I thought the best comparable for Marner was the contract Nikita Kucherov signed which was 8 years and $9.5 million AAV since he was coming off a 100 point season when he signed that. Marner just had a 94 point season in 2018-19 and the fact both of them play Right Wing.
Did Jack Eichel deserves a $10 million contract extension when he signed it? At that time he only had 56 and 57 point seasons during his first two years in Buffalo.Do you get paid on what you have done or will do. Guy prior to his last season of his ELC had never broken 100 points, or 90 or 80, he’ll even 70 yet he deserves to be the second highest paid player in the NHL?
Please feel free to join my HR at my job, looking to get overpaid based on projections alone. Not results.
I did too for contract basis but overall I take Kucherov all day every day over Mitch without blinking an eye ... Kuch has a bullet accurate shot and his straight line skating far exceeds Mitch but both can twirl in a phone booth and Mitch may have a little more vision and passing skill
They were both dominant enough to justify their contracts. People don't seem to realize this due to an overreliance on exclusively raw points mixed with their unusually low PP time, especially relative to stars of the early cap era. The pre-signing periods for Matthews and Marner would rank better in the cap era than where they would rank in terms of biggest post-ELC contracts (adjusted for term). The contract thing is massively overblown, either by people not understanding contract valuation, or by people intentionally excluding critical context.
Since Kucherov has played 7 NHL seasons and Marner has only played 4 NHL seasons, shouldn't he be ahead of him or a better player based on that?
Da problem with Tampa is Florida state tax ... there is ZERO tax paid in Florida so guys take less and net same after tax $$$ in their pocket ... Cirelli team listening to 5.5M per from Steve Y and that translates to 4.7M in Florida ... i hate to say it but reality is it has to be taken into consideration ... year after year guys are signing for Florida tax adjusted AAV's which are CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP ... do you honestly think we here in Toronto would get NHL's voted #4 defensive forward of year for 4.7M for 3 years? A #2 centre, and a top 5 #2 centre in league? ... as i have said in past this CBA has many issues but now that sponsors $$$ can't buy us out of issues likely for next 3-4 years this TAX problem is gonna hurt us
Do you honestly think GM's of the other teams who are not the Lightning and Panthers care about the tax situation in Florida? Maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way but if a GM see's Kucherov's $9.5 million AAV for 8 years and wants their player to sign that same deal or a very similar one, does he say oh no the Lightning have that tax advantage and I guess were screwed here.
It is not about GMs it is da agents who explain it very very clearly to all da GMs ... da math around these deals today is extremely detailed and does complete tax calculations down to da dollar ... days of old where you had a face to face blow by blow negotiation are way over
I will ask Rocks for his kids powerpoint sheet from Tampa but I am told it is very exact down to a dollar an EXACT tax number so he made exactly same $$$ as he would in Detroit ... now Tampa has drafted and developed really really well too (best in league) but they are utilizing Florida tax situation to da nines in negotiations with their guys to take their discounts ... you are kidding yourself if you think guys take less because of team ... it is too hard to make it (virtually impossible) and it costs a MINT today to make it so families in many cases sacrificed way too much and these kids know it ... hockey has always been an expensive sport but it used to be a cops/fireman's kids from Mimico with a stay at home mom could scrape by and still make it ... those days are over .. today it is $100,000+ minimum lottery ticket and that is with a ton of help
You don't see players wanting to sign for less money with the Panthers under the same tax circumstances.
I completely agree that when it comes to endorsements Toronto should be considered #1. I mean would Zach Hyman be on commercials if he played for any other team and I'm including the other six Canadian teams.
I remember reading a report that when Steve Yzerman was the Lightning GM and meet with John Tavares about signing with them, he tried to use their tax advantage as to why he should consider signing for less AAV.
Do you get paid on what you have done or will do. Guy prior to his last season of his ELC had never broken 100 points, or 90 or 80, he’ll even 70 yet he deserves to be the second highest paid player in the NHL?
Please feel free to join my HR at my job, looking to get overpaid based on projections alone. Not results.
how come da other non state tax teams like da Panthers/Knights/Preds not getting these discounts ?
