Player Discussion Auston Matthews (Captain Edition)

[HellasLEAF]

I'm a huge fan of Matthews but at some point his gloves need to come off in a scrum. Don't follow in JT's footsteps.

 

[Aashir Mallik]

Nathan mackinnon now at 13 in 8
Nikita Kucherov now at 13 in 7
Artemi Panarin now at 13 in 7
Connor Mcdavid now at 8 in 7
Cale Makar now at 15 in 8

these are Matthew's comparables and he has a measly 5...this just isn't good enough.

 

[Tie Domi Esquire]

Nathan mackinnon now at 13 in 8
Nikita Kucherov now at 13 in 7
Artemi Panarin now at 13 in 7
Connor Mcdavid now at 8 in 7
Cale Makar now at 15 in 8

these are Matthew's comparables and he has a measly 5...this just isn't good enough.

Those guys aren't comparable since they all signed for 8 years. Matthews is unprecedented in his selfishness and lack of production.

 

[mapleleaf979]

Matthews has no compete level, its all about 13.25 million. He was responsible for 3 goals against last night. He didnt show up, didnt give a bleep. The team followed the captains vibe. The first 2 goals, were Matthews fault.

 

[sampollock]

#34 hss all the talent any team would want.
Brube maybe shake him up.
He is does play similar to Mitch
Which is who ihe is.. scoring 1st
60 goals is huge

 

[Stephen]

Matthews has no compete level, its all about 13.25 million. He was responsible for 3 goals against last night. He didnt show up, didnt give a bleep. The team followed the captains vibe. The first 2 goals, were Matthews fault.

So was the third Blues goal. He got a grenade pass from McCabe and bobbled it into the corner instead of moving his feet to turn north and went into the corner with his lazy stick checking instead of just pinning the Blue or getting his hands dirty competing for the loose puck. Just lazy garbage.

Matthews takes a lot of nights off on the 200 foot game. Usually it’s all okay because he’ll find a way to pot 2 and be a difference maker but man are the details ever poor with him sometimes. The way he’s going he’s not showing a reliable captain and leadership material.

 

[Stephen]

Also, using Matthews on the point PP1 unit is one of the dumbest things I’ve seen in a while. The guy has his preferred scoring mark and it’s not from the point. He doesn’t clap it from distance and isn’t the greatest facilitator so you’re taking away the sniper and you’re shoehorning him into a different role.

 

[thewave]

Also, using Matthews on the point PP1 unit is one of the dumbest things I’ve seen in a while. The guy has his preferred scoring mark and it’s not from the point. He doesn’t clap it from distance and isn’t the greatest facilitator so you’re taking away the sniper and you’re shoehorning him into a different role.

JT and MR are by far the worst. MM is doing a lot of dumb things on the PP. He is so easy to eliminate or not care about either because he doesn't score goals on the PP.

WN AM and OEL are locks on pp1 for me. Outside that they need to mix it up some.

 

[mjd1001]

I have seen nothing so far this year that changes my opinion of Matthews:

-He is a great goal scorer that has streaks of 5-7 games where his production is slightly lower, but he usually makes up for it with a hot streak.

-He generally is pretty good without the puck. At least positionally, he knows where to be and is there. On occasion he will look like he gives a bit of a lack of effort but overall he is good defensively.

-He will give you the same effort in the regular season and the payoffs. The problem with that is, it APPEARS many other stars reach down and go to a 'higher level' in the playoffs. Matthews doesn't (or hasn't yet) done that.

Again, nothing yet has changed my mind on him. He is what he is.

 

[Stephen]

I have seen nothing so far this year that changes my opinion of Matthews:

-He is a great goal scorer that has streaks of 5-7 games where his production is slightly lower, but he usually makes up for it with a hot streak.

-He generally is pretty good without the puck. At least positionally, he knows where to be and is there. On occasion he will look like he gives a bit of a lack of effort but overall he is good defensively.

-He will give you the same effort in the regular season and the payoffs. The problem with that is, it APPEARS many other stars reach down and go to a 'higher level' in the playoffs. Matthews doesn't (or hasn't yet) done that.

Again, nothing yet has changed my mind on him. He is what he is.

For a player of his calibre it often feels like he struggles to find inspiration to be at his best.

 

[647Hockey]

Nathan mackinnon now at 13 in 8
Nikita Kucherov now at 13 in 7
Artemi Panarin now at 13 in 7
Connor Mcdavid now at 8 in 7
Cale Makar now at 15 in 8

these are Matthew's comparables and he has a measly 5...this just isn't good enough.

IMO, Matthews is very similar to Draisaitl. Both will rack up goals and pts if given linemates who can feed him passes, or get opportunistic goals on the PP. Dany Heatley was similar when he clicked with Alfredsson and Spezza, with a solid PP.

They arent creators. They arent like the guys you listed above who can take the puck from one end and deke out the other team and score or create chances on their own (for themself or for teammates).

That's why when McDavid and Marner or whomever have a slow start on the team, so do Matthews and Draisaitl. Similar players are Hyman and JT. If crash and bang goals within 10 ft of the net arent there, their entire offensive numbers go down the toilet. You wont even notice them playing that game.

Dynamic players can still be noticed during a game even if they get zero pts. But players who rely on those players to help them score will be invisible when they get zero pts.

On the other hand, someone like Joe Sakic could get 100 pts all by himself playing on those dogshit teams early in his career. And when on good teams, still does good and makes players around him better.