ATD2025 Draft Thread Part II

[VanIslander]

Most people don't work jobs they are passionate about.

Sad, but true.

Since uni 30 years ago I have only done two things: newspaper journalism and English language teaching.

My lack of savings (i love to travel every holiday opp; i pay $20 for strawberries in January) has me a tiny bit worried that my already-earned pension (c'mon $500 a month?) means i might have to work a job i am not passionate about someday.

 

[ImporterExporter]

Yeah, it's not even as much as the interview experience itself, I feel I can manage that, just that in my industry (product management in big tech) the interviews are so onerous and coached now and follow a playbook. In the past while we had to deal with silly riddles and stuff, it was more about you as the person, now it seems it's more about how well you've prepped with the system in style lol

Plus I think my experience in this industry has just made me super jaded, was easier to find some positives in the past, nowadays I'm just giving the vibe of: "I only do this for the easy money to pay the bills feed the kids buy my pretty wife fancy shoes" lol

Unfortunately, we're rapidly moving to an AI dominated work landscape, in many arenas.

What this does, is move the needle towards, what I like to call, "bean counting" analytics, where feelings, emotions, personal traits, etc are not entirely dismissed but calculated with "assessments" and as you said, "silly riddles" So you end up answering dozens of questions, oftentimes repeated questions, to gauge a person's emotional/moral value.

I've long since abandoned the idea of moving above middle management as I'm personally very big on work/life balance and to me, lower to middle management, and in some cases, even the ground floor, is the sweet spot for earnings+stress+workload. I am not interested in job titles or making a certain dollar figure. Some are driven towards those ends but I desire peace of mind, especially as I've aged. When I leave work, I want to largely be done with it. If I can make enough to pay the bills, and have a bit left over to invest/save, I'm perfectly fine.

 

[ImporterExporter]

Sad, but true.

Since uni 30 years ago I have only done two things: newspaper journalism and English language teaching.

My lack of savings (i love to travel every holiday opp; i pay $20 for strawberries in January) has me a tiny bit worried that my already-earned pension (c'mon $500 a month?) means i might have to work a job i am not passionate about someday.

Well I am glad you did make a career out of something you really enjoy. At 18 I was sure I would one day be in broadcast journalism, working for ESPN or some other major outlet.

While life and choices took me in other directions, I can't say that I'm all that upset about not venturing into the journalism field. At least, professionally speaking.

It's a dying medium, very sadly. Yellow journalism, pomp and awe reigns supreme. Free thought and expression is increasingly hard to find. What's passing for profitable writing today is pretty comical if you compare it to what is found in print even just 30-40 years ago.

If you want to ascend to a place like ESPN, you had better know how to play politics and be comfortable stepping over and on folks. And of course, that's largely true of any place of employment.

I detest "the game" so to speak.

 

[ImporterExporter]

I believe @nabby12 has until 3:29 PM est to pick and then @Hitru and @Professor What would be up.

 

[VanIslander]

It's a dying medium, very sadly. Yellow journalism, pomp and awe reigns supreme. Free thought and expression is increasingly hard to find. What's passing for profitable writing today is pretty comical if you compare it to what is found in print even just 30-40 years ago.

"Teacher, what is a newspaper?" I have heard twice.

 

[tabness]

Unfortunately, we're rapidly moving to an AI dominated work landscape, in many arenas.

What this does, is move the needle towards, what I like to call, "bean counting" analytics, where feelings, emotions, personal traits, etc are not entirely dismissed but calculated with "assessments" and as you said, "silly riddles" So you end up answering dozens of questions, oftentimes repeated questions, to gauge a person's emotional/moral value.

I've long since abandoned the idea of moving above middle management as I'm personally very big on work/life balance and to me, lower to middle management, and in some cases, even the ground floor, is the sweet spot for earnings+stress+workload. I am not interested in job titles or making a certain dollar figure. Some are driven towards those ends but I desire peace of mind, especially as I've aged. When I leave work, I want to largely be done with it. If I can make enough to pay the bills, and have a bit left over to invest/save, I'm perfectly fine.

100% with you on work life balance, the rat race, and climbing the corporate ladder, and that's the answer I give to people for why I've stuck around my current job and company for a while in an industry where the conventional wisdom is you should be job hopping every two years to "maximize earnings potential" lol

Really hope you nail this onsite and the job turns out perfect for what you want in terms of your time and effort (while also paying you great)!

 

[Dr Pepper]

"Teacher, what is a newspaper?" I have heard twice.

I always like how the universal symbol for "call" is still the the old-school landline corded receiver that we all had, something like this:

How many zoomers or next-gen kids have even seen one of these, let alone used one?

 

[ImporterExporter]

"Teacher, what is a newspaper?" I have heard twice.

Sounds like most truck drivers today who have absolutely no clue what a road atlas is.

 

[Professor What]

I believe @nabby12 has until 3:29 PM est to pick and then @Hitru and @Professor What would be up.

Well, I'm about an hour late seeing this, but we've got our pick lined up. Gallifrey selects Dan Boyle to finish out our defensive corps.

