GDT: Avalanche @ Jets Thursday 11/07/24 @6:00PM MNT (Emergency GDT) Ground Control to Major Moose

[Metallo]

Does Mikko even deserve a raise?

 

[Arto Kilponen]

That's not a percentage lol. The only team in history to do that is not the gotcha you think it is.

Was last season Oilers above the line?

 

[dahrougem2]

Shot Attempts 70-54 Avs
Shots on Goal 34-28 Avs
Scoring Chances 39-22 Avs
High Danger Chances 12-6 Avs

Yeah, safe to say the Avs deserved a better fate tonight. Sometimes an elite goalie does that to you.

 

[Muffin]

Was last season Oilers above the line?

So fire Bednar is what you're saying?

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Really good game, happy how we played.

Onto the next one.

 

[Pokecheque]

Maybe it’s just me but I’m not giving the Avs as much credit as everyone else. Yeah I know, the lineup is depleted and that’s the best team in the league at present.

But they made it too easy on Hellebuyck. Too much high/low perimeter shots, not enough traffic in the net front area, not NEARLY enough generated below the hashmarks. Also, fanned shot after fanned shot after fanned shot. Gotta breathe and quit playing so tight.

Second line was abysmal. Only trio that was below the Mendoza Line. Mittelstadt struggled to create space and his wingers couldn’t do shit with the puck. And LOC is looking AWFUL out there. They need to demote him and try Kovalenko with Mitts again. Or try SOMETHING. So I wasn’t happy with his coaching effort tonight.

That said, Georgiev was mostly good, can’t complain. The 2-on-1 created by a dumb Manson pinch and Sammy totally misplaying it wasn’t really on him. Can’t recall anything I didn’t like from him to be honest.

 

[Arto Kilponen]

So fire Bednar is what you're saying?

I don't think that's the solution yet.

 

[dahrougem2]

Maybe it’s just me but I’m not giving the Avs as much credit as everyone else. Yeah I know, the lineup is depleted and that’s the best team in the league at present.

But they made it too easy on Hellebuyck. Too much high/low perimeter shots, not enough traffic in the net front area, not NEARLY enough generated below the hashmarks. Also, fanned shot after fanned shot after fanned shot. Gotta breathe and quit playing so tight.

Second line was abysmal. Only trio that was below the Mendoza Line. Mittelstadt struggled to create space and his wingers couldn’t do shit with the puck. And LOC is looking AWFUL out there. They need to demote him and try Kovalenko with Mitts again. Or try SOMETHING. So I wasn’t happy with his coaching effort tonight.

That said, Georgiev was mostly good, can’t complain. The 2-on-1 created by a dumb Manson pinch and Sammy totally misplaying it wasn’t really on him. Can’t recall anything I didn’t like from him to be honest.

I'm not sure what you're expecting out of a lineup that used T.J. Tynan as its extra attacker tonight. The Avs held Winnipeg to 6 high danger chances and 22 scoring chances overall while generating 12 and 39, respectively.

Sometimes a goalie dominates and Hellebuyck did that tonight.

 

[The Moops]

Really good game, happy how we played.

Onto the next one.

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Yeah can't really fault anyone here. Helly had a hellova game. What can you do?

 

[Muffin]

Can't wait for Drouin and Nuke to come back

 

[expatriatedtexan]

I'm not sure what you're expecting out of a lineup that used T.J. Tynan as its extra attacker tonight. The Avs held Winnipeg to 6 high danger chances and 22 scoring chances overall while generating 12 and 39, respectively.

Sometimes a goalie dominates and Hellebuyck did that tonight.

Goalies truely are the Avs kryptonite. Their goalie, our goalie... makes no difference. One of them is going to kill us.

 

[lionsDen]

I was happy with fight disappointed with the result

 

[S E P H]

Nothing can be funnier than Georgiev playing amazing and still somehow losing the game.

 

[Pokecheque]

I'm not sure what you're expecting out of a lineup that used T.J. Tynan as its extra attacker tonight. The Avs held Winnipeg to 6 high danger chances and 22 scoring chances overall while generating 12 and 39, respectively.

Sometimes a goalie dominates and Hellebuyck did that tonight.

Yeah, just would’ve liked more adjustments (yes, I know) in terms of strategy and execution. Like, if O’Connor is struggling to even keep the puck on his stick, maybe bump him down and put Kovalenko back with Mitts. Would it have made a huge difference? Unlikely. But try SOMETHING else.

Oh well, shouldn’t complain all that much. We were all expecting a blowout.

 

[S E P H]

What percentage of teams that are out of the playoffs by thanksgiving make the playoffs again?

I know where you are going with this, but to be fair, a healthy Avs team will definitely make the playoffs regardless of where they are in the standings by American Thanksgiving.

 

[Balthazar]

LOC is looking AWFUL out there.

LOC is a 4th liner who can look good enough at times to play on the 3rd line (only temporarily). He shouldn't be anywhere near a top 6.

 

[S E P H]

I don't want to unfairly target Rantanen again, but am I the only one who thinks he is such a dumb hockey player considering his talent level?

 

[Balthazar]

I don't want to unfairly target Rantanen again, but am I the only one who thinks he is such a dumb hockey player considering his talent level?

He's always been like that. I read almost all the GDT on this board and I swear in 90% of them we have random different people talking about how shitty he looks. That's 9 games out of 10.

 

[Pokecheque]

LOC is a 4th liner who can look good enough at times to play on the 3rd line (only temporarily). He shouldn't be anywhere near a top 6.

Something else is going on though. The speed that defines is game is nowhere to be found. He had hip surgery so that’s not surprising, just hope it’s something that won’t require all year for him to work through (a lot of hip issues seem to take a lot of time IIRC).

I certainly don’t expect him to be a 2nd liner but he doesn’t look himself at all yet.

 

[Muffin]

I know where you are going with this, but to be fair, a healthy Avs team will definitely make the playoffs regardless of where they are in the standings by American Thanksgiving.

Brave of you to think there's such thing as a healthy Avs team...

 

[Balthazar]

Something else is going on though. The speed that defines is game is nowhere to be found. He had hip surgery so that’s not surprising, just hope it’s something that won’t require all year for him to work through (a lot of hip issues seem to take a lot of time IIRC).

I certainly don’t expect him to be a 2nd liner but he doesn’t look himself at all yet.

But CMac was in a big hurry to re-up him for 6 years before even knowing how was his play post-surgery so he's fine. The GM would never make a mistake like that would he?

 

[jani]

They played over my expectations, but how hard is it to start a game in a decent way? I think they overplayed it a bit in the end with a 2-man advantage. 1(+3)giev looked like a real goalie, a life game even at his recent standards. The penalty on Lehky was ****shit, multiple similar plays during the game.

 

[henchman21]

Thought George was good. Avs were pretty meh… sure they piled the numbers on, but didn’t look all that dangerous. Neither did Winnipeg. Pretty ugly game really.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Something else is going on though. The speed that defines is game is nowhere to be found. He had hip surgery so that’s not surprising, just hope it’s something that won’t require all year for him to work through (a lot of hip issues seem to take a lot of time IIRC).

I certainly don’t expect him to be a 2nd liner but he doesn’t look himself at all yet.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's conditioning. Remember he was tried out/started the season a couple of times on the 3rd but then had to be shifted back to the 4th line as the season progressed. My brain is doing either the old man thing or the chemo thing and I can't remember for certain but 22-23 was the first season he played full time on the third wasn't it? Anyays, dude he had season ending surgery and probably didn't get a full summer of training and is now being asked to play 2nd line minutes...he's probably gassed. I would be, even if I was young and in any shape other than round.

Thought George was good. Avs were pretty meh… sure they piled the numbers on, but didn’t look all that dangerous. Neither did Winnipeg. Pretty ugly game really.

It's hard to look dangerous when Kivi and LOC are making up 2/3 of your 2nd line.

 

[henchman21]

I wouldn't be surprised if it's conditioning. Remember he was tried out/started the season a couple of times on the 3rd but then had to be shifted back to the 4th line as the season progressed. My brain is doing either the old man thing or the chemo thing and I can't remember for certain but 22-23 was the first season he played full time on the third wasn't it? Anyays, dude he had season ending surgery and probably didn't get a full summer of training and is now being asked to play 2nd line minutes...he's probably gassed. I would be, even if I was young and in any shape other than round.


It's hard to look dangerous when Kivi and LOC are making up 2/3 of your 2nd line.

I get the excuse, but even the top line wasn’t really dangerous. Avs are doggy paddling.