Player Discussion Auston Matthews Discussion

[hoglund]

every year in elimination games matthews shits the bed. this time, literally.

Have they revealed his illness?

 

[Sypher04]

Players that can't play because of a real injury come back and sit on the bench all the time. We just saw it with Brayden Point. This is just another example of how this "team" operates.

If he was literally physically ill then that’s a perfectly rational reason for not coming back to the bench

 

[mjd1001]

I highly doubt it's just an illness at this point - it has to be much more serious if he's been pulled out of games and isn't able to skate despite the numerous days off we've had in the series lately.

We are just guessing, that is the issue
-Is it a cold/flu?
-Is it something similar like long covid/novovirus?
-Is what happened on the bench more than it is, and he 'took his ball and went home' and since he's the alpha dog on this team he is going to demand changes?
-Is it another injury that isn't being full disclosed?
-is it any combination of the above?

Some of those things above are unlikely, some are more likely. Maybe is something none of us are event thinkin about. The main issue is, the team isn't letting the fanbase know, and the more serious the issue is, the less likely they are going to let anyone know.

 

[Gilmour1996]

We are just guessing, that is the issue
-Is it a cold/flu?
-Is it something similar like long covid/novovirus?
-Is what happened on the bench more than it is, and he 'took his ball and went home' and since he's the alpha dog on this team he is going to demand changes?
-Is it another injury that isn't being full disclosed?
-is it any combination of the above?

Good list but there are even more possibilities.

 

[Tak7]

We are just guessing, that is the issue
-Is it a cold/flu?
-Is it something similar like long covid/novovirus?
-Is what happened on the bench more than it is, and he 'took his ball and went home' and since he's the alpha dog on this team he is going to demand changes?
-Is it another injury that isn't being full disclosed?
-is it any combination of the above?

Some of those things above are unlikely, some are more likely. Maybe is something none of us are event thinkin about. The main issue is, the team isn't letting the fanbase know, and the more serious the issue is, the less likely they are going to let anyone know.

I've never (ever) got the sense or vibe that Matthews is this sort of person - he doesn't seem to be petty & selfish like that.

Him showing up for the skate, and then leaving shortly afterwards, basically confirms in my eyes that he's injured and they don't want word getting out.

 

[saffronleaf]

Pathetic. Won't even play elimination game.

 

[mjd1001]

Good list but there are even more possibilities.

Rumors for the last couple days of a concussion....could be that too, but for the life of me I can't remember anything on the ice that would have caused it.

 

[tuckerintensity]

If he was literally physically ill then that’s a perfectly rational reason for not coming back to the bench

The fans, though I hesitate to use that word, are increasingly ridiculous about everything. I get frustration, but even Bieksa said on the broadcast that everything he knows and has heard from people who know Matthews is that he battles and will do anything he can to play. Friedman confirmed that this is exactly what he hears when people talk about Matthews, as well.

If he's not in, he can't go. People don't want to believe that though, they want to drive the narrative bus at 100 MPH.

 

[LeafsStorm]

Guessing it's confirmed he doesn't play tonight

 

[ACC1224]

Guessing it's confirmed he doesn't play tonight

There is no reason to confirm it so far from puck drop.

 

[Gilmour1996]

Rumors for the last couple days of a concussion....could be that too, but for the life of me I can't remember anything on the ice that would have caused it.

Analyst says Leafs, Matthews may be hiding the truth about his health

With Auston Matthews' ongoing battle with an illness, believed to be food poisoning, one Leafs analyst is convinced that the issue is something far more serious.

www.mapleleafsdaily.com

 

[Jojalu]

NFL players have cut off body parts (infected fingers) in order to play in the playoffs. If Matthews doesn't play...

I don't know to say.

That's not really what happened with Ronnie Lott but your point remains the same

 

[Stephen]

Rumors for the last couple days of a concussion....could be that too, but for the life of me I can't remember anything on the ice that would have caused it.

Maybe that BS McAvoy was pulling on that takedown.

 

[TheTotalPackage]

If it is indeed the flu or some other nasty virus, I'll give Matthews a pass. Having come off a nasty flu myself that completely wiped me on my ass and I couldn't do anything, I couldn't even imagine trying to play and exert myself at the highest level of a professional sport. No matter how many meds, fluids, IVs and rest is taken.

I will say though, if the Leafs flake out tonight in a Game 5, between Matthews' illness (or whatever else it may be), Nylander's absence in the first three games, and the big brother fighting the other night on the bench, that would be a huge exclamation mark on this Core 3's tenure of playoff failure.

 

[rojac]

Analyst says Leafs, Matthews may be hiding the truth about his health

With Auston Matthews' ongoing battle with an illness, believed to be food poisoning, one Leafs analyst is convinced that the issue is something far more serious.

www.mapleleafsdaily.com

Quoting a blog post that quotes Howard Berger? Are those the depths to which we have sunk?

