Red Sox/MLB Atlanta’s Chris Sale wins the National League Cy Young Award
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GatorMike
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I don't disagree, but...
Nothing's really happened for anyone yet.
The market's essentially come to a standstill waiting for Soto to make up his mind.
EverettMike
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DKH
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I’d pass on Soto and go after Guerrero and obviously Casas would be going to Toronto
Then I go after Crochet
JRull86
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Jon Morosi is a clown who doesn't have a great track record.
Until I see Passan, or even Rosenthal mention it, I'm optimistic.
JRull86
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Honestly Baerga is pretty plugged in with the Spanish speaking players. He had the Devers extension first if I remember. He also broke Correa to SF Giants before he eventually failed the physical.
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McGarnagle
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$45x14 is only 630 mil. TBQH he's worth it.
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I have no idea what is allowed or not with MLB contracts, but why not make it entirely worth his while to sign here for at least 4 years?
I'm talking something like:
Years 1 - 4 -- $55m each = $220m
Player option for years 5, 6, 7, 8 for $60m each = $240m
Player option for years 9, 10, 11, 12 for $45 million = $180m
All totaled -- $640m with $460 of it in the first 8 years for an average of $57.5 and in years 9-12 he can opt out any time or take $45m at ages 34 - 37?
LouJersey
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Child's play for Steve Cohen
Mets will courtesy sign his best friend Torres, sign Soto....deal a load for Vlad...Let Pete go... McNeil gone...
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BostonBob
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ESPN ranks the Sox as one of the " most fascinating teams " during this offseason.
from espn.com:
What makes them fascinating: Everything. After a half-decade of relative irrelevance -- one AL Championship Series appearance muddied by three last-place finishes -- the Red Sox are now in about as good a position as any team transitioning from losing to winning.
They can be very good, very fast. They've got a cadre of excellent hitting prospects. They've got more than $75 million of wiggle room between their current payroll and the first competitive-balance-tax threshold. They've got foundational players in place (Rafael Devers, Jarren Duran, Triston Casas, Tanner Houck).
What they need most of all, though, is for their ownership group to recognize how close this team is to being something special and empower chief baseball officer Craig Breslow to spend enough to get there. Chasing Soto is a good sign; just how much they're willing to offer Soto will speak to how good.
Beyond Soto, what Boston really needs most is pitching. For all the promise that position-player prospects Roman Anthony, Marcelo Mayer, Kristian Campbell and Kyle Teel bring in the short term -- and Braden Montgomery and Franklin Arias a little further down the road -- the Red Sox have not developed starting pitching to match. That's where the money comes in. Even with Lucas Giolito expected to return from elbow surgery, they need a frontline starting pitcher to spearhead their rotation. There are plenty available. And if they choose wisely, the Red Sox have a chance to be scary sooner than later.
The perfect transaction: Sign free agent left-hander Blake Snell.
Full story: Passan: 12 teams to watch this MLB offseason -- and the perfect move for each
from espn.com:
What makes them fascinating: Everything. After a half-decade of relative irrelevance -- one AL Championship Series appearance muddied by three last-place finishes -- the Red Sox are now in about as good a position as any team transitioning from losing to winning.
They can be very good, very fast. They've got a cadre of excellent hitting prospects. They've got more than $75 million of wiggle room between their current payroll and the first competitive-balance-tax threshold. They've got foundational players in place (Rafael Devers, Jarren Duran, Triston Casas, Tanner Houck).
What they need most of all, though, is for their ownership group to recognize how close this team is to being something special and empower chief baseball officer Craig Breslow to spend enough to get there. Chasing Soto is a good sign; just how much they're willing to offer Soto will speak to how good.
Beyond Soto, what Boston really needs most is pitching. For all the promise that position-player prospects Roman Anthony, Marcelo Mayer, Kristian Campbell and Kyle Teel bring in the short term -- and Braden Montgomery and Franklin Arias a little further down the road -- the Red Sox have not developed starting pitching to match. That's where the money comes in. Even with Lucas Giolito expected to return from elbow surgery, they need a frontline starting pitcher to spearhead their rotation. There are plenty available. And if they choose wisely, the Red Sox have a chance to be scary sooner than later.
The perfect transaction: Sign free agent left-hander Blake Snell.
Full story: Passan: 12 teams to watch this MLB offseason -- and the perfect move for each
Yeah didn’t even blink when I saw the number in my calculator lol
If that’s what it takes I want it done
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As long as the Yankees don't get him or win anything for the next 40 years, I'm good with it.
EverettMike
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The issue is that if he's asking for an opt-out clause after 3 years he's probably also asking that the contract be very front-loaded so that he gets something insane like 200 million in the first three years.
Smitty93
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Yeah, it's really a $55Mx4 deal and if he gets a debilitating injury, you get to pay him $400M for the next 10 years.
I'd still do it.
Mr Cartmenez
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Traded. Don't think all these DHs (Yoshida as well) can co-exist. The league has moved away from permanent DHs. Casas hasn't been extended long term, yet. And Devers is not going anywhere.
I don't even count Yoshida anymore, he'd be the third DH. And he can't be traded, not even given away. You'd have to swallow at least half his remaining money, probably more.
I am not saying they deserve the benefit of the doubt, so any criticism as of today warranted, but this is their opportunity for redemption. There are so many top SP-options available that they really can't miss out again unless they are totally unwilling to spend significant money.
At this point it becomes clearer and clearer that this contract is not only going to be very expensive, but extremely risky as well with so many potential opts outs.
I am standing by my point that only 3 teams can afford Sotos contract: Yankees, Mets and Dodgers. They could live with the worst cases and still be competitive, unlike any other team.
This is getting ridiculous. Just 4 years ago this team was coming off the best season in franchise history was totally content with trading their superstar home-grown MVP, just to take on the biggest contract in league history years later?! I am not believing this for a nano second.
Just get Snell if he intends to sign as one of the first free agents.
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I don't want to move Casas but if it's a prerequisite for bringing in Soto, I'll allow it.
Vlad is an upgrade on Casas too, though the emotional side of me still doesn't want to get rid of him (and especially in-division).
Vlad is an upgrade on Casas too, though the emotional side of me still doesn't want to get rid of him (and especially in-division).
Smitty93
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I don't know, that's kind of classic FSG. The team has been yo-yoing since Theo left, so it wouldn't be all that surprising that they radically change strategies again.
GatorMike
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