ATD 2024 Draft Thread II

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ATD 2024: The 20th Anniversary Edition

The all-time draft is a what-if scenario, the counterfactual reasoning tool of the academic discipline of History. The greatest players of all time, from the amateur era to the NHL to the Soviet Union, Czechoslovakia, Sweden, WHA, etc are drafted BASED on their whole career. No peak vs. career; instead, peak and career, all considerations. A player who was injury prone will be no less so in an all-time competition.

GMs are encouraged to provide bio info like stats, quotes and/or comments when at the podium to announce their picks.

(NO MENTIONING UNDRAFTED PLAYERS!)

Note for new GMs:
Active players today in the 2023-2024 season are judged BASED on their career to date, meaning no projections of what he will do in the future, but instead: Imagine they suffered a freak career-ending accident the day you draft them.

The draft clock will begin Monday, February 5th at noon Eastern. The 1st round clock will be 24 hours long, dropping to 12 hours for round 2.

2). Time Limits.

24 hrs for round 1
12 for round 2
10 for rounds 3-10
8 for 11-14
6 for 15-20
4 for rest.

There will be 24 rounds, with 18 starting skaters, 2 goalies, a coach and three others for the bench. After the draft there will be votes tallied by an ex-ATDer or mod and a regular season standings list resulting. Then playoff match-ups.

Time Deductions
Voight -2 hour
The Macho Man -2 hour
Claude The Fraud -1 hour
ResilientBeast & rmartin65 -1 hour

Round 1:

1. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Bobby Orr, D
2. tony d - California Golden Seals - Gordie Howe, RW
3. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Wayne Gretzky, C
4. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Mario Lemieux, C
5. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Doug Harvey, D
6. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires- Jean Beliveau, C
7. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Raymond Bourque, D
8. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Nicklas Lidstrom, D
9. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Denis Potvin, D
10. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Eddie Shore, D
11. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Sidney Crosby, C
12. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Bobby Hull, LW
13. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Maurice Richard, RW
14. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Red Kelly, D/C
15. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Howie Morenz, C
16. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Connor McDavid, C
17. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Mark Messier, C
18. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Larry Robinson, D
19. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Dominik Hasek, G
20. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Patrick Roy, G
21. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Viacheslav Fetisov, D
22. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Jaromir Jagr, RW
23. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Guy Lafleur, RW

Round 2:


24. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Alexander Ovechkin, W
25. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Chris Chelios, D
26. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Sergei Makarov, RW
27. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Stan Mikita, C
28. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Brad Park, D
29. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Bobby Clarke, C
30. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Frank Nighbor, C
31. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Brian Leetch, D
32. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Paul Coffey, D
33. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Bryan Trottier, C
34. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Ted Lindsay, LW
35. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - King Clancy, D
36. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Jacques Plante, G
37. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Bill Cook, RW
38. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Joe Sakic, C
39. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Chris Pronger, D
40. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Phil Esposito, C
41. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Mike Bossy, RW
42. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Cyclone Taylor, C/D
43. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Al MacInnis, D
44. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Scott Stevens, D
45. tony d - California Golden Seals - Steve Yzerman, C
46. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Frank Boucher, C

Round 3:


47. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Charlie Conacher, RW
48. tony d - California Golden Seals - Sprague Cleghorn, D
49. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Zdeno Chara, D
50. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Pierre Pilote, D
51. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Martin Brodeur, G
52. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Earl Seibert, D
53. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Henri Richard, C
54. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Milt Schmidt, C
55. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Valeri Kharlamov, LW
56. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Peter Forsberg, C
57. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Tim Horton, D
58. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Glenn Hall, G
59. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Dit Clapper, D/RW
60. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Ken Dryden, G
61. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Bernie Geoffrion, RW
62. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Jari Kurri, RW
63. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Terry Sawchuk, G
64. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Newsy Lalonde, C
65. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Syl Apps, C
66. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Borje Salming, D
67. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Ted Kennedy, C
68. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Bill Gadsby, D
69. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Eddie Gerard, D/LW

Round 4:


70. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Victor Hedman, D
71. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Anatoli Firsov, LW
72. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Vladislav Tretiak, G
73. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Evgeni Malkin, C
74. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Duncan Keith, D
75. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Andy Bathgate, RW
76. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Cy Denneny, LW
77. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Drew Doughty, D
78. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Dickie Moore, LW
79. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Brett Hull, RW
80. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Serge Savard, D
81. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Elmer Lach, C
82. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Aurele Joliet, LW
83. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Sid Abel, C/LW
84. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Teemu Selanne, RW
85. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Boris Mikhailov, RW
86. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Erik Karlsson, D
87. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Mark Howe, D
88. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Nikita Kucherov, RW
89. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Jarome Iginla, RW
90. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Rob Blake, D
91. tony d - California Golden Seals - Sergei Fedorov, C
92. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Patrick Kane, RW

