Avs acquire C Brock Nelson (50% retained) + F William Dufour for F Cal Ritchie + D Oliver Kylington + 2026 1st + Cond. 2028 3rd

Yep, a RD that can play top 4 minutes is as hard to find as a 2C.

It would be so perfect to have Helleson in the depth chart right now.

Anaheim are pretty loaded with young Dmen (as shown below), but unfortunately most of them are left handed shots so Helleson probably still fits into their plans going forward. If he's available though he'd make a tonne of sense for the Avs. He's an RFA this summer at least so there's a possibility that he shakes loose if Anaheim don't like what he's asking for.

Zellwegger - Trouba (2yrs to UFA)
Mintyukov - Gudas (2yrs to UFA)
LaCombe - Luneau
Dionicio - Helleson
Solberg - Moore
 
Jeez, we gave Casey Mittelstadt a year before deciding he couldn't play. Now we're wringing our hands over Nelson after 5 games after a career with the NYI?

Tough crowd . . .
Big difference, he hit the ground running for the Avs as soon as he arrived. He even started out THIS season great...and then fell off a cliff after the first month.

Nelson has done the opposite. So...maybe he'll turn it on soon. Nothing we can do but watch and hope he does.
 
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Manson was awful when he first came over, then picked it up in the PO's. I would say Nelson just doesn't look like a fit. Hope he picks it up, but right now he's looking like a potato on this team. If this carries into the PO's let him walk.
 
Big difference, he hit the ground running for the Avs as soon as he arrived. He even started out THIS season great...and then fell off a cliff after the first month.

Nelson has done the opposite. So...maybe he'll turn it on soon. Nothing we can do but watch and hope he does.
I maybe not remembering well, but I thought Mitts looked really rough the first few weeks he was here before turning around the last week or so of the regular season and the playoffs.
 
He's just not a tenacious type of guy so if that's how he's losing them I wouldn't expect that to change.
Is he weak on his stick?

Last night he drove me insane in the 3rd period. Two faceoffs in a row the Avs won in their own zone, rimmed pucks around the boards to him and he missed the puck entirely both times resulting in icings. Then the third time they did it, he just BARELY got a blade on the puck but it resulted in a turnover.

I don't know that I've seen something like that happen from an NHLer before three straight faceoffs.
 
I maybe not remembering well, but I thought Mitts looked really rough the first few weeks he was here before turning around the last week or so of the regular season and the playoffs.

Mittelstadt in his first 10 games with the Avs had 4 goals + 3 assists. The Avs went 8-1-1 in that stretch.

In his next 8 games until the end of the season he had 0 goals + 3 assists. The Avs went 3-4-1 in that stretch.

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Is he weak on his stick?

Last night he drove me insane in the 3rd period. Two faceoffs in a row the Avs won in their own zone, rimmed pucks around the boards to him and he missed the puck entirely both times resulting in icings. Then the third time they did it, he just BARELY got a blade on the puck but it resulted in a turnover.

I don't know that I've seen something like that happen from an NHLer before three straight faceoffs.

I don't ever seem to recall that being much of an issue.

He's susceptible to getting his pocket picked from time to time and one could argue he's weak in board battles at times, but just controlling the puck off the wall isn't really a thing.

If he's not even good at this what the absolute f*** is he good at!?!? I just don't get it at all, does he just float around until someone feeds him the puck!?

He's a more methodical player who doesn't really waste movements. If you watch his highlights you'll see that even when he's scoring or creating offense he's not doing it by using any fancy dekes, blowing by guys, or being too complicated. He almost always slows the play down and is in control while making decisions. He's smooth and deliberate. Sometimes that looks like lack of effort and rubs fans the wrong way, and that's completely understandable because there are times you'd like to see a bit more.

I wouldn't say he floats around because that implies some aimlessness but he definitely glides around at times looking for holes, especially on the rush. You definitely want him being fed the puck in transition vs him trying to take one-timers while you're already established in the zone. His accuracy when shooting in transition is very good and can place his shots nicely, even if it's a 1 on 1 and he has a defender in front of him.

Defensively I think he is pretty sneaky at times, creating turnovers on the backcheck with a nicely time stick lift but he's never going to outmuscle guys or be overly physical. He'll be in the right lanes most of the time and just contain.

If you watch all of his goals from last season you'll see that he's generally looking for soft spots to take a wrist shot, and he's best when in transition and someone gets him the puck.

 
I don't ever seem to recall that being much of an issue.

