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Like anything it depends on the return but he’s been the biggest disappointment for sure.
Player Discussion Auston Matthews (Captain Edition)
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Stephen
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Matthews wouldn’t have the puck long enough on his stick for Stevens to do anything with him. If anything he’d send over a suicide pass to Knies bailing on the play causing Stevens to blast Knies into the afterlife while Auston looked on without emotion, didn’t see anything expression on his face.
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Of course.
Assuming the return is reasonable, I think he should be traded. The Leafs are NOT going to win the way things are. Matthews is going to be a beat up 28 year old in October so get what you can.
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Some teams will think they can fix the problem or teams just want to get into the playoffs. He’s a star name which helps bring in revenue. There’s other ways teams can look at why he is worry trading for.
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He’s the worst of the bunch. Mitch Marner mentality with an Eric Lindros body. Yeah the small puck carrier who never went to the gym may have a stylistic preference to control from the perimeter. What’s your excuse when you’re 6’4” and 225 pounds?
Honestly.. he's probably been our worst playoff performer in this era. I know a lot of people jump down Marner's throat, but Matthews has more going for him than Marner when it comes to playoff hockey.
Marner is a small, speedy, defensively responsible playmaking winger. 90% of the playoffs takes place along the boards, which is Marner's weakest position on the ice. Not to mention he is dishing it off to a guy who cannot score or generate anything in the playoffs (Matthews).
I think ending this era is long overdue. The biggest issue isn't Mitch, Nylander, Tavares, Riley, Woll.. none of them help, for sure.. but our captain is the biggest problem we have.
Ask him to waive the NMC and send it into a rebuild while we have assets to turn into futures. We are not going to win anything with Matthews as a number 1 guy.
Marner is a small, speedy, defensively responsible playmaking winger. 90% of the playoffs takes place along the boards, which is Marner's weakest position on the ice. Not to mention he is dishing it off to a guy who cannot score or generate anything in the playoffs (Matthews).
I think ending this era is long overdue. The biggest issue isn't Mitch, Nylander, Tavares, Riley, Woll.. none of them help, for sure.. but our captain is the biggest problem we have.
Ask him to waive the NMC and send it into a rebuild while we have assets to turn into futures. We are not going to win anything with Matthews as a number 1 guy.
You guys for real? Stamkos at least ripped a puck top cheese with a shredded hamstring in the finals. It’s one of the most epic hockey moments of the decade and my lifetime. He might not have been the guy on those Tampa teams, but Matthews couldn’t carry his jock strap.
It was in his scouting report. They touched on his lack of offense in big game situations while he was with Zurich. Matthews being a choker was known in the hockey world.
He's undoubtedly hurt and I'd be willing to give him a pass if it wasn't for the previous 9 years where he has disappeared and failed to raise his level in the playoffs. He's never showed the ability to drag his team into it and to a win unlike players players played similarly. Does this team have the guts to move him? Probably not. Does he have a NMC? Yes. Is it a bad idea to trade him? Maybe not.
If we got multiple 1sts, top prospects/top young roster players. Maybe 5 pieces deep? Yeah I think that's worth looking at.
How about Byfield, Clarke, Greentree to start.
If we got multiple 1sts, top prospects/top young roster players. Maybe 5 pieces deep? Yeah I think that's worth looking at.
How about Byfield, Clarke, Greentree to start.
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No it wasn’t. Early days Matthews had a knack for scoring big goals too. Just evaporated over the years.
And that's been my position since the Montreal series. We know what Marner is at this point, yet people blame him when Matthews pulls his disappearing act and he has no one to play with. The stupid plays start because he's trying too hard to generate SOMETHING (Knies has helped a lot; he's much better than watching Mitch set up Hyman, LOL), and that's entirely because his usual first option might as well not be there. It's why I've been asking why they don't try Marner with Tavares for a while; see if THEY can work together, because at least Tavares is willing to shoot and isn't single-handedly blowing up 99% of the offensive plays with his total lack of give-a-shit.
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He scored an OT winner against CBJ, unfortunately the whole team disappeared just 24 hours later in game 5.
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Sundin is a greater Leaf than Matthews...he played in an era when guys were allowed to be draped over you...Sundin would literally drag the opposing player to the net and score.
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Matthews trade value is literally at its lowest it's been in the last 8 years. Even if the team is dead set on such a move, you let him rebound a season and see if he'll do a sign and trade next off-season.
Stephen
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Yeah you clear the deck if McDavid wants to be the saviour here.
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Genuinely don’t know why he wasn’t LTIR’ed until the playoffs.
He couldn’t shoot in the regular season and can’t shoot in the playoffs.
His only two goals came from a pass to the net with the goalie screened and a shot on goal when the goalie was looking behind the net.
He doesn’t have the ability to beat a goalie clean anymore after doing it 50+ times last season. At this point it would be a shock to hear he doesn’t need wrist surgery in the offseason.
He couldn’t shoot in the regular season and can’t shoot in the playoffs.
His only two goals came from a pass to the net with the goalie screened and a shot on goal when the goalie was looking behind the net.
He doesn’t have the ability to beat a goalie clean anymore after doing it 50+ times last season. At this point it would be a shock to hear he doesn’t need wrist surgery in the offseason.
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They can't negotiate his next massive overpayment (or as Treliving calls it, "a partnership) until the final year of his current deal. That would be the offseason before the 27-28 season.
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I believe you’re thinking of Kasperi Kapanen
he is no number 1 center man when he's not in the line up the leaf's are winners when he's playing their losers he should never see another game as a Toronto maple leaf
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Byfield is not good, people think he's better than he is because he scored a couple highlight reel goals.He had 54 points this year
Stephen
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At least he’s taking care of defense when not scoring right? Just unserious bullshit stick poking garbage as usual. No physicality stop a play. Not using the boards to try and get it out. Low percentage little hope pass. And don’t even want to talk about the hideousness that is Morgan Rielly. Holy f***.
well after 69 years of being a leafs i have finally had my fill of this team this is the most gutless team that i have ever seen so as a old yes a very old leafs fan good luck to you all and i hope you never have to see such a useless team as this it's been a long run for me but i cannot watch anymore of this garbage i will be dumping all of my leafs products to a dump tomorrow after 69 years im calling it quits