 

[Tak7]

Guessing it's confirmed he doesn't play tonight

Are you, like, new to playoff hockey.. ?

You posted at noon EST

 

[Hugh Mongusbig]

Have they revealed his illness?

We are just guessing, that is the issue
-Is it a cold/flu?
-Is it something similar like long covid/novovirus?
-Is what happened on the bench more than it is, and he 'took his ball and went home' and since he's the alpha dog on this team he is going to demand changes?
-Is it another injury that isn't being full disclosed?
-is it any combination of the above?

Some of those things above are unlikely, some are more likely. Maybe is something none of us are event thinkin about. The main issue is, the team isn't letting the fanbase know, and the more serious the issue is, the less likely they are going to let anyone know.

Good list but there are even more possibilities.

clearly its toxic shock. This whole core gets it. It coincides with their first playoff period every year.

 

[Gary Nylund]

If he was literally physically ill then that’s a perfectly rational reason for not coming back to the bench

Yes. I'm surprised so many people are on his case, I see zero reason to doubt him. Guy played the playoff game of his life in game 2, not sure why anyone would think he wasn't chomping at the bit to play the next one. He looked so dead out there, like he had zero energy and could barely skate.

Get well soon Auston, we need you!!

If it is indeed the flu or some other nasty virus, I'll give Matthews a pass. Having come off a nasty flu myself that completely wiped me on my ass and I couldn't do anything, I couldn't even imagine trying to play and exert myself at the highest level of a professional sport. No matter how many meds, fluids, IVs and rest is taken.

I will say though, if the Leafs flake out tonight in a Game 5, between Matthews' illness (or whatever else it may be), Nylander's absence in the first three games, and the big brother fighting the other night on the bench, that would be a huge exclamation mark on this Core 3's tenure of playoff failure.

Yeah Marner's injury as well. I mean I don't think that explains his sub par play but still, it's something. If this had happened 5 years ago I'd say they have their excuses built in but after 17 1st round exits in a row, it's hard for me as a fan to accept any excuse, no matter how valid it might be. It's like maybe they have an excuse for this time, but there's been so many other times already that you're just not allowed excuses any more.

 

[authentic]

The fans, though I hesitate to use that word, are increasingly ridiculous about everything. I get frustration, but even Bieksa said on the broadcast that everything he knows and has heard from people who know Matthews is that he battles and will do anything he can to play. Friedman confirmed that this is exactly what he hears when people talk about Matthews, as well.

If he's not in, he can't go. People don't want to believe that though, they want to drive the narrative bus at 100 MPH.

Honestly seems half of our fans are completely delusional when it comes to their opinions about Matthews

 

[djdev]

i feel like an option nobody is mentioning is vertigo. pretty rough virus and movement makes it much worse.

 

[tuckerintensity]

Yeah Marner's injury as well. I mean I don't think that explains his sub par play but still, it's something. If this had happened 5 years ago I'd say they have their excuses built in but after 17 1st round exits in a row, it's hard for me as a fan to accept any excuse, no matter how valid it might be. It's like maybe they have an excuse for this time, but there's been so many other times already that you're just not allowed excuses any more.

It's a good point about Marner, I think from watching his skating that it's obvious the ankle is still affecting him. Guys play with injuries, so it's not an excuse, you can just tell that he's not 100% (I haven't heard him complain about that either. Whine about penalties like a petulant child, yes, his ankle, no).

 

[BertCorbeau]

Realistically no one know how Matthews feels except for Matthews. It’s fair to point out how other guys have battling through injury and illness but we don’t know how they’ve felt.

If he decided to tough it out and play, great. Top of the cap. But if he struggles because of it, it’s hard to pin it all on him.

 

[NJG]

Have they revealed his illness?

Just speculation but as to what Keefe said it’s a lingering issue and it gets worse when he’s out there and playing hard and it’s serious enough for him to not play… Myocarditis?

 

[Gary Nylund]

It's a good point about Marner, I think from watching his skating that it's obvious the ankle is still affecting him. Guys play with injuries, so it's not an excuse, you can just tell that he's not 100% (I haven't heard him complain about that either. Whine about penalties like a petulant child, yes, his ankle, no).

Hard to tell, he's looked pretty agile in some moments to me but at the same time, he's probably not 100% either. But some of the mistakes he's made have been mental errors that have nothing to do with his ankle, just your basic everyday shambles of the brain. But whatever, that goal he scored was pretty, would be nice to see more stuff like that tonight, we'll see.

GLG!!

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Matthews can wear a diaper and puke in the bucket on the bench