Tribute Auston Matthews Discussion "the Beauty" Edition

[Plub]

The only thing he has to fix is those high risk moves he pulls in the d-zone. Other then that he's been far and away our best player this season.

Those kinds of plays will never go away with players like Matthews, McDavid, Crosby, OV, Dari, etc. it’s just part of the confidence they have in themselves.

 

[stickty111]

I wouldn't have guessed it went along the ice.

 

[34]

I wouldn't have guessed it went along the ice.

Elite sniper.

 

[BertCorbeau]

I wouldn't have guessed it went along the ice.

I'm just convinced it when right through the pad, it was that quick of a shot

 

[Stephen]

to me its clear that babcock held him back
we have a good coach now and our superstar is flying
he is one of our best players
and he found the next level
playin absolutely like a beast
awesome
im so glad we tanked for him

I feel like this next evolution for him has been stuff that Babcock wanted out of him, especially the idea that physicality and 200 foot game could actually add to his offensive strengths. But clearly they didn't have the best of working relationships.

 

[Vaive50]

2 behind Pastrnak. Could be tough to catch him.

He was great all around in the last couple games, though.

Seems like this season he just keeps finding new gears we've never seen before.

2 goals for these kinds of star players isn't tough, I mean any of these guys (including Ovi) are capable of having multiple goal games. He is still 2 goals under Pasta but now 2 ahead of Ovi for the Rocket. He is also 9th overall in points (only 3 under Kucherov for 7th) where Ovi is 25th in points.

 

[Menzinger]

Ill go to my grave not ever fully understanding how that goal went in last night

 

[Superstar]

Ill go to my grave not ever fully understanding how that goal went in last night

You need to watch The Matrix...that puck tore through the fabric...

 

[tom leafers]

I wouldn't have guessed it went along the ice.

i honestly thought he roofed it given how high the puck bounced.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

There's no such thing as Matthews taking a bad shot. He can score from anywhere, any angle

 

[Oscar Peterson]

i honestly thought he roofed it given how high the puck bounced.

That angle looks deceptive, to me that looks like the puck is in the air but is just the right difference away from the net that it appears to be on the goal line in a 2d photo. Lol

 

[BAM]

I wonder if Keefe would ever consider putting Matthews on for the full pp just like the Caps do for Ovi. He's a threat just standing there and would open up ice for the rest of the second unit.

 

[Nithoniniel]

I got a bit curious about something based on an earlier discussion. Now, I'm far from a proponent of looking primarily at points to judge players, but when I do I like to look at non-empty net primary points. The non-empty netters is pretty obvious, you are more than five times more likely to score on an empty net, which makes it very questionable to give it the same weight as a normal point. And then primary points because that's the better indicator of the player himself.

Here's how that would look for our Big Four:

Player	Raw Points	Primary Points	Without Empty Net	Paced	Differential
Auston Matthews	77	63	59	0.89	0.28
Mitch Marner	64	46	41	0.74	0.42
John Tavares	58	49	46	0.78	0.2
William Nylander	57	47	47	0.73	0.16

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

I think this lines up much better with my impressions this season, and I think it captures just the extent to which Matthews is our MVP this season. The offense he drives is just insane.

 

[Papa Cherry]

Matthews needs to shoot more

 

[Nithoniniel]

Matthews needs to shoot more

He's got the fourth most shots in the league.

 

[IPS]

Ill go to my grave not ever fully understanding how that goal went in last night

As if goalies aren't terrified enough of Matthews

 

[Maplebeasts]

I wouldn't have guessed it went along the ice.

Wow that shot really could not have been placed better. I thought it just went 5-hole or something

 

[Man Bear Pig]

I wouldn't have guessed it went along the ice.

At first I thought it went 5 hole, then I thought he snuck it between the blocker and pad. I still dont see it going in.

 

[blue stick]

Elite sniper.

Lol, you have ginsued the guy in almost every game day thread.

 

[Nithoniniel]

I got a bit curious about something based on an earlier discussion. Now, I'm far from a proponent of looking primarily at points to judge players, but when I do I like to look at non-empty net primary points. The non-empty netters is pretty obvious, you are more than five times more likely to score on an empty net, which makes it very questionable to give it the same weight as a normal point. And then primary points because that's the better indicator of the player himself.

Here's how that would look for our Big Four:

Player	Raw Points	Primary Points	Without Empty Net	Paced	Differential
Auston Matthews	77	63	59	0.89	0.28
Mitch Marner	64	46	41	0.74	0.42
John Tavares	58	49	46	0.78	0.2
William Nylander	57	47	47	0.73	0.16

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

I think this lines up much better with my impressions this season, and I think it captures just the extent to which Matthews is our MVP this season. The offense he drives is just insane.

Figured that it might be interesting to see how this looks under Keefe:

Matthews - 0.86
Marner - 0.76
Tavares - 0.78
Nylander - 0.83

You can really see the shift there. The other three are standing pat, but Nylander has jumped up to absolute elite level. And if you move past per game and use per 60 instead, you get:

Player	Full Season	Sheldon Era
Matthews	2.58	2.42
Marner	2.32*	2.22*
Tavares	2.4	2.38
Nylander	2.44	2.75

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Hello, Willy.

* This excludes his PK minutes, as that would have been unfair to him.

Edit:
As a point of reference, here's this process with Draisaitl.

Raw Points - 102
Primary - 76
Minus ENP - 70
Per Game - 1,08
Per 60 - 2,97

What an absolute point producing machine that boy is.

 

[34]

Lol, you have ginsued the guy in almost every game day thread.

What does that mean?

 

[blue stick]

What does that mean?

Trashing him constantly

 

[Papa Cherry]

He's got the fourth most shots in the league.

No. Need moar

 

[Nithoniniel]

No. Need moar

Greedy.

I like it.

 

[34]

Trashing him constantly

No, not Matthews. I always been on Matthews side. Sure been disappointed a few times, but the guy is our best player.

It is Andersen and Barrie I cant stand.