Round 5:


93. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Scott Niedermayer, D
94. tony d - California Golden Seals - Jack Stewart, D
95. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Pavel Bure, RW
96. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Rod Langway, D
97. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Guy Lapointe, D
98. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires- Toe Blake, LW
99. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Frank Mahovlich, LW
100. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Alex Delvecchio, LW/C
101. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Shea Weber, D
102. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Bill Quackenbush, D
103. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Marcel Pronovost, D
104. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Martin St. Louis, RW
105. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Frank Brimsek, G
106. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Georges Boucher, D
107. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Valeri Vasiliev, D
108. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Johnny Bucyk, LW
109. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Jacques Laperriere, D
110. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Georges Vezina, G
111. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Ivan Johnson, D
112. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Alexei Kasatonov, D
113. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Vladimir Krutov, LW
114. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Ebbie Goodfellow, D/C
115. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Norm Ullman, C

Round 6:


116. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Alexander Maltsev, C/RW
117. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Marcel Dionne, C
118. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Doug Bentley, LW/C
119. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Tommy Phillips, LW
120. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Brad Marchand, LW
121. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Hod Stuart, D
122. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Moose Johnson, D
123. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Bryan Hextall Sr, RW
124. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS- Joe Malone, C
125. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Brendan Shanahan, LW
126. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Harry Cameron, D
127. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Lionel Conacher, D
128. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Eric Lindros, C
129. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Charlie Gardiner, G
130. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Doug Gilmour, C
131. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - JC Tremblay, D
132. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Busher Jackson, LW
133. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Henrik Zetterberg, LW/C
134. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Sweeney Schriner, LW
135. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - John Leclair, LW
136. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Dave Keon, C
137. tony d - California Golden Seals - Syd Howe, LW/C
138. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Hooley Smith, C/RW

Round 7:


139. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Art Coulter, D
140. tony d - California Golden Seals - Turk Broda, G
141. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Patrice Bergeron, C
142. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Marian Hossa, RW
143. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Russell Bowie, C
144. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Ed Belfour, G
145. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Clint Benedict, G
146. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Bill Durnan, G
147. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Mark Recchi, RW
148. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Vladimir Martinec, RW
149. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Cam Neely, RW
150. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Bert Olmstead, LW
151. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Max Bentley, C
152. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Nathan Mackinnon, C
153. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Daniel Alfredsson, RW
154. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Emile Bouchard, D
155. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Babe Siebert, D/LW
156. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Paul Kariya, LW
157. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Pavel Datsyuk, C
158. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Rick Middleton, RW
159. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Jan Suchy, D
160. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Ron Francis, C
161. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Mike Modano, C

Round 8:


162. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Jonathan Toews, C
163. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Nels Stewart, C/LW
164. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Frantisek Pospisil, D
165. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Lanny McDonald, RW
166. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Bob Gainey, LW
167. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Sylvio Mantha, D
168. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Tom Johnson, D
169. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Patrik Elias, LW
170. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Larry Murphy, D
171. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Harry Howell, D
172. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Anze Kopitar, C
173. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Carl Brewer, D
174. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Bill White, D
175. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Baldy Northcott, LW
176. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Luc Robitaille, LW
177. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Bill Cowley, C
178. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Ken Reardon. D
179. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Frank Fredrickson, C
180. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Lester Patrick, D
181. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Michel Goulet, LW
182. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Alexander Yakushev, LW
183. tony d - California Golden Seals - Sergei Zubov, D
184. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Jamie Benn, LW

Round 9:


185. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Allan Stanley, D
186. tony d - California Golden Seals - Roy Conacher, LW
187. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Yvan Cournoyer, RW
188. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Rod Brind'amour, C/LW
189. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Paul Thompson, LW
190. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Brent Burns, D/RW
191. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Fern Flaman, D
192. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Frank Foyston, LW/C
193. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Alex Pietrangelo, D
194. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Peter Stastny, C
195. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Woody Dumart, LW
196. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Cecil Dillon, RW
197. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Frank McGee, C
198. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Scotty Bowman, coach
199. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Adam Oates, C
200. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Steven Stamkos, C/RW
201. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Bob Pulford, LW/C
202. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Reg Noble, LW/C
203. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Alf Smith, RW
204. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Cale Makar, D
205. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Al Arbour, Coach
206. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - George Armstrong, RW
207. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Jimmy Thomson, D

Round 10:


208. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Roman Josi, D
209. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Toe Blake, Coach
210. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Vladimir Petrov, C
211. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Weldy Young, D
212. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Claude Provost, RW
213. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Doug Wilson, D
214. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Didier Pitre, RW/D
215. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Bernie Parent, G
216. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Herb Gardiner, D
217. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Keith Tkachuk, LW
218. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Theoren Fleury, RW
219. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Jean Ratelle, C
220. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Babe Dye, RW
221. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Lester Patrick, Coach
222. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Vladimir Konstantinov, D
223. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Brad McCrimmon, D
224. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Rod Gilbert, RW
225. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Dany Heatley, W
226. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Harvey Pulford, D
227. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Johnny Bower, G
228. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Eric Desjardins, D
229. tony d - California Golden Seals - Steve Larmer, RW
230. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Joe Thornton, C

Round 11:

231. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Tommy Ivan, coach
232. tony d - California Golden Seals - Red Horner, D
233. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Bill Barber, LW
234. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Mats Sundin, C
235. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Marty Barry, C
236. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Jacques Lemaire, C
237. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Glen Sather, coach
238. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Helmuts Balderis, RW
239. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Tony Esposito, G
240. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Derian Hatcher, D
241. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Auston Matthews, C
242. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Lionel Hitchman, D
243. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - George Hay, LW
244. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Hap Day, D
245. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Hugh Lehman, G
246. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Jon Cooper, coach
247. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Punch Broadbent, RW
248. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Guy Carbonneau, C
249. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Jack Crawford, D
250. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Markus Naslund, LW
251. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Igor Larionov, C
252. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Corey Perry, RW
253. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Hap Day, Coach

Round 12:


254. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Andrei Vasilevskiy, G
255. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Jack Campbell, D
256. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Sergei Gonchar, D
257. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Cooney Weiland, C
258. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Mike Gartner, RW
259. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Fred Shero, coach
260. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Herbie Lewis, LW
261. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Art Ross, D
262. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Jere Lehtinen, RW/LW
263. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Rick Tocchet, RW
264. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Dave Taylor, RW
265. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Marty Pavelich, LW
266. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Pat Stapleton, D
267. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Jiri Holik, LW
268. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Ryan Getzlaf, C
269. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Anatoly Tarasov, coach
270. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Gordie Drillon, RW
271. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Mickey Mackay, C/RW
272. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Bernie Morris, RW/C
273. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Vladimir Lutchenko, D
274. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Billy Smith, G
275. tony d - California Golden Seals - Craig Ramsay, LW
276. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Gordon Roberts, RW

Round 13:


277. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Grant Fuhr, G
278. tony d - California Golden Seals - Tommy Gorman, coach
279. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Claude Giroux, C/LW
280. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Jack Walker, C/LW
281. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Tony Leswick, RW/LW
282. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires- Ryan Suter, D
283. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Duke Keats, C
284. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Johnny Gottselig, LW
285. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Ryan Kesler, C/RW
286. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Joe Simpson, D
287. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Dean Prentice, LW
288. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Vyacheslav Starshinov, C
289. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Alex Ragulin, D
290. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Darryl Sittler, C
291. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Pete Green, coach
292. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Nicklas Backstrom, C
293. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Don Marshall, LW/C
294. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Glenn Anderson, W
295. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Jeremy Roenick, C
296. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Ace Bailey, RW
297. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Vaclav Nedomansky, C/RW
298. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Bun Cook, LW
299. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Larry Aurie, RW

Round 14:


300. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - John Tonelli, LW
301. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Ralph Backstrom C
302. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Ed WestFall, RW
303. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Dick Irvin Sr, Coach
304. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Ilya Kovalchuk, W
305. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Brian Propp, LW
306. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Leon Draisaitl, C
307. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Bobby Rousseau, RW
308. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Esa Tikkanen, LW
309. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Clark Gillies, LW
310. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Cecil Hart, coach
311. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - John Madden, C/LW
312. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Mike Peca, C
313. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Neil Colville, C
314. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Kris Letang, D
315. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Pit Lepine, C
316. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Joe Klukay, W
317. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Bob Goldham, D
318. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Claude Lemieux, RW
319. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Dave Poulin, C
320. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Zigmund Palffy, RW
321. tony d - California Golden Seals - Moose Vasko, D
322. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Jim Schoenfeld, D

Round 15:


323. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Artemi Panarin, LW
324. tony d - California Golden Seals - Gilbert Perreault, C
325. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Pat Burns, coach
326. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Gus Mortson, D
327. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Mike Grant, D
328. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Smokey Harris, LW
329. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - David Pastrnak, RW
330. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Cy Wentworth, D
331. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Wayne Cashman, W
332. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Jimmy Ward, RW
333. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Adam Foote, D
334. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Teppo Numminen, D
335. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Sergei Kapustin, LW
336. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Flash Hollet, D
337. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Alexander Mogilny, RW
338. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Don Luce, C
339. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Babe Pratt, D
340. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Dale Hawerchuk, C
341. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Bobby Baun, D
342. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Joe Hall, D
343. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Eric Nesterenko, RW
344. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Nick Metz, LW/C
345. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Steve Shutt, LW

