I enjoyed it. Saw it in the48 frame 3D. Visually very good.
I thought it was a half hour too long though. At least.
I thought it was a half hour too long though. At least.
Movies: Avatar: The Way of Water
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I've read that the movie's action scenes are in 48 frames per second and slower scenes with dialogue are in the standard 24 frames per second. 48fps is beneficial when viewing in 3D in order to reduce blur during motion, but can look unnatural in slower scenes, so Cameron alternated to try to get the best of both worlds.
I hated it. I understand that it might not work in 3D without it but it was so distracting.
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's okay, I guess. I did have two nitpicks:
So the whale was banished because he led his pod of whales and some group of Na'vi against the whalers who killed his mother, and got them all killed. And the movie seems to say that this isn't a misunderstanding on the part of the water people, but rather that according to the water people way of thinking it's no different than if he had killed them himself for leading them on a fruitless quest for revenge. Or at least younger brother explaining that to the water people wouldn't make a difference.
Okay.
Then in the next scene the whalers kill Chieftess' whale friend, and now the water people all want to attack the whalers? Huh? Weren't you just pacifists like 10 minutes ago?
I also thought it was excessive that Chief's sons actively tried to kill younger brother via leading him into shark territory and then calling the shark. Leading him out into the deep to prank him and then abandoning him in a panic when the shark shows up works better if the goal is to end with them as friends.
So the whale was banished because he led his pod of whales and some group of Na'vi against the whalers who killed his mother, and got them all killed. And the movie seems to say that this isn't a misunderstanding on the part of the water people, but rather that according to the water people way of thinking it's no different than if he had killed them himself for leading them on a fruitless quest for revenge. Or at least younger brother explaining that to the water people wouldn't make a difference.
Okay.
Then in the next scene the whalers kill Chieftess' whale friend, and now the water people all want to attack the whalers? Huh? Weren't you just pacifists like 10 minutes ago?
I also thought it was excessive that Chief's sons actively tried to kill younger brother via leading him into shark territory and then calling the shark. Leading him out into the deep to prank him and then abandoning him in a panic when the shark shows up works better if the goal is to end with them as friends.
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A great deal of the praise that Top Gun: Maverick got was because of the practical filmmaking and stunt work (ex. real fighter planes and actors in them, experiencing real Gs). There's very little in that movie that's CGI, very much in contrast to Avatar: The Way of Water.
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Kind of brings up the topic though, how would you do Avatar with practical effects? Sure Hollywood overuses CGI and practical effects will beat it out, Top Gun being a great case in point. But "practical" has to be something actually feasible, either physically or financially, and to create something truly alien Avatar is a great example for the need of CGI.
I actually liked it, the visuals alone made the trek to the 3D theater worth it. The commentary on our need for commercialism above all else at times was on point, including the conflict of science as research depends on funding but often turns a blind eye to the source of the funding. The revenge plot, the importance of family where also important themes for sure.
Watching a movie like this just reinforces my feelings that we need to do more to protect our world and the environment we live in.
Watching a movie like this just reinforces my feelings that we need to do more to protect our world and the environment we live in.
As mentioned you have to be making a film than lends itself to practical effects such as Top Gun or Mad Max Fury road (one of my favorite ones in that regards). A movie like Avatar that is on a visually rich alien world would be almost impossible to do.
Not exactly, or not how I interpreted it.
His family, pod, was attacked by the whalers and after the death he immediately rallied young whales to defend themselves getting more of them killed in the process. To the tulkun even though he did not kill the tulkun himself, he bares the blame/shame because he led them to attack going against their core belief of no violence and especially no killing as killing just brings more of the same. So not the Metkayina thinking but the Tulkun way of thinking.
So the pacifist are the tulkun who may look like large whales but are likely more intelligent than humans in general. They compose music and poetry and have philosophy etc. As the biologist on the whaling ship explains, they have more neurons and larger brains along with a larger area in the brain for emotions than humans do.
The chielf's son did not lead him there to be attacked by nalutsa, they just were playing a prank leading him there so he would have to find his own way home somehow. The nalustsa attack was an unexpected accident. They never called the nalusta in that I remember. They were long gone before it even showed up.
Yes, that's why Avatar doesn't deserve the praise that Maverick got and vice versa. They're very different movies.
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Then why do the Metkayina care that the whale is an outcast? When it's learned that Sully the younger is hanging out with the outcast whale, the Metkayina are horrified. And when Sully the younger offers to go explain the situation to the Chief, he's told that it wouldn't matter.
One of them signals, "call the fish" before they abandon Sully the younger.
Well they have an extremely close relationship with the tulkun and consider them siblings and each has a spirit brother or sister among the pod. If a tulkun breaks the Tulkun Way of non killing which was established long ago because they were a violent species that constantly killed each other, they are made an outcast by the tulkun and by extension the Na'vi. I don't know how better to explain it. Even thogh the Na'vi have no such rule of no killing even in self-defence like the Tulkun, they respect their spirit siblings decisions on outcasts.
Only thing I remember is them calling back their "rides" aka the ilu they came on, to get home. Maybe I am interpreting it wrong.
Saw it on IMAX 3D. Worth every penny. Cameron delivers on the visuals which was all that really mattered to me. Yes, the plot is nothing to write home about, but it's sufficiently adequate enough to let Cameron knit all the big, technical set-pieces together. The kind of work that sort of defies the notion of criticism.
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This movie has grossed nearly $2B and I still haven't spoken to a single person who has seen it. I'm going to chalk that up to me being a parent of young children and my friends are as well, and parents with youngins are exactly the crowd that can't make time to get out to a 3 hour movie around Christmas.
When I went I saw a few families with kids in around 10 or a few years younger but not sure how many kid could make it 3+hrs without getting fed up or falling asleep lol
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How much are the 3D/4D IMAX tickets compared to standard tickets? I wonder if that’s playing a role too
Here the 3D tickets are about $3 more and the closest theater to me had 2 screens for it 1 all 3D showing the other had a couple of 2D and rest 3D.
Not sure how much IMAX is these days.
IMAX Crowns "Avatar: The Way of Water" as its Highest Grossing Film of 2022, With $160 Million and Counting
IMAX Crowns "Avatar: The Way of Water" as its Highest Grossing Film of 2022, With $160 Million and Counting
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And new animated movies and series but those are way down the line.
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Dude has 3 of the top 7 grossing movies of all time, he can make a blockbuster that is for sure. He is second only to Spielberg all time for box office take as a director and that's with a fraction of the directing credits of Spielberg.
I saw it last week and thought that it was a bit boring and stupid. The plot didn't make sense and seemed self indulgent on Cameron's part, even more so than the first movie. The characters weren't interesting, "Spider" was particularly bad and the dialogue was weak (what was with them saying "bro" all of the time?). The visuals were very good and made it watchable, though the underwater scenes weren't as impressive as I expected after all of the hype. I got an experience out of it, but it's not one that I need to have again.
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Just got to seeing it today and I liked it. Didn't realize it's now the third highest grossing movie of all time, no one thought it come near 2 billion when I asked that question on the first page 
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