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Post-Game Talk: Au revoir Habs: Oilers beat the Canadiens 3-2 in OT

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Good that they won. How many points have they given to other teams though ?
Seems like the only way they win is in overtime. Just saying.

Glad they finally won again.
 
guymez said:
Aisde from the win itself which was badly needed one of the stories of the game was Max-imum Jones.
What a great game he had. Making a difference at both ends of the ice.
Not hard to see why he was a 1st round pick.

Apparenly he had suffered an injury early in the season which is a large part of why he only played in 7 NHL games prior to tonight. Just couldnt get back into the lineup.
He was a full time NHL player prior to signing with Boston and if tonight is any indication Jones looks to be a solid 4th line addition. Very impressed.
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Ehh I think Boston was just a poor fit for him.

He doesn't really bring anything that at a team with Coyle, Frederic, Koepke, Kastelic, Brazeau, and Geekie don't already have in spades. Thus unless he's hitting the ground running, he's not going to be overly noticeable.

Here though, especially with Kane and Frederic out? He stands out due to his physical play and having about 15lb on the next highest Oiler forward.
 
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Emberson with his worst game as an Oiler. I don't see him more than a bottom pairing Dman at this point. Glad we got Walman.

Jones was really impressive. Dineen, other than the horrific giveaway that led to Caufield's goal showed some excellent offensive instinct with his pinching. I see players in both of them!

We hit at least 4 posts, so this going to OT was a bit of a facade. I think our d-zone coverage is terrible. Where is Coffey?
 
That was a huge win for the boys last night. Finally started to see the oilers of old in that third.

Once this trade deadline is finally done and the nerves and anxiety are lifted, I think we go on a winning run.
 
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dssource said:
That was a huge win for the boys last night. Finally started to see the oilers of old in that third.

Once this trade deadline is finally done and the nerves and anxiety are lifted, I think we go on a winning run.
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I dunno man. I'm seeing the Oilers getting wrecked out there and the NHL allowing it. Hyman I don't even know how he's playing anymore and he can sure take a beating.

This is the Habs, one of the weakest teams in the East. Broadcast sure was selling them up all day but what I saw is a team that cannot defend, a club that will collapse and look off the Oilers in defensive end. The times we were getting setup in Habs end is because of how passive they are. Broadcast mentioned how every Habs line could defend but I wasn't seeing that and I was seeing the Suzuki line make terrible plays all night.

If this Habs team managed a playoff spot its an indictment on the East. They've got some players but not much of a squad and its the worst defending I've seen against the Oilers in weeks or months. Add to it that the Habs have a popgun offense. About the only area Habs seem to be good is pk. They were good at that.

Thing is we won in OT. We needed the 3 on 3 gimmick format and 10 of our Wins this season have come that way.

tbh I think the NHL should go with 3pt game format. Regulation W at 3pts, OT only 2. The 4 Nations format was the right one. Stop rewarding the teams that collect OTW.
 
slaman said:
Emberson with his worst game as an Oiler. I don't see him more than a bottom pairing Dman at this point. Glad we got Walman.

Jones was really impressive. Dineen, other than the horrific giveaway that led to Caufield's goal showed some excellent offensive instinct with his pinching. I see players in both of them!

We hit at least 4 posts, so this going to OT was a bit of a facade. I think our d-zone coverage is terrible. Where is Coffey?
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Didn't really see Emberson looking bad and frankly the Habs didn't get much all game. Some hopes and prayers stuff. Emberson took a licking like several Oilers did and kept getting up and competing like a champ. He's built out of rock. Guys slam him into the boards with the best hit they got and he's unphased.

Booch looked better, much better and lets look at how little the Habs mounted in reference to Ekholm/Klingberg out and we had a raw rookie in. For a team that had to win this game, had to have it, I thought we contained pretty well. Habs offense looks pathetic. Never really been sold on Suzuki. Guy botches so many plays. You look at that Habs team and wonder where the goals are supposed to come from. Caufield and Laine and thats it. Habs need a lot of help. How does one of the top markets in hockey have such a bad club?