Round 16:


346. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Joe Pavelski, C/RW
347. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Henrik Lundqvist, G
348. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Red Dutton, D
349. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Dave Andreychuk, LW
350. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Ryan O'Reilly, C
351. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Frank Finnigan, RW
352. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Jack Darragh, RW
353. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Don Marcotte, F
354. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Kevin Lowe, D
355. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Mark Giordano, D
356. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Frank Patrick, D
357. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Joe Mullen, RW
358. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Dirk Graham, RW
359. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Kevin Hatcher, D
360. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Phil Housley, D
361. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Reggie Leach, RW
362. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Joel Otto, C
363. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Vincent Damphousse, LW/C
364. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Bobby Bauer, RW
365. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Zach Parise, LW
366. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Pat Lafontaine, C
367. tony d - California Golden Seals - Tony Amonte, RW
368. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Ken Mosdell, C

Round 17:


369. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Dan Boyle, D
370. tony d - California Golden Seals - Steve Kasper, C
371. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - John Carlson, D
372. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Art Ross, coach
373. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Punch Imlach, coach
374. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Barry Trotz, coach
375. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Mark Stone, RW
376. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Edgar Laprade, C
377. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Rene Robert, RW
378. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Matthew Tkachuk, LW
379. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Lloyd Cook, D
380. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Joel Quenneville, coach
381. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Allan Cameron, D
382. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Mitch Marner, RW
383. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Ted Green, D
384. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Bill Hajt, D
385. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Blake Wheeler, RW
386. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Rusty Crawford, F/D
387. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Ken Hitchcock, coach
388. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Jerry Toppazzini, RW
389. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Gary Roberts, LW
390. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Art Duncan, D
391. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Roy Worters, G

Round 18:


392. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Aleksander Barkov, C
393. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Brian Rolston, F
394. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Derek Sanderson, C
395. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Jiri Holecek, G
396. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Bob Nevin, RW
397. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Peter Bondra, RW
398. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Joe Nieuwendyk, C
399. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Kevin Stevens, LW
400. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Doug Jarvis, C
401. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Mats Naslund, LW/C
402. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - George Hainsworth, G
403. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Tim Kerr, RW
404. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Daniel Sedin, LW
405. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Connor Hellebuyck, G
406. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Darryl Sutter, coach
407. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Owen Nolan, RW
408. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Roberto Luongo, G
409. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Doug Mohns, D/LW
410. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Jack Marshall, D/C
411. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Brian Rafalski, D
412. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Gary Suter, D
413. tony d - California Golden Seals - Curtis Joseph, G
414. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Vic Stasiuk, W

Round 19:


415. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Blair Russel, LW
416. tony d - California Golden Seals - Jiri Bubla, D
417. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Ed Litzenberger, RW/C
418. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Vladimir Vikulov, C/RW
419. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Bob Bourne, F
420. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Gilles Tremblay, LW
421. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - PK Subban, D
422. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Dick Duff, LW
423. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Denis Savard, C
424. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Leo Reise Jr, D
425. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Roger Neilson, coach
426. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Rick Nash, LW
427. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Dolly Swift, F
428. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Brent Sutter, C
429. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Pekka Rinne, G
430. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Floyd Curry, RW
431. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Leo Boivin, D
432. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Ryan McDonagh, D
433. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Gump Worsley, G
434. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Butch Goring, C
435. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Mike Ramsey, D
436. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Eddie Oatman, RW/D
437. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Terry Harper, D

Round 20:


438. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Jim Neilson, D
439. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Rod Flett, D
440. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Tiny Thompson, G
441. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Vitali Davydov, D
442. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Mark Tinordi, D
443. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Ott Heller, D
444. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Gennadiy Tsygankov, D
445. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Brent Seabrook, D
446. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Patrick Sharp, W
447. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Brad Richards, C/RW
448. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Red Sullivan, C
449. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Brian Campbell, D
450. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Shane Doan, RW
451. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Dan Bain, C
452. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Taylor Hall, LW
453. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Jean-Guy Talbot, D
454. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Glen Harmon, D
455. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Ken Randall, RW/D
456. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Fleming Mackell, F
457. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Carey Price, G
458. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Wendel Clark, LW
459. tony d - California Golden Seals - Danny Gare, RW
460. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Hap Holmes, G

Round 21:


461. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - Scotty Davidson, F
462. tony d - California Golden Seals - Jimmy Watson, D
463. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Jonathan Quick, G
464. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Sid Smith, LW
465. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Si Griffis, D/C
466. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Eddie Giacomin, G
467. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Rick Martin, LW
468. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Harry Lumley, G
469. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Miikka Kiprusoff, G
470. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Phil Watson, C/RW
471. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Odie Cleghorn, RW
472. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Ben Bishop, G
473. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Marian Gaborik, RW
474. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Alec Connell, G
475. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Charlie Simmer, LW
476. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Tuukka Rask, G
477. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Terry O'Reilly, RW
478. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Dickie Boon, D
479. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Tommy Dunderdale, C
480. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Brian Sutter, LW
481. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Kirk Muller, LW/C
482. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Chuck Rayner, G
483. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Bob Davidson, LW

Round 22:


484. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Barry Beck, D
485. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Billy Reay, coach
486. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Kent Nilsson, C
487. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Rat Westwick, F
488. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Gabriel Landeskog, LW
489. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Tom Barrasso, G
490. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Peter Laviolette, coach
491. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Dustin Byfuglien, D/F
492. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Adam Fox, D
493. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Wally Stanowski, D
494. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Shirley Davidson, F
495. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Vincent Lecavalier, C
496. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Marc-André Fleury, G
497. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Andrei Markov, D
498. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Bernie Federko, C
499. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Wade Redden, D
500. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Henrik Sedin, C
501. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Ernie Russell, RW/C
502. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Bob Johnson, coach
503. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Pierre Turgeon, C (Dropped for Dale Hunter)
504. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Justin Williams, RW
505. tony d - California Golden Seals - Patrick Marleau, LW/C
506. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmead Lunas - Lennart Svedberg, D

Round 23:


507. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmeade Lunas - David Backes, C/RW
508. tony d - California Golden Seals - John Tavares, C
509. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Milan Novy, C
510. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Robert Svehla, D
511. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Percy LeSueur, G
512. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Sandis Ozolinsh, D
513. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Willie Mitchell, D
514. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Arkady Chernyshev, coach
515. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Steve Duchesne, D
516. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Bobby Holik, C
517. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Camille Henry, LW/C
518. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Albert Leduc, D
519. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Fred Higginbotham, D
520. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Jordan Staal, C/RW
521. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Johnny Gaudreau, LW
522. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Trevor Linden, C/RW
523. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Joe Primeau, C
524. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Ken Hodge, RW
525. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Bucko McDonald, D
526. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Viktor Kuzkin, D
527. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Randy Carlyle, D
528. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Marty Walsh, C
529. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Walt Tkaczuk, C

Round 24:


530. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Réjean Houle, F
531. ResilientBeast & rmartin65 - Montreal Victorias - Walter Smaill, D/LW/C
532. Claude The Fraud - Cape Breton Eagles - Pat Verbeek, RW
533. jigglysquishy - Regina Capitals - Bob McDougall, F
534. Boreal01 - Cleveland Barons - Sebastian Aho, LW/C
535. tinyzombies - Vagabonds de Montréal - Alex Kovalev, RW
536. Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Broome Dusters - Rogatien Vachon, G
537. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Bobby Rowe, D/RW
538. Hitru & Professor What - Gallifrey TARDIS - Kris Draper, C
539. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Gaye Stewart, F
540. BenchBrawl - Canadiens de Montréal - Chauncey Kirby, F
541. The Macho King - Richmond Renegades - Ondrej Palat, LW
542. Transplanted Caper - Sydney Millionaires - Hamby Shore, D
543. nabby12 - Winnipeg Falcons - Brady Tkachuk, LW
544. Voight - Lone Star Brahmas - Doug Weight, C
545. Hockey Stathead - Detroit Vipers - Ron Ellis, RW
546. Chet Donnelly - Emerald Flowsion - Mikko Rantanen, RW
547. spitsfan24 - Windsor Spitfires - Eric Staal, C/LW
548. ImporterExporter & Johnny Engine - Trois Rivieres AC - Jack Adams, C/LW
549. MVP of West Hollywd - Drumheller Dinosaurs - Phil Kessel, RW
550. GKJ - Philadelphia Firebirds - Carol Vadnais, D
551. tony d - California Golden Seals - Todd Bertuzzi, W
552. Dr John Carlson - Hogsmead Lunas - Mitch Korn, goalie coach

@Dr John Carlson
@tony d
@GKJ
@MVP of West Hollywd
@ImporterExporter & @Johnny Engine
@spitsfan24
@Chet Donnelly
@Hockey Stathead
@Voight
@nabby12
@Transplanted Caper
@The Macho King
@BenchBrawl
@Leaf Lander
@Hitru & @Professor What
@BraveCanadian
@Habsfan18 & @VanIslander
@tinyzombies
@Boreal01
@jigglysquishy
@Claude The Fraud
@ResilientBeast & @rmartin65
@Hawkey Town 18
 
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ATD 2024 Voting Breakdown

My standard method (as discussed before) to determine the actual result of a series is to look at the median score. For example:

Torontottawa Maple Senators vs Albertan Flame Oilers
Ballot 1: 4-3
Ballot 2: 4-3
Ballot 3: 4-3
Ballot 4: 4-1
Ballot 5: 2-4
Votes: Maple Senators 4, Flame Oilers 1. Median score: 4-3.

