ATD2025 Trades or No Trade?

[BenchBrawl]

Do you want trades in ATD2025?

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[Professor What]

So, I want to clarify something about the meaning of my vote. When I voter unlimited trading, I meant number of trades. I'd prefer not to have trading of already selected players and keep trading to picks.

 

[VanIslander]

So, I want to clarify something about the meaning of my vote. When I voter unlimited trading, I meant number of trades. I'd prefer not to have trading of already selected players and keep trading to picks.

So you are the only vote to date for unlimited votes because you want to specify how to limit them? ... then vote limited and say why!!

Unlimited means unlimited. Hopefully even in a post-truth world.

 

[Professor What]

So you are the only vote to date for unlimited votes because you want to specify how to limit them? ... then vote limited and say why!!

Unlimited means unlimited. Hopefully even in a post-truth world.

Well, the problem is that I was thinking it was just number of trades when I voted, and didn't think about the player trades (which again, I'm opposed to) until a few minutes later. And now I can't change my vote. So, I wanted to specify what I had in mind for clarity.

 

[BenchBrawl]

So, I want to clarify something about the meaning of my vote. When I voter unlimited trading, I meant number of trades. I'd prefer not to have trading of already selected players and keep trading to picks.

Unlimited means number of trades.

You can now change your vote, I added the option to do so.

 

[Professor What]

Unlimited means number of trades.

You can now change your vote, I added the option to do so.

So, if I'm for unlimited number of trades, but opposed to player trades, which one do I need to choose? I want to make sure I'm casting my vote accurately, since I've been thinking about it more.

Man, my head is not in things today. I keep doing dumb stuff.

 

[Habsfan18]

Typically I prefer no trades. But I wouldn't mind including limited trades this year just to switch it up in an attempt to keep things fresh.

So trades gets my vote this year, but as always i'll be perfectly happy with no trading.

 

[BenchBrawl]

So, if I'm for unlimited number of trades, but opposed to player trades, which one do I need to choose? I want to make sure I'm casting my vote accurately, since I've been thinking about it more.

Man, my head is not in things today. I keep doing dumb stuff.

Just pick unlimited. Trading players will not be allowed period, after the shitstorm a few years back. It looks pretty obvious everyone is in the mood for a laid back draft, not some cut throat business like it used to be in the 2010s. Let's keep it simple.

 

[tinyzombies]

I vote for limited trades - open it up for a round or two and at the end of the draft.

 

[BenchBrawl]

I vote for limited trades - open it up for a round or two and at the end of the draft.

To be clear, this won't happen. Limited means a maximum amount of trades. Probably 2-5, TBD.

We don't have time to ponder such new scenarios with the deadline coming so soon.

 

[ImporterExporter]

I personally would like to see limited trades. 3 in total. That gives you more than a single bullet but also limits a GM to the point where they need to be exceptionally tactical when/if dealing.

And picks only. No trading of drafted players. We've been down that road before and it has often led to infighting.

That's my vote specially but obviously the will of majority rules supreme.

 

[Dr Pepper]

Voted no trades but see I'm still in the minority.

 

[BenchBrawl]

@Hawkey Town 18 I see you voted, are you playing?

 

[Hitru]

Should we agree on 3 trades for each team ( no players involved )? I think that's what most people voting for limited trading had in mind.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Should we agree on 3 trades for each team ( no players involved )? I think that's what most people voting for limited trading had in mind.

Yeah unless someone has a strong contention, we'll go with 3 trades.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Rules on trading:

1) 3 trades per team maximum
2) Cannot trade players
3) Swapping your full set of picks before you start drafting doesn't count toward the 3 trades limit
4) Please try to keep trades reasonable. Other GMs can veto the trade if they feel it is draft-breaking. Every trade should be given the OK by a couple of GMs.

If you STRONGLY disagree with one of these, speak now.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Playoffs format

At 19 teams we don't have the luxury of a perfect bracket, so I propose this:

4 divisions (5,5,5,4 teams)
Your division is determined by the lottery (you stay in the same division even if you swap your full set)
In the three division with 5 teams, 2 teams are picked AT RANDOM to play a preliminary round, with the goal of getting us to the perfect 16 teams structure for the next round.

Yeah, this is a luck for teams in the 4 teams division, but since this is randomly determined, everyone has an equal chance of catching this luck.

Thoughts?

 

[rmartin65]

I’d propose the 4 divisions, but in the 5-team divisions the bottom two teams have a play-in series instead of a random draw.

 

[BenchBrawl]

I’d propose the 4 divisions, but in the 5-team divisions the bottom two teams have a play-in series instead of a random draw.

My thinking was that picking them at random would yield more interest for this round, but I'm fine with your proposition.

 

[Professor What]

I’d propose the 4 divisions, but in the 5-team divisions the bottom two teams have a play-in series instead of a random draw.

I like this idea. It makes it feel more "skill-based" to me.