Offensively Habs look like an expansion club and they don't defend well 5 on 5 either. We were getting lots.
 
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Drivesaitl said:
I dunno man. I'm seeing the Oilers getting wrecked out there and the NHL allowing it. Hyman I don't even know how he's playing anymore and he can sure take a beating.

This is the Habs, one of the weakest teams in the East. Broadcast sure was selling them up all day but what I saw is a team that cannot defend, a club that will collapse and look off the Oilers in defensive end. The times we were getting setup in Habs end is because of how passive they are. Broadcast mentioned how every Habs line could defend but I wasn't seeing that and I was seeing the Suzuki line make terrible plays all night.

If this Habs team managed a playoff spot its an indictment on the East. They've got some players but not much of a squad and its the worst defending I've seen against the Oilers in weeks or months. Add to it that the Habs have a popgun offense. About the only area Habs seem to be good is pk. They were good at that.

Thing is we won in OT. We needed the 3 on 3 gimmick format and 10 of our Wins this season have come that way.

tbh I think the NHL should go with 3pt game format. Regulation W at 3pts, OT only 2. The 4 Nations format was the right one. Stop rewarding the teams that collect OTW.
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I see what you are saying, but I feel what we witnessed in the 3rd we haven't seen from this team in quite a while. There was a drive and they wanted to win, regardless of the extremely poor officiating, which they cannot control.
 
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CantHaveTkachev said:
who cares if they give an Eastern Conference team a point
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And at this point, they'll lose any tiebreaker due to how many of their wins were in extra time, so it doesn't really matter any more provided the opposition isn't one of the teams they are jockeying with for positoin in the West.
 
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I see what you are saying, but I feel what we witnessed in the 3rd we haven't seen from this team in quite a while. There was a drive and they wanted to win, regardless of the extremely poor officiating, which they cannot control.
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Sure. But Habs 5 on 5 are one of the worst teams in the league defensively. Really bad. Can't lose sight of that in terms of what we got out there. Easy to see too how awful the Habs have been defensively and thats WITH Montembault who is some quality. Without him they'd have highest GA in league. That team should be able to defend better but doesn't. They seem to jump offense to compensate for no stars on the team and needing goals but give up the fort defensively. Its a strange club going nowhere. I don't know how the Habs stand pat with this sort of lineup and the fans OK with it. Really a nothing squad.

The Habs would be able to seel tickets to any club but its really kind of sad how ordinary they've been for a longtime. Time for them to shake it up. I don't even know what their plan is. Mediocrity?
 
bone said:
And at this point, they'll lose any tiebreaker due to how many of their wins were in extra time, so it doesn't really matter any more provided the opposition isn't one of the teams they are jockeying with for positoin in the West.
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A few things. Not just that we lose tiebreakers. We're having trouble winning in regulation period, against anybody. Combine that with the Oilers having a very poor record against playoff clubs and I don't know what we got here.

Then our goaltending which mins left in TDL isn't changing.

Have to evaluate how much I want time I spend following this. Several teams improved immeasurably and filled holes. This is a tougher West Conference this season and Oilers didn't get a lot at TDL.
 
Drivesaitl said:
A few things. Not just that we lose tiebreakers. We're having trouble winning in regulation period, against anybody. Combine that with the Oilers having a very poor record against playoff clubs and I don't know what we got here.

Then our goaltending which mins left in TDL isn't changing.

Have to evaluate how much I want time I spend following this. Several teams improved immeasurably and filled holes. This is a tougher West Conference this season and Oilers didn't get a lot at TDL.
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Oh I'm not saying I'm comfortable with where the team is at right now. Just at this point getting the points is paramount and who cares if the other team gets one.

The team has 20 games with the final roster arrangement to figure this out as the team hasn't been good enough whatsoever over the last 6 weeks and haven't really shined against good teams at all this year outside a one month window from early December to mid January.

They have 5 games left vs. top 10 competition, they need to use those games to figure out how to compete against the best or it's going to be a short run this year.
 