This year more ballots than in prior ATDs didn't give a specific score but only named the winner of the series. Hence the many 4-x and x-4 scores in the overview below.


FIRST PLAYOFF ROUND (PRE-PLAYOFF)

Jim Robson Division

Hogsmeade Lunas vs Lone Star Brahmas
@Boreal01: 2-4
@BraveCanadian: 1-4
@Dr John Carlson: –
@Habsfan18: 4-2
@Hawkey Town 18: 4-1
@Hitru: 4-x
@Hockey Stathead: 4-x
@jigglysquishy: x-4
@MVP of West Hollywd: 4-x
@Nabby 12: 4-2
@Professor What: 4-3
@rmartin65: 4-2
@tony d: 4-3
@Transplanted Caper: 3-4
Votes: Hogsmeade 9, Lone Star 4. Median score: Disputable with all the x-votes; either 4-3 or 4-2. I went with 4-2.

Philadelphia Firebirds vs Cape Breton Eagles
@Boreal01: 4-2
@BraveCanadian: 4-2
@Dr John Carlson: 4-x
@Habsfan18: 4-3
@Hawkey Town 18: 4-3
@Hitru: 4-x
@Hockey Stathead: x-4
@jigglysquishy: 4-x
@MVP of WestHollywd: 4-x
@Nabby 12: 3-4
@Professor What: 4-2
@rmartin65: 4-2
@tony d: 3-4
@Transplanted Caper: 4-2
Votes: Philadelphia 11, Cape Breton 3. Median score: 4-2.

Foster Hewitt Division

Winnipeg Falcons vs Vagabonds de Montréal
@Boreal01: 1-4
@BraveCanadian: 4-2
@Dr John Carlson: 4-x
@Habsfan18: 4-2
@Hawkey Town 18: 4-3
@Hitru: 4-x
@Hockey Stathead: 4-x
@jigglysquishy: 4-x
@MVP of West Hollywd: 4-x
@Nabby 12: –
@Professor What: 4-3
@rmartin65: 4-3
@tony d: 3-4
@Transplanted Caper: 4-2
Votes: Winnipeg 11, Montréal 2. Median score: Again disputable; either 4-3 or 4-2. I opted for 4-2.

California Golden Seals vs Toronto Maple Leafs
@Boreal01: 4-3
@Brave Canadian: 3-4
@Dr John Carlson: 4-x
@Habsfan18: 4-3
@Hawkey Town 18: 4-3
@Hitru: 4-x
@Hockey Stathead: x-4
@jigglysquishy: x-4
@MVP of West Hollywd: 4-x
@Nabby 12: 4-1
@Professor What: 4-3
@rmartin65: 4-1
@tony d: –
@Transplanted Caper: 3-4
Votes: California 9, Toronto 4. Median score: Between 4-3 and 4-1, so I went with 4-2.

Bob Cole Division

Gallifrey TARDIS vs Emerald Flowsion
@Boreal01: 4-3
@BraveCanadian: 4-3
@Dr John Carlson: 4-x
@Habsfan18: 4-2
@Hawkey Town 18: 4-2
@Hockey Stathead: 4-x
@Hitru: –
@jigglysquishy: 4-x
@MVP of West Hollywd: 4-x
@Nabby 12: 1-4
@Professor What: –
@rmartin65: 2-4
@tony d: 4-2
@Transplanted Caper: 3-4
Votes: Gallifrey 10, Emerald 3. Median score: Hard to determine with all the x-votes, but arguably between 4-3 and 4-2. Decided for 4-2.

Cleveland Barons vs Regina Capitals
@Boreal01: –
@BraveCanadian: 4-3
@Dr John Carlson: 4-x
@Habsfan18: 3-4
@Hawkey Town 18: 4-2
@Hitru: x-4
@Hockey Stathead: 4-x
@jigglysquishy: –
@MVP of West Hollywd: 4-x
@Nabby 12: 2-4
@Professor What: 3-4
@rmartin65: 3-4
@tony d: 3-4
@Transplanted Caper: 3-4
Votes: Cleveland 5, Regina 6. Median score: Half of the voters agreed this series would go to seven games, 3-4.

Rene Lecavalier Division

Drumheller Dinosaurs vs Guelph Platers
@Boreal01: 3-4
@BraveCanadian: –
@Dr John Carlson: 4-x
@Habsfan18: 4-2
@Hawkey Town 18: 4-1
@Hitru: x-4
@Hockey Stathead: 4-x
@jigglysquishy: 4-x
@MVP of West Hollywd: –
@Nabby 12: 2-4
@Professor What: 4-2
@rmartin65: 2-4
@tony d: 4-2
@Transplanted Caper: 4-2
Votes: Drumheller 8, Guelph 4. Median score: It's easy to argue for 4-2 here.