 

[nabby12]

Torpedo Ust-Kamenogorsk selects Red Dutton, D.

 

[ImporterExporter]

Three Rivers might have been gripping the handles pretty tightly as this versatile player kept dropping and are thrilled to see him available at 375.

Even though the Selke wasn't around for the first 2/3 of his career, this forever Bruin managed to sneak a few Selke finalist nods onto his resume (2nd and 3rd) at the tail end of his playing days. He was one of the best defensive wingers in hockey, including on the kill, a very hard checker, and played all over the F line, though LW was his primary position.

He stacks up very well with the all time greats at PK'ing.

Thread 'Special teams roles - 1960-2017'

Apr 23, 2010

As requested by Hockey Outsider, here are the players with the largest and smallest roles on special teams (minimum 500 GP) since 1967-68.

Edit: Updated to include 1959-60 through 2019-20

Essentially, PP% is the percentage of the team's power play goals for that the player was on the ice for in his career, and PK% is the percentage of the team's power play goals against that the player was on the ice for in his career. There is also an adjustment for games played to put it approximately on a per-game basis. This should be clear by looking at Mario Lemieux's numbers - he certainly didn't...

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• Forum: By The Numbers

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• Awarded a "Retroactive Selke" by Ultimate Hockey for 1976
• 3rd in Selke voting to Bob Gainey and Craig Ramsey in 1978
• 2nd in Selke voting to Bob Gainey in 1979
• Also received multiple Selke votes in 1980, 1981, 1982
• 1979 Coach's poll: Selected the 2nd best defensive forward after Gainey and the 3rd best penalty killer after Gainey and Ramsay
• Selected to play for the Canadian All Stars in the 1979 Challenge Cup

We suspect Punch will like this gentleman:

Don Marcotte, F

Apparently Lafleur called Marcotte the strongest checker he ever faced (in video)

 

[rmartin65]

I was going to pick a guy who I've drafted before and won a championship before with, but I sincerely believe this player was better relative to his peers and fills the same need-

Pud Glass, C (Rover)

The Victoria Daily Times, 26 December 1907, noted some hockey players' salaries from the previous season:

Hod Stuart was paid "between twelve and fifteen hundred" and "stayed at one of the best hotels in Montreal at the expense of the Wanderer Club"

"Next to Stuart came Pud Glass, who demanded $700 at thee start of the season and then held out for an extra $200"

"Erney Johnston [note- Moose Johnson, adding the "T" was quite common at this point] got his good $700, and UNDRAFTED $600. UNDRAFTED and Patrick, two of the best men in the game, were amongst the lowest paid, while the public has yet to be shown UNDRAFTED's bank book"

For 1908, the article said that UNDRAFTED, Pud Glass, and Arnie Johnston [once again, almost certainly Moose Johnson would earn "their sweet $900" for the season, and Wanderers will hand $1,000 over to UNDRAFTED" for his services"

Some other UNDRAFTEDs are mentioned as well.

The Ottawa Citizen, 21 March 1908 Page 17 wrote little bios for the champion Wanderers

"Glass, Roger, is a Wanderer practically all through, all his senior experience being with the champions. He has been a steady fixture on the team through three seasons in which the club has finished with the Stanley cup in its possession. Glass; great strength is his checking. His work does not show up, and frequently spectators see little to his play. Forwards and defence men on the other team, however, will tell you that Glass is one of the hardest in the game to get past. His checking back through center ice is also of great assistance to the defence"

The Montreal Gazette reported on 28 January 1910 Page 2

"'Pud' Glass, of Wanderers, is playing the best hockey of his career. In addition to being the best checking forward and all around worker, he is becoming some scorer"

The Montreal Star reported on 31 January 1910 Page 2

"Up in Renfrew, the other day, several of the members of the Renfrew hockey team, a number of them Montreal Shamrocks, and Bob Meldrum, referee, were discussing the problem of who is the best forward in the game: the most valuable man to any team. The vote resulted in favor of 'Pud' Glass, of the Wanderers. All were agreed that there were more spectacular forwards, and perhaps more effective scorers, but for all-round work, the Renfrew parliament decided on 'Pud' Glass'"

Note- Newsy Lalonde led the league in scoring that year.

The Daily Gleaner reported on 25 February 1911 Page 10

"If Pud Glass has speed he would be the best in the game. He can certainly play hockey and he breaks up dozens of rushes with his checking"

 

[Boreal01]

HC Lugano is proud to select Kevin Stevens, LW

 

[ImporterExporter]

373. nabby12 - Torpedo Ust-Kamenogorsk - Red Dutton, D
374. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis - Dan Boyle, D
375. ImporterExporter - Three Rivers AC - Don Marcotte, F
376. rmartin65 - Quebec HC - Pud Glass, C
377. Boreal01 - HC Lugano - Kevin Stevens, LW
378. Habsfan18 - Baltimore Clippers - Joe Primeau, C
379. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis - Zigmund Palffy, RW
380. Voight - Odessa Jackalopes