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Oh I'm not saying I'm comfortable with where the team is at right now. Just at this point getting the points is paramount and who cares if the other team gets one.

The team has 20 games with the final roster arrangement to figure this out as the team hasn't been good enough whatsoever over the last 6 weeks and haven't really shined against good teams at all this year outside a one month window from early December to mid January.

They have 5 games left vs. top 10 competition, they need to use those games to figure out how to compete against the best or it's going to be a short run this year.
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Looking at what Vegas, Dallas, Colorado have added I don't like the chances of going far this postseason. Last postseason was the easiest possible. In the West the only real quality opponent we had was Dallas. I doubt its that easy this time out.

Vegas are tougher this season. Better roster and Dallas and Colorado would be tough if they get to conference final. I don't think Winnipeg or Minny go too far but you never know.

With Oilers the combo of goaltending and limited depth scoring (real big problem all season) has me with some doubt.
 
Drivesaitl said:
Didn't really see Emberson looking bad and frankly the Habs didn't get much all game. Some hopes and prayers stuff. Emberson took a licking like several Oilers did and kept getting up and competing like a champ. He's built out of rock. Guys slam him into the boards with the best hit they got and he's unphased.

Booch looked better, much better and lets look at how little the Habs mounted in reference to Ekholm/Klingberg out and we had a raw rookie in. For a team that had to win this game, had to have it, I thought we contained pretty well. Habs offense looks pathetic. Never really been sold on Suzuki. Guy botches so many plays. You look at that Habs team and wonder where the goals are supposed to come from. Caufield and Laine and thats it. Habs need a lot of help. How does one of the top markets in hockey have such a bad club?

Offensively Habs look like an expansion club and they don't defend well 5 on 5 either. We were getting lots.
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Don't get me wrong, I really hope that I wasn't seeing things properly with Emberson, but I've never really been sold on him.

Given Ekholm was out, our D managed well. The second goal (which Skinner should have had) had both Nurse and Booch (I think?) floating without covering anyone.

I'm optimistic that our new D add will do wonders for us. Keeps Klinberg on that bottom pairing and allows a bit of rotation when guys are hurt or in a down stretch.

I think the Habs played like I expected - a bubble team. That Anderson contract... Yikes.

Although Jack and Louie seemed to be in love with him, I will say Hutson looks like a solid player!
 
Drivesaitl said:
Sure. But Habs 5 on 5 are one of the worst teams in the league defensively. Really bad. Can't lose sight of that in terms of what we got out there. Easy to see too how awful the Habs have been defensively and thats WITH Montembault who is some quality. Without him they'd have highest GA in league. That team should be able to defend better but doesn't. They seem to jump offense to compensate for no stars on the team and needing goals but give up the fort defensively. Its a strange club going nowhere. I don't know how the Habs stand pat with this sort of lineup and the fans OK with it. Really a nothing squad.

The Habs would be able to seel tickets to any club but its really kind of sad how ordinary they've been for a longtime. Time for them to shake it up. I don't even know what their plan is. Mediocrity?
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I agree with some of the points you make: the teams is not good defensively and they are not an offensive juggernaut with players on the level of McD and Draisaitl.

That said, I find your other points somewhat exaggerated and lacking in context - especially the notion that the Habs are a strange club going nowhere and the fans are OK with it. As a Habs' fan, I'll provide this bit of context: Yes, the team isn't close to a playoff spot, but we bear in mind the team is in year 3 of a rebuild - fans know we're in transition stage, and Kent Hughes hasn’t pushed for contention (yet), in fact he's advocated for managed expectations. So, it's not that fans are good with losing, it’s that we expected rough years during the rebuild. The Habs are where they should be for a team rebuilding.

For additional context, in the spirit of stones and glass houses, and maybe even in the spirit of friendly competitiveness, the Oilers began their rebuild circa 2010 (correct me if I’m wrong) and only in the last couple of years have they become a legitimate contender. So even with the likes of McD and Draistl on the roster for 5-6 years, it's taken some time for the team to become contenders.
 
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