To be continued.
 

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I'm glad to hear that, thank you very much!



Thanks! In case anyone is wondering what BB is referring to: back in February I got caught under the wheel of a truck while riding my bicycle.

The truck first drove over the bicycle... then, realizing something was wrong, the driver hit the breaks... but the truck didn't come to a standstill before it was parked on my leg. It remained in this position for a few moments before pulling back, which meant that it drove over my leg a second time... but simultaneously it got me free. All this I experienced with full consciousness. The first wave of pain, the situation of being stuck under the wheel and crying for help, the second wave of pain as the truck pulled back.

To make a long story (a bit more than a month in hospital) short: I was incredibly lucky I didn't get permanently disabled or even killed that day. What's more, not a single bone or nerve was permanently damaged, to my surprise and the surprise of the doctors.

Some photos (in spoiler tags, because not everyone might like to see them):

My bicyle afterwards
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Glad you're well!
 

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When McDavid was picked before Messier that was the official death of the ATD.

The reason bios are used is because they are supposed to the real players, not some fantasy video game version. As a history professor said to me "Being for size adjustments is an extremely uneducated opinion".
 
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BenchBrawl

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When McDavid was picked before Messier that was the official death of the ATD.

The reason bios are used is because they are supposed to the real players, not some fantasy video game version. As a history professor said to me "Being for size adjustments is an extremely uneducated opinion".

The team that picked McDavid before Messier got ranked dead last. How does that mean the "death of the ATD"?

Seems like things went exactly as they should.
 
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McDavid is clearly better than Messier ever was.. as the guy who had his worst ATD outcome in all the drafts I have done, I stand by it. I’m principal Skinner in this situation lol. Everyone else was wrong. 😀
 
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McDavid is clearly better than Messier ever was.. as the guy who had his worst ATD outcome in all the drafts I have done, I stand by it. I’m principal Skinner in this situation lol. Everyone else was wrong. 😀
I'm with you, McD over Mess any day of the week. He has done enough at this point.
 
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VanIslander

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I'm with you, McD over Mess any day of the week. He has done enough at this point.
1. In terms of playoffs and big game moments?
2. In terms of play away from the puck.
3. In terms of leadership?
4. Messier retired 2nd in NHL career scoring as a cherry on top.

They are both infield of the ballpark, but one is the shortstop and the other the pitcher.

A good mole sauce takes a long while. Give it more time.
 

Hitru

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As an overall player. Also I don't find the narrative that McD is bad in playoffs to be true, he has 2 great runs and 1 smythe.

I do agree Mess brings physicality and leadership though, no questions there.
 

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As an overall player. Also I don't find the narrative that McD is bad in playoffs to be true, he has 2 great runs and 1 smythe.
McD has been great in the playoffs, just Mess has repeatedly been fantastic!

From his 1984 Conn Smythe through dynasty performances, a leader in NHL playoff scoring in captaining Edmonton to his 5th cup in 1990, to his multiple heroics in NY in 1994.

Messier has been greater than McDavid. But it's getting close. More history to be made on this topic.
 
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Listening to OverDrive yesterday and Pierre LeBrun said he feels McDavid will eventually surpass Gretzky as the GOAT by the end of his career. I think he's getting ahead of himself but hey.. Then McDavid went and did this that night.. so we'll see!

 

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Jim Robson Division

Broome Dusters vs Philadelphia Firebirds
@Boreal: 1-4
@Dr John Carlson: 4-x
@Hawkey Town 18: 4-2
@Hockey Stathead: x-4
@Hitru: 4-x
@MVP West Hollywd: 4-x
@jigglysquishy: 4-x
@nabby12: 4-2
@Professor What: 4-3
@rmartin65: 3-4
@spitsfan24: 4-x
@The Macho King: 4-3
@tony d: 3-4
Votes: Hogsmeade 9, Philadelphia 4. Median score: Disputable with all the x-votes; either 4-3 or 4-2. I went with 4-2.

Montreal Victorias vs Hogsmeade Lunas
@Boreal: 3-4
@Dr John Carlson: –
@Hawkey Town 18: 3-4
@Hockey Stathead: x-4
@Hitru: x-4
@MVP West Hollywd: x-4
@jigglysquishy: x-4
@nabby12: 1-4
@Professor What: 4-3
@rmartin65: –
@spitsfan24: x-4
@The Macho King: 2-4
@tony d: 4-3
Votes: Victorias 2, Hogsmeade 9. Median score: Very disputable; both 2-4 and 1-4 would have seemed fair to me. The difference in votes made me pick 1-4.

