DD/YYYY is not the official date format there.

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Government documents may use the other one but at least in BC you’ll never see anything but MM/DD/YY and 2020 was the only year you’d see people write the date with all 4 digits. Had a coworker once who caused all sorts of calamity writing it as DD/MM. A whole pile of tests got missed and done late when he wrote 07/06 and everyone else interpreted that as July 6 not June 7. Have never had that problem with the ones who came from other provinces

Edit: They have to actually specify the format they want the date in on forms or cheques (usually in light print that you write over) to get people to write it day first because it just does not happen otherwise. When cheques first changed, I had older relatives who just ignored what it said and used letters for the month because no one reads it day/month instead of month/day
 
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I gotta admit I liked this trade when it happened but I'm absolutely loving it now.

I realize it's an extremely small sample size still, but I was not expecting the level of hustle and defensive play I'm seeing from Mittelstadt. I seem to remember people saying he was a poor defensive play when he started in the league--wouldn't know that the way he plays now. He's also making so many smart plays--I was not expecting the level of hockey IQ I'm seeing from him either.

Can't wait until we see him on the top power play unit. You know it's happening eventually.
 
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SirLoinOfCloth said:
America is so broken when it comes to dates.

MM/DD/YYYY is dumb as f***, and literally no other nation does that.

And starting weeks on Sunday? DAFUQ is that bullshit.
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Okay, I mean this is as off topic as it gets, but writing it MM/DD/YYYY is the only one that makes sense because that's how you say it. Today is March 22nd. Therefore we write it... 3/22. March 22, 3/22.

On topic, this trade feels a lot more even than I originally was expecting (assuming Byram doesn't get his bell rung at any point going forward). That said, Buffalo still made a mistake with this move as the teams needs a lot more of what Mitts brings to the table and I don't think it'll be as easy to replace as they think it will be. Of course on top of that, Buffalo doesn't get any benefit of the doubt with any move they make until they start having a modicum of success again.
 
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Date format is based on how it's spoken.

In the US and Canada it's generally said month then day, like March 22nd.

In Europe and Latin American it's often spoken as day then month.
 
Strexvale said:
Okay, I mean this is as off topic as it gets, but writing it MM/DD/YYYY is the only one that makes sense because that's how you say it. Today is March 22nd. Therefore we write it... 3/22. March 22, 3/22.
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The vast majority of the rest of the world disagrees. 22nd of March is a completely legitimate way of saying it, too. And the day is more important in the sense it changes more often, you're more likely to know the month and year you're in, so the day is more timely information. Going from more granular -> less granular makes sense in that regard.
 
Month first. March 22nd. That’s the way.

One of the few things those miles and Fahrenheit mf’ers have correct. 😎
 
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SirLoinOfCloth said:
Some Canadians may have succumbed to the dumbness, but I am pretty sure that MM/DD/YYYY is not the official date format there.

Date and time notation in Canada - Wikipedia

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I was starting to feel like a crazy person. I have only ever seen YYYY-MM-DD used in my field of work.

GeoRox89 said:
Government documents may use the other one but at least in BC you’ll never see anything but MM/DD/YY and 2020 was the only year you’d see people write the date with all 4 digits. Had a coworker once who caused all sorts of calamity writing it as DD/MM. A whole pile of tests got missed and done late when he wrote 07/06 and everyone else interpreted that as July 6 not June 7. Have never had that problem with the ones who came from other provinces

Edit: They have to actually specify the format they want the date in on forms or cheques (usually in light print that you write over) to get people to write it day first because it just does not happen otherwise. When cheques first changed, I had older relatives who just ignored what it said and used letters for the month because no one reads it day/month instead of month/day
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This is incredibly inaccurate lol.


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And to weigh in on the logic behind which one is best, YYYY-MM-DD is the ISO standard because it is the only one that allows files to self-sort chronologically.
 
Barklez said:
I was starting to feel like a crazy person. I have only ever seen YYYY-MM-DD used in my field of work.



This is incredibly inaccurate lol.


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And to weigh in on the logic behind which one is best, YYYY-MM-DD is the ISO standard because it is the only one that allows files to self-sort chronologically.
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I live in BC too and it's by far the most common way to do it.
 
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