Round 20

381. Voight - Odessa Jackalopes
382. VanIslander - Savannah Ghost Pirates
383. Habsfan18 - Baltimore Clippers
384. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires
385. rmartin65 - Quebec HC
386. ImporterExporter - Three Rivers AC
387. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis
388. nabby12 - Torpedo Ust-Kamenogorsk
389. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals
390. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
391. Claude The Fraud - Ottawa 67's
392. tinyzombies - NDG Monarchs
393. tabness - Seattle Supersoakers
394. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds
395. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal
396. Boreal01 - HC Lugano
397. Dr Pepper - Dawson City Nuggets
398. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers
399. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
400. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas

 

[Habsfan18]

Baltimore selects the smooth-skating playmaker who was often described as an on-ice general, a guy who was known to bring out the best in his linemates, and the guy who was the defensive conscious of his line. His career was on the shorter side, but he made a lasting impression and is highly thought of by those who watched him play. Considered one of the top 100 players in hockey history by the panel that put together the THN list in 1997 (92nd) and a player often listed as one of the top 25 Maple Leafs of all-time.

Pleased to select Gentleman Joe Primeau, C

 

[Professor What]

Gallifrey will round out its regularly dressed skaters with a guy that was able to contribute in all three phases of the game, even strength, power play, and penalty kill. We welcome Zigmund Palffy.

 

[VanIslander]

Palffy was a RWer who played some LW in Long Island to be on the top line.

The VAST majority of his goals are from streaking in alone from the right side. I just watched a 6-minute career highlight video to confirm my memory (only 2 of the many goals came from the left side).

RW
or at best
RW/LW

...he didn't play enough on the left to be a 'W'.

 

[Hitru]

He will be playing RW for us and I agree that's the position he is best used.

 

[VanIslander]

Savannah selects right winger Frank Finnigan, the Stanley Cup winning role player for Ottawa and Toronto. "The Shawville Express" was the last of the old Senators franchise to score a goal after having played 363 career games for Ottawa, more than anyone else, his #8 retired and his banner raised in the new Ottawa Senators arena, located on Frank Finnigan Way. According to Trail of the Stanley Cup, he was a regular on Nighbor's line and was "the policeman of the line and took a lot of penalties" One of his 3 playoff goals in 1927 was the first of the Stanley Cup Final. The next season he led the team in goals and points. He would later be captain for two years before going to Toronto and contributing 5 playoff points in 7 games for his other Stanley Cup victory. He played in the NHL's first all-star game in 1934. Ultimate Hockey names him as the best defensive forward and best penalty killer of the 1930's.

'' I'd give anything to have a team of Finnys.''

''I'd label him as one of the finest right wingers in hockey. He could dish out the punishment and take it, too, as he flew down his wing. He was another straightaway skater. You could put a string out there and Finnigan would skate right up and down that line.''

... played a reliable two-way game, gave the Leafs a solid second line winger and an expert penalty killer. After playing a key role in the Leafs' 1932 Stanley Cup victory, Frank was returned to Ottawa.

... was nearly impossible to knock off of his feet. He was strong as an ox, having worked as a telephone lineman in Ottawa prior to turning pro with the Sens. Finnigan was an extraordinary defensive forward.

 

[Habsfan18]

Baltimore selects Tony Amonte, RW

 

[spitsfan24]

The Windsor Spitfires are proud to select D, Kevin Hatcher.

He will be an asset playing with Mike Grant at even strength to create a dangerous puck-rushing third pair (that's also responsible defensively), while likely contributing to the club's penalty kill as well.

Will PM next.

 

[Habsfan18]

The Windsor Spitfires are proud to select D, Kevin Hatcher.

He will be an asset playing with Mike Grant at even strength to create a dangerous puck-rushing third pair (that's also responsible defensively), while likely contributing to the club's penalty kill as well.

Will PM next.

Great pick here. I've drafted him a few times because he's a rare D in this range who can play competently on both special teams units, can hit like a truck, had a howitzer of a shot and was actually quite decent defensively as well. I would have taken him as my 7th D had Amonte not been there.

 

[Voight]

Odessa will select

RW #61 Mark Stone

Defenseman #20 Gary Suter

 

[ChiTownPhilly]

Doug Mohns please.

At the risk of giving hints concerning my age...

When I was a young boy, the only locally televised Black Hawk [we didn't say BlackHawk in those days] games were road games. The thought of the Wirtz family (and more than a few other owners) was that televising home games would harm seat-sales at Chicago Stadium.

So the only Mohns I ever saw- regularly- was Road Mohns. And it was... not great. So vulnerable to having his impact muted through matchups. The statistical record, such as it exists, indicates that my childhood eyes were not lying to me. {Career Home +/- (available from 1959-60 onward): +64. Career Road +/-: -165}

I didn't have an opportunity to see the best of Mohns [i.e.: Homey Mohns] on a regular basis. I suppose that unduly affects my assessment of him.

 

[rmartin65]

I’m at work. Skip me and I’ll make my pick later