He's susceptible to getting his pocket picked from time to time and one could argue he's weak in board battles at times, but just controlling the puck off the wall isn't really a thing.

He's a more methodical player who doesn't really waste movements. If you watch his highlights you'll see that even when he's scoring or creating offense he's not doing it by using any fancy dekes, blowing by guys, or being too complicated. He almost always slows the play down and is in control while making decisions. He's smooth and deliberate. Sometimes that looks like lack of effort and rubs fans the wrong way, and that's completely understandable because there are times you'd like to see a bit more.

I wouldn't say he floats around because that implies some aimlessness but he definitely glides around at times looking for holes, especially on the rush. You definitely want him being fed the puck in transition vs him trying to take one-timers while you're already established in the zone. His accuracy when shooting in transition is very good and can place his shots nicely, even if it's a 1 on 1 and he has a defender in front of him.

Defensively I think he is pretty sneaky at times, creating turnovers on the backcheck with a nicely time stick lift but he's never going to outmuscle guys or be overly physical. He'll be in the right lanes most of the time and just contain.

If you watch all of his goals from last season you'll see that he's generally looking for soft spots to take a wrist shot, and he's best when in transition and someone gets him the puck.


Oh no...if there's one thing the Avs ain't, it's slow. At least it's not how their system works.

That would explain why Bednar is trying him on the wing, he needs to take more shots, which he is definitely NOT doing right now.

A shoot-first guy like this should be a good fit with Nichushkin, who's elite at puck retrievals when he's on his game, and a playmaking winger like Drouin, except Drouin--with the exception of a couple games here and there--has looked terrible since the end of the Four Nations break. He's been hurt all year but the hope was that he'd be healed up a bit after a rest. That hasn't been the case.

I wasn't expecting a guy to carry his own line, but he's just not doing anything at present. He's gotta do more than what we've seen. Even if he's not your prototypical scoring line center he's gotta do more to adjust to the Avs' way of doing things.
 
Nelson has no shots in 3/6 games with the Avs. He had no shots in only 3/61 games with the Islanders this year. He's still trying to find his game and adjust to a new team, I'm not panicking yet.
 
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Oh no...if there's one thing the Avs ain't, it's slow. At least it's not how their system works.

That would explain why Bednar is trying him on the wing, he needs to take more shots, which he is definitely NOT doing right now.

A shoot-first guy like this should be a good fit with Nichushkin, who's elite at puck retrievals when he's on his game, and a playmaking winger like Drouin, except Drouin--with the exception of a couple games here and there--has looked terrible since the end of the Four Nations break. He's been hurt all year but the hope was that he'd be healed up a bit after a rest. That hasn't been the case.

I wasn't expecting a guy to carry his own line, but he's just not doing anything at present. He's gotta do more than what we've seen. Even if he's not your prototypical scoring line center he's gotta do more to adjust to the Avs' way of doing things.

He definitely benefits from someone who can retrieve the puck and find him in open space so that might be a nice fit. I do wonder if he's still deferring more than he would on the Island just because he's the new guy. He's not a guy that grabs the bull by the horns and takes over so if he were doing that it wouldn't be unexpected.
 
13 games left to go before playoffs. Not only Bednar has to get Nelson going, but the Avs need to see what they have in Nelson, if they gonna try to re-sign him, or he’s just another waste of assets and failed attempt to fix the 2C.

You don’t wanna go into playoffs with Nelson still struggling and be hopeful that he will suddenly flip the switch and start producing. Gotta get him going now and I completely understand why Bednar is trying everything, including putting him on the wing with Nate. Some of you disagreed with that move but you shouldn’t.

This is why moves like this where you trade for a player like Nelson is better to be done in the offseason so he has more time to adjust to a new team and stuff
 
That's Valeri Nichushkin. The dude is a puck hound and a monster on the forecheck.

Nelson has played six games in Colorado. People need to chill, if 2Cs produced all the time they'd be 1Cs.
Again, he still needs to do OTHER things to contribute, and not just turn the puck over and lose puck battles. It's early yet but even you can agree you can't score if you don't shoot.
 
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So Bennett is next after Nelson fails?
No. The Avs don't sign UFA's on July 1st other than their own. The last one they did was Donskoi $3.9m x 4.

If Nelson walks it'll most likely be Coyle at 2C next season, and the money Nelson would have gotten will get spent on Lindgren/Drouin/Kiviranta/Malinski.
 
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