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Player Discussion Auston Matthews (Captain Edition)

I don’t get why his shot isn’t utilized more on the PP regardless if there’s players in the shooting lane or not… He’s become a floater out there on the PP.

Another frustrating thing with Matthews though at this point, you’d think frustration from not scoring would start to come out at this point and he would take it upon himself to just bomb any pass he gets on the PP and either hope it goes in or it creates a rebound.

Last night on our PP, Auston made 2 lazy passes to kill the plays. One was a backhander to nobody
The other one was to Domi that put Domi in a very bad spot to lose the puck

Auston does everythign to avoid anything physical.
 
At this point Nylander is a better shooter than AM34. Unfortunately Matthews and Marner are looking him off in the playoffs now just so they can pass the puck to each other and generate nothing.
those 2 (Nylander/Matthews) should each be on the dots on their off wings waiting for 1-timers, our biggest issue is the point is NOT a threat, we have no shot back there, so, they defend the pass, and not the shot. We dont have 1 player that can man the point that has a good enough slapper to force defenders to go high, which would open Matthews or Nylander down low.
 
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You might be right. That thought has crossed my mind too. What else can explain such a terrible, cowardly performance? Wouldn't surprise me at all if he enters the NHL's substance abuse program right after the Leafs lose Friday night.

If he really is injured—which I think is bullshit—then he should get surgery, take the whole season off, and go on LTIR. That way, the Leafs can use the extra cap space to bring in players who actually care about winning in the playoffs.
He's gonna for surgery - and the whole media will do what they do best and blame his terrible play on it, and I'm guessing by about July or August the short memories of Leafs nation will forget about all of it and go back to clamouring what amazing elite players we have in Toronto.

That's the amazing thing about this fanbase - you can feed them shit sandwiches every year and the moronic population of Toronto will forget about it in short order and beg for more next year.

The only saving grace is that we're finally getting forced into breaking apart the core-4 via free agency.
 
Byfield is not good, people think he's better than he is because he scored a couple highlight reel goals.He had 54 points this year
This. Byfield for Matthews would be trash in trash out on both sides.

But LA, a team who cant get it done in the playoffs, would be dumb to trade a huge package for a player who also cant get it done in the playoffs
 
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I don’t get why his shot isn’t utilized more on the PP regardless if there’s players in the shooting lane or not… He’s become a floater out there on the PP.

Another frustrating thing with Matthews though at this point, you’d think frustration from not scoring would start to come out at this point and he would take it upon himself to just bomb any pass he gets on the PP and either hope it goes in or it creates a rebound.
if there are players in the lane (and you arent on the blue line) I'd drive it as hard as possible, and make them regret being in the lane for next time... a limping/hurt d-man is much less effective and it wears them down. this is why any time Tanev handles the puck every Florida player finishes the check on him, it wears the guy down, and it really showed last game.
 
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those 2 (Nylander/Matthews) should each be on the dots on their off wings waiting for 1-timers, our biggest issue is the point is NOT a threat, we have no shot back there, so, they defend the pass, and not the shot. We dont have 1 player that can man the point that has a good enough slapper to force defenders to go high, which would open Matthews or Nylander down low.
Agreed, get Marner out of the QB role, he's a clown with a muffin shot that is easily blocked. Put JT in the second unit, put Marner in the bumper, and have OEL on the point.
 
He's a cherry picker. He waits for the rest of the team to open up the ice and feed him the puck. Or there's a big scrum in front of the net and he jets in from the corner for a rebound. How often do you see him carry the puck in first into the offensive zone? Hardly ever. Compare that to MacKinnon or McDavid who will do that all the time zipping around, breaking down defence and if it's open shoot a hard wrister from 15-20 ft out. Jagr used to do the same thing zooming down the right wing.

AM is an opportunistic goal scorer, not a goal creator. When the big rebounds dry up or Marner cant feed him smooth passes, AM will be invisible because he's not getting chances stemming from other teammates.
Lots of reason to not like AM right now but people are taking things too far. AM was still lighting it up last year when he wasn't playing with Marner and was playing with guys like domi and bertuzzi.
 
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if we didnt have bad pinpong ball luck, we'd have won a Cup already. McDavid is the only reason the Oilers do anything.
if McDavid was feeding Nylander, he'd be a 50+ goal guy too. Assuming we didnt get Matthews if we won the 'fixed' lotto (and it was 'fixed' because the Oilers got extra balls for finishing last 2 seasons earlier even though they already had the #1 overall pick the previous draft, and won with one of those extra balls, the rest were all Leafs balls)
Draisaitl has something to do with it too. Those two players elevate their game in the playoffs while Matthews and Marner disappear. The Leafs have had 10 years since the ping pong balls to figure it out and they haven’t.
 
The thing that makes Matthews extra frustrating is he has all the god given tools to succeed. One of the best shots in the league, and a physical build that could make him one of the greatest power forwards of all time. But theres 5'9 guys stuck in the AHL who show far more compete.

One of my favorite players of all time, the man in my profile picture, Mike Richards, is someone he could learn from. I've stood next to Richards, I'm a true 5'10 and I towered over him, yet he found a way to be one of the biggest players every time he stepped on the ice. Fast, physical, he never backed down from anyone. He played every shift like it was his last, until one day it was. And he had some off ice issues that if I had to guess id say Matthews probably does as well. Yet they couldnt be more different in their compete levels.
 