Foster Hewitt Division

Chicago Shamrocks vs. California Golden Seals
@Boreal: 4-2
@Dr John Carlson: 4-x
@Hawkey Town 18: –
@Hockey Stathead: x-4
@Hitru: x-4
@MVP West Hollywd: x-4
@jigglysquishy: x-4
@nabby12: 4-3
@Professor What: 2-4
@rmartin65: 4-3
@spitsfan24: 4-x
@The Macho King: 2-4
@tony d: –
Votes: Chicago 5, California 6. Median score: A very close series, so 3-4 was the fair choice. I added that several games went to OT to indicate that this was a real tight one.

Windsor Spitfires vs. Winnipeg Falcons
@Boreal: 4-3
@Dr John Carlson: 4-x
@Hawkey Town 18: 4-3
@Hockey Stathead: x-4
@Hitru: 4-x
@MVP West Hollywd: x-4
@jigglysquishy: 4-x
@nabby12: –
@Professor What: 2-4
@rmartin65: 2-4
@spitsfan24: –
@The Macho King: 4-2
@tony d: 4-2
Votes: Windsor 7, Winnipeg 4. Median score: An easy case for 4-3.

Bob Cole Division

Trois Rivieres AC vs. Regina Capitals
@Boreal: 4-2
@Dr John Carlson: 4-x
@Hawkey Town 18: 4-1
@Hockey Stathead: 4-x
@Hitru: 4-x
@MVP West Hollywd: 4-x
@jigglysquishy: –
@nabby12: 4-3
@Professor What: 4-3
@rmartin65: 4-3
@spitsfan24: 4-x
@The Macho King: 4-2
@tony d: 3-4
Votes: Trois Rivieres 11, Regina 1. Median score: Once again the many x-votes left it open, but the votes were too one-sided to go with anything lower than 4-1 here.

Sydney Millionaires vs. Gallifrey TARDIS
@Boreal: 4-0
@Dr John Carlson: x-4
@Hawkey Town 18: 3-4
@Hockey Stathead: 4-x
@Hitru: –
@MVP West Hollywd: 4-x
@jigglysquishy: 4-x
@nabby12: 4-2
@Professor What: –
@rmartin65: 4-2
@spitsfan24: x-4
@The Macho King: 4-1
@tony d: 2-4
Votes: Sydney 7, Gallifrey 4. Median score: To be honest, a good case for 4-2 could be made, but I went with 4-3 because the votes were more similiar to the Windsor vs Winnipeg series than to the Hogsmeade vs Philadelphia series.

Rene Lecavalier Division

Canadiens de Montreal vs. Drumheller Dinosaurs
@Boreal: 4-2
@Dr John Carlson: 4-x
@Hawkey Town 18: 4-3
@Hockey Stathead: 4-x
@Hitru: 4-x
@MVP West Hollywd: –
@jigglysquishy: 4-x
@nabby12: 4-3
@Professor What: 4-3
@rmartin65: 4-2
@spitsfan24: 4-x
@The Macho King: 3-4
@tony d: 2-4
Votes: Canadiens 10, Drumheller 2. Median score: Too many x-votes, but the votes were one-sided enough for 4-1.

Detroit Vipers vs. Richmond Renegades
@Boreal: 4-1
@Dr John Carlson: x-4
@Hawkey Town 18: 4-3
@Hockey Stathead: –
@Hitru: x-4
@MVP West Hollywd: 4-x
@jigglysquishy: x-4
@nabby12: 4-2
@Professor What: 2-4
@rmartin65: 2-4
@spitsfan24: x-4
@The Macho King: –
@tony d: 4-3
Votes: Detroit 5, Richmond 6. Median score: Like in the Chicago vs California series, therefore 3-4 with multiple OT games.


To be continued.
 
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Hitru

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I don't see a path for McD to beat Grez, just too much behind at the same age and losing scoring race to "mediocre" players during his prime does not help.

I see him firmly behind Grez, Lemieux and Orr in peak/prime.
 

BraveCanadian

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I don't see a path for McD to beat Grez, just too much behind at the same age and losing scoring race to "mediocre" players during his prime does not help.

I see him firmly behind Grez, Lemieux and Orr in peak/prime.

Yeah I’m pretty confident McDavid is number 5, but if he ages really well then knocking off one of Howe/Lemieux/Orr isn’t out of the question for me.
 
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Hitru

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I don't think we will have that discussion but I guess it can't be ruled out yeat.
 

Theokritos

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Let's wrap up the voting breakdown with this post.


DIVISIONAL FINALS

Jim Robson Division

Broome Dusters vs Hogsmeade Lunas
@BenchBrawl: 4-3
@Boreal01: 1-4
@Habsfan18: --
@Hitru: x-4
@Hockey Stathead: x-4
@ImporterExporter: 4-3
@nabby12: 4-3
@Professor What: 4-3
@