They tried a format that worked in Alberta but it didn't work this time. People make mistakes. No big deal. The profits will still be huge. It is just too bad for Montreal - a city I love. I would love to see more series there but the way things played out, I wouldn't put the World Cup there either.
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They tried a format that worked in Alberta but it didn't work this time. People make mistakes. No big deal. The profits will still be huge. It is just too bad for Montreal - a city I love. I would love to see more series there but the way things played out, I wouldn't put the World Cup there either.
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Jussi
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Oh, I'm sure they'll make a killing financially. Finnish hockey fed made 8 million euro profit from the 2012 Worlds and a 2,5 million euro profit from the 2013 Worlds, despite heavy criticism for the ticket prices and low attendances in games not featuring Finland. For the the tournament atmosphere, lower pricing and higher attendances would have been better. One could say that this doesn't help remove the image of hockey becoming an upper class sport.
Again, I paid $30/ticket for all of the games in Buffalo and I would happily pay twice that. As for those who said they did not want to pay that kind of money for non Canadian games, I enjoyed the non Canadian games more because there was no stress. It is a lot of fun and well worth the money.
You nailed it!!!!!
Now all those hab display pictures that say Canada's team need to go.. JK JJ
jeangauthier
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Poked the bear!!!!!
I also wondered who was responsible but for what it's worth, Rene Fasel blames Hockey Canada. I would assume he knows more about these things than most.
However, it does appear some blame can be assigned to Montreal for the fees charged when purchasing a ticket through the ticket exchange (i.e. official channels and not Stubhub). This is a good post comparing the actual out-of-pocket price differences between Montreal and Toronto when buying through official channels:
Toronto's tickets were sold through Ticketmaster while Montreal's were sold by the Bell Centre.
I definitely agree that is how the statement from the IIHF reads. I guess I am still unsure if he can speak with certainty about who sets the prices.
If IIHF does not set the prices, they likely have no involvement with how they are determined. Fasel says himself he does not know what the appropriate price would be. If he was involved in the process you would think he would at least have a point of reference to contribute.
Hockey Canada and Montreal work in partnership, and with certain assurances from Montreal to Hockey Canada.
Also, even if it was all Montreal, I doubt HC is going to throw them under the bus. partly because I'm sure Hockey Canada is getting the money promised, and also because it not productive to embarrass a host city publicly.
Again, I could be wrong, but I think HC could be getting unfair blame.
@globeandmail: Renney says Hockey Canada committed to Montreal for 2017 world juniors http://t.co/O7wDz11EVq From @Globe_Sports
Assuming Hockey Canada sold a third(?) of the full packages for Montreal, that gives them 2 years to sell the rest - using the playoff round as an incentive. My guess, it will be a sell out come 2017.
They didn't try the formula in Alberta, they increased prices twofold or more.
For a game on december 31, in similar seats to see the US vs. Canada, it was 160$ in Canada while the same game was 55$ in Edmonton. Explain to me where they tried a similar formula with price differences that extreme.
The "less interesting" games were priced at pro-hockey levels, between 60-160$ roughly. Who the hell is going to pay 400-1000$ to get their family to see Germany Finland? I went to see Slovakia Finland and Us Finland, but I definitely recognised the games were expensive.
People in Montreal generally do not have that much money; the salaries here are not at Alberta or Toronto levels, so why would anyone expect to fill seats out for prices above habs games and a product that pales in comparison?
jeangauthier
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Canucks, Sens and Flames don't sellout every game. Are they considered hockey towns?
Nope.....by HF posters........
only Ontario and parts of Nova Scotia
dubey
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I'm not sure you can make the comparison of the kids playing in their respective leagues and the ticket prices for that to this. They are playing for their country so there is increased interest and in theory, one could expect some willingness to play for an increased ticket price. But, these particular prices are exorbitant and at NHL-like costs. This is crazy and it's no surprise they didn't sell out.
I agree with v-man's posts. Hockey Canada overcharged hoping that they could get fans to pay these prices. They picked Montreal and Toronto so that they could play in NHL arenas and didn't those NHL teams or the companies controlling interest in those arenas get a good cut?
The entire tournament was about $$ and the actual 'hockey' was secondary, imho. I certainly don't blame Montrealers for not wanting to pay those prices.
I agree with v-man's posts. Hockey Canada overcharged hoping that they could get fans to pay these prices. They picked Montreal and Toronto so that they could play in NHL arenas and didn't those NHL teams or the companies controlling interest in those arenas get a good cut?
The entire tournament was about $$ and the actual 'hockey' was secondary, imho. I certainly don't blame Montrealers for not wanting to pay those prices.
Exactly. Taking advantage of fans became the story of this tournament.
They cost more than habs games. It's just that most people feel like idiots shelling out that much money, Montreal would easily get more people in the Bell centre if the cost was less obviously. It may not be the only reason, but I think it's probably the biggest reason for the "lack" of attendance, as though the tournament actually generated more than 10,000 people on average for prelims and the first few games.
People pay a few bucks to watch the games on a screen at the bell centre, they wouldn't be going if the price were unreasonable.
Toronto is a larger market, there isn't a history, recently, of watching a winning hockey team and the salaries are higher. They also only averaged 3000 more people per game. Even if they didn't get the Canada games, the tournament games held there are a special opportunity, I wouldn't credit Canada with bumping up average seating too high.
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I dunno, I have co-workers who travelled from out of province to watch every single game in Montreal.
Jussi
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I'm going to assume they bought a package and were able to plan well ahead of time. The event wasn't very well advertised here, and quite frankly people thinking they'd go see a game when they had the time to didn't feel like spending 500$ on a tuesday.
By formula I meant 2 big arenas where one had the Canadian round robin games and the other had the playoff games.
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Pretty sure I've made my feelings known on this, but what's one more time?
I love this tournament. I look forward to it every year. The US has it's Bowl Season, we have the World Juniors. It's not the be all end all, but "it's still important to me, damn it." [/obsessed wrestling fan]
With that said, it's still a U-20 tournament. Just like the College Football Playoff is not the NFL playoffs, the World Juniors are not the Stanley Cup playoffs. It cannot be priced as if it's Game 7 of the Cup Finals or the 2010 Olympics Gold Medal Game. The pricing in Edmonton/Calgary should have been the most expensive we'll have seen, but unfortunately greed seems to have gotten the better of Hockey Canada. If the tournament comes back to Vancouver in 2019, I'll definitely want to go, but not if it's going to cost me more than $50 just to get into a Canada group game (basically priced myself out right now). I only paid $40 for lower bowl at the 2007 Super Series, and that was basically the 08 World Junior Team.
I love this tournament. I look forward to it every year. The US has it's Bowl Season, we have the World Juniors. It's not the be all end all, but "it's still important to me, damn it." [/obsessed wrestling fan]
With that said, it's still a U-20 tournament. Just like the College Football Playoff is not the NFL playoffs, the World Juniors are not the Stanley Cup playoffs. It cannot be priced as if it's Game 7 of the Cup Finals or the 2010 Olympics Gold Medal Game. The pricing in Edmonton/Calgary should have been the most expensive we'll have seen, but unfortunately greed seems to have gotten the better of Hockey Canada. If the tournament comes back to Vancouver in 2019, I'll definitely want to go, but not if it's going to cost me more than $50 just to get into a Canada group game (basically priced myself out right now). I only paid $40 for lower bowl at the 2007 Super Series, and that was basically the 08 World Junior Team.
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