Draisaitl has something to do with it too. Those two players elevate their game in the playoffs while Matthews and Marner disappear. The Leafs have had 10 years since the ping pong balls to figure it out and they haven’t.
you cant say that for any player that has McDavid flanking him. McDavid is the best player since Gretzky and he draws all the defenders to him, and has an ability to make cross seam passes like nobody else in the league. Drais is 'good' but, McDavid makes him exceptional.
Matthews has Marner on his flank, imagine the difference if it were someone like McDavid who creates all kinds of space for everyone else on the ice with his speed and passing ability.

McDavid elevates everyone he's on the ice with.
 
The idea of a sniper with the size of Matthews leaving should be catastrophic for any team... But like, what the hell man. MLSE jumping the gun with the captain bullshit. We need to defund MLSE and Rogers. That is our virus/curse. But this a Matthews thread , so f - him. He can stay in Florida after Fridays game. I don't think I have it in me to go thru a game 7.
 
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The thing that makes Matthews extra frustrating is he has all the god given tools to succeed. One of the best shots in the league, and a physical build that could make him one of the greatest power forwards of all time. But theres 5'9 guys stuck in the AHL who show far more compete.

One of my favorite players of all time, the man in my profile picture, Mike Richards, is someone he could learn from. I've stood next to Richards, I'm a true 5'10 and I towered over him, yet he found a way to be one of the biggest players every time he stepped on the ice. Fast, physical, he never backed down from anyone. He played every shift like it was his last, until one day it was. And he had some off ice issues that if I had to guess id say Matthews probably does as well. Yet they couldnt be more different in their compete levels.
Matthews can barely shoot or handle the puck right now. you never see the puck rolling off his stick like this season, and not being able to elevate a shot or get one off fast.
Leafs should have shut him down for as long as he needed to get healthy, because its really showing how 'off' he is now.
 
This guy is not a real leader, and the post game interview confirms this.

Instead of just owning up to the fact that he was awful this game (and this series), he says "we ALL need to look ourselves in the mirror".
TRANSLATION: Its not just my fault guys, everyone was bad, don't focus on the captain of this team!

When asked about his lack of scoring, he instead starts talking about how he contributes in other ways to be a more complete player.
TRANSLATION: I am SOO much more than a goal scorer, I contribute everywhere on the ice, and don't you forget that!

Yes, the team was shit, BUT YOU ARE THE CAPTAIN OF THIS TEAM, BE A LEADER AND OWN IT LIKE TANEV.
Yes, Matthews does more than just score goals, BUT YOU ARE THE HIGHEST PAID PLAYER IN THE NHL, YOU ARE EXPECTED TO SCORE GOALS AS WELL.

I honestly want this guy gone more than Marner at this point, what a total loser he is.
 
Matthews can barely shoot or handle the puck right now. you never see the puck rolling off his stick like this season, and not being able to elevate a shot or get one off fast.
Leafs should have shut him down for as long as he needed to get healthy, because its really showing how 'off' he is now.
You could very well be right, but whats his excuse the other 8 playoffs?
 
Watching his post game presser was extremely frustrating IMO. He kept referring to “we all need to be better”, not once did he actually take responsibility and say “I NEED TO BE BETTER, IT STARTS WITH ME AS THE CAPTAIN OF THIS TEAM, MY PERFORMANCE TONIGHT WAS NOT ACCEPTABLE AND I NEED AND WILL BE BETTER NEXT GAME”.

It’s exactly what Button said, winning is good and loosing is okay, with this core group of players. Extremely pathetic and frustrating.
He said we have to be better myself included. Him saying himself included means he's talking about himself.
 
This guy is not a real leader, and the post game interview confirms this.

Instead of just owning up to the fact that he was awful this game (and this series), he says "we ALL need to look ourselves in the mirror".
TRANSLATION: Its not just my fault guys, everyone was bad, don't focus on the captain of this team!

When asked about his lack of scoring, he instead starts talking about how he contributes in other ways to be a more complete player.
TRANSLATION: I am SOO much more than a goal scorer, I contribute everywhere on the ice, and don't you forget that!

Yes, the team was shit, BUT YOU ARE THE CAPTAIN OF THIS TEAM, BE A LEADER AND OWN IT LIKE TANEV.
Yes, Matthews does more than just score goals, BUT YOU ARE THE HIGHEST PAID PLAYER IN THE NHL, YOU ARE EXPECTED TO SCORE GOALS AS WELL.

I honestly want this guy gone more than Marner at this point, what a total loser he is.
Both need to be gone. And the truth is they have little control over either situation. Marner will walk on his own and Matthews may not waive his NMC. As usual, MLSE has totally f…ed thenselves.
 
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He said we have to be better myself included. Him saying himself included means he's talking about himself.
Have you ever spoken to a true narcissist? This is such a common deflection method when faced with criticism. He doesn't really want to own up to the fact that this is his team and as captain (and highest paid player), he should be held to a higher standard than the rest of them.
 
Matthews can barely shoot or handle the puck right now. you never see the puck rolling off his stick like this season, and not being able to elevate a shot or get one off fast.
Leafs should have shut him down for as long as he needed to get healthy, because its really showing how 'off' he is now.

Should never have went to 4 Nations. Should have been shut down the last 20 games. The teams managed like a joke. We all know this.
 
Have you ever spoken to a true narcissist? This is such a common deflection method when faced with criticism. He doesn't really want to own up to the fact that this is his team and as captain (and highest paid player), he should be held to a higher standard than the rest of them.
Yes I have and unless you don't know them individually it's nearly impossible to draw conclusions from sound bytes. If he goes out plays well on Friday isn't that being accountable? We also don't know what's said privately either. Nothing is achieved by going off in front of the media in Toronto.
 

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