Tennis: Australian Open 2025

[kihei]

Sinner played very well, but that was a nothingburger of a match.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Sinner played very well, but that was a nothingburger of a match.

I'm done with Zverev, just can't do anything in big matches. Most mentally weak athlete I've ever seen

 

[kihei]

Sinner knows Zverev can't make an indent on his service games, hasn't gotten one break point at all which is allowing Sinner to play freer than he normally would imo

Zero break point opportunities allowed by Sinner for the entire match. Especially in the third set you could tell how relaxed Jannik was, not to mention how down-in-the-dumps Zverev looked. That was quite possibly the easiest GS final that Sinner will ever play.

 

[Novak Djokovic]

Congrats to Sinner, well played and definitely the best player in the world at the moment. He's going to win many more. Feel bad for Zverev somewhat (was never a fan though), guy probably deserves to win one - that USO loss to Thiem COVID is going to hurt him forever.

As an aside, Novak posted his MRI on Instagram. Got sucked into the idiots trolling him. Bruh, you got nothing to prove to people...

 

[hockey20000]

meh another win for the druggie sinner hopefully a suspension coming soon not a fan of him tbh

 

[otown]

Sinner has obviously come of age. The controversy surrounding doping is probably under more scrutiny than it has ever been in tennis. Everybody wants a clean game and if there are any hints of doping within the game, the players themselves will let the cat out of the bag.

 

[CupofOil]

As an Alcaraz fan, it pains me to say this but Sinner is the best player on the planet and it's not even close. I know Sinner went 0-3 against him last year but Alcaraz has been relative garbage since losing that Olympic final to Djokovic while Sinner is winning all the tournaments big and small.

Sinner is the undisputed King of Hard Courts and he's really close to conquering clay and grass too. I find him boring tbh, I like players with flair to their game and that express emotion on the court, but I can respect the dominance and the ruthlessly efficient and brutal pace on his ground strokes from both wings.

I guess we'll see what happens with the doping case as we'll get some clarity on this in the next few months, I sure as hell hope he comes out clean for the sake of the sport because what a stain on tennis if he is indeed suspended long term for doping.

 

[MsMeow]

Sinner played a very solid match. I love his game because he doesn’t grunt, doesn’t yell, doesn’t take forever between points and barely looks to his box. He can figure things out on his own. Quiet fist pumps are as loud as he gets. His balance on the court is amazing and his reach is excellent. I thought Alcaraz would be miles ahead of him at this point but I was dead wrong.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Well, there is that $217,820 fine that the German courts ruled Zverev had to pay to the state and charities.

Right, but that’s how a settlement works. You can’t just assume guilt because a settlement occurred. The case was dropped.

Domestic abuse cases are often not straight forward. This is not like an obvious murderer who there’s no real question of fact whether they murdered someone. I personally don’t think it’s right to assume guilt when there’s real questions about the outcome. And if the parties settle, that’s their business. I’m not going to hold this guy up as a domestic abuser for the rest of his life. Doesn’t mean I like him, but I also wouldn’t paint him with that stain.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

As an Alcaraz fan, it pains me to say this but Sinner is the best player on the planet and it's not even close. I know Sinner went 0-3 against him last year but Alcaraz has been relative garbage since losing that Olympic final to Djokovic while Sinner is winning all the tournaments big and small.

Sinner is the undisputed King of Hard Courts and he's really close to conquering clay and grass too. I find him boring tbh, I like players with flair to their game and that express emotion on the court, but I can respect the dominance and the ruthlessly efficient and brutal pace on his ground strokes from both wings.

I guess we'll see what happens with the doping case as we'll get some clarity on this in the next few months, I sure as hell hope he comes out clean for the sake of the sport because what a stain on tennis if he is indeed suspended long term for doping.

I think you’re looking too much about the micro and not the macro. Alcaraz still has won more slams than Sinner, and is younger. To me that’s all there is to it.

Is Sinner in slightly better form? Sure, but even keep in mind what you said that Alcaraz tends to win when they play head to head.

Maybe Sinner is the best hard court player right now, but Alcaraz has a better all court game. Sinner still hasn’t even made a final of a slam on another surface. Alcaraz only needed the Aussie Open to complete the career grand slam at 21 years old. That’s absolutely crazy. He’s the top dog right now until proven otherwise.

 

[LT]

Right, but that’s how a settlement works. You can’t just assume guilt because a settlement occurred. The case was dropped.

Domestic abuse cases are often not straight forward. This is not like an obvious murderer who there’s no real question of fact whether they murdered someone. I personally don’t think it’s right to assume guilt when there’s real questions about the outcome. And if the parties settle, that’s their business. I’m not going to hold this guy up as a domestic abuser for the rest of his life. Doesn’t mean I like him, but I also wouldn’t paint him with that stain.

This happening to him twice sheds a lot of that doubt and paints a poor picture of his of personal life.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

This happening to him twice sheds a lot of that doubt and paints a poor picture of his of personal life.

Well, the first investigation was dropped due to insufficient evidence.

I mean yeah, seems like he’s got some issues in his personal life. Doesn’t mean he should be fairly painted with a stain as a domestic abuser.

Think there’s room to acknowledge he’s got a messy personal life and not assume he’s basically a criminal.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Well, the first investigation was dropped due to insufficient evidence.

I mean yeah, seems like he’s got some issues in his personal life. Doesn’t mean he should be fairly painted with a stain as a domestic abuser.

Think there’s room to acknowledge he’s got a messy personal life and not assume he’s basically a criminal.

Sure and by that same logic you can apply it to Sinner, Sinner failed two drug tests but that doesn't mean he doped on purpose. We can understand nuances in situations BUT I think more people have an easier time understanding a dude who's tested positive for drugs with a valid explanation v a woman beater allegation twice. Sinner probably might deserve some sort of punishment since you're 100% responsible for your body in tennis. FWIW also, Kyrgios also has no room to talk about Sinner in the doping regard as well.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

As an Alcaraz fan, it pains me to say this but Sinner is the best player on the planet and it's not even close. I know Sinner went 0-3 against him last year but Alcaraz has been relative garbage since losing that Olympic final to Djokovic while Sinner is winning all the tournaments big and small.

Sinner is the undisputed King of Hard Courts and he's really close to conquering clay and grass too. I find him boring tbh, I like players with flair to their game and that express emotion on the court, but I can respect the dominance and the ruthlessly efficient and brutal pace on his ground strokes from both wings.

I guess we'll see what happens with the doping case as we'll get some clarity on this in the next few months, I sure as hell hope he comes out clean for the sake of the sport because what a stain on tennis if he is indeed suspended long term for doping.

Meh, I'm not totally sure about this. His body failed in a really bad way last year on clay and he got injured really bad until the hard court swing last year. He might win a Wimbledon here and there also but I don't think Sinner's game is that good on grass imo. He's gonna have to run it up the score on hard court.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Sure and by that same logic you can apply it to Sinner, Sinner failed two drug tests but that doesn't mean he doped on purpose. We can understand nuances in situations BUT I think more people have an easier time understanding a dude who's tested positive for drugs with a valid explanation v a woman beater allegation twice. Sinner probably might deserve some sort of punishment since you're 100% responsible for your body in tennis. FWIW also, Kyrgios also has no room to talk about Sinner in the doping regard as well.

Think you’re conflating these issues.

Sinner was found to have violated the antidoping regulations. I’m pretty sure he already stated that he accepted that it occurred and isn’t contesting that part of it.

To me, that’s black and white. I’m not claiming he’s injecting himself with steroids or anything too serious. Yet, he should face a suspension that others have. To me the part I find more unlikable is not his actions, but the preferential treatment he’s gotten. And maybe that’s the fault of others, but I think it reflects adversely on him.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Think you’re conflating these issues.

Sinner was found to have violated the antidoping regulations. I’m pretty sure he already stated that he accepted that it occurred and isn’t contesting that part of it.

To me, that’s black and white. I’m not claiming he’s injecting himself with steroids or anything too serious. Yet, he should face a suspension that others have. To me the part I find more unlikable is not his actions, but the preferential treatment he’s gotten. And maybe that’s the fault of others, but I think it reflects adversely on him.

You're right, he was, but the issue at hand is most tennis players don't understand the rules when it comes to this stuff because it's so vague. I'm not sure if you watch any of the Andy Roddick YouTube/podcast stuff he does but that's what the common consensus is from players he talks to and former guys that they don't truly don't know how tennis judges these tests. I've agreed with you Sinner deserves blame for adding a coach with a ropey history and apparently the cream he used had markings on it to say it had the banned substance then Sinner should get something imo but not the 2 year suspension that's being floated around. But also, at the same time, the amount in his body is so insignificant that it probably granted him no edge anyway. Tennis has to outlaw how they want players to keep these things out of their body, is it an everything at all costs or is it to a certain degree where it grants a significant edge. Sinner has won 2 grand slams since the announcement and hasn't tested positive since which helps his case that he didn't need that stuff to win anyway. I brought up the Zverev thing because of how defensive v Sinner's calm nature when talking about it as if he has nothing to hide, the fact it happened twice and the idea how on court v off court stuff are being treated by tennis fans. In a nutshell, Zverev's allegations are far worse than Sinner's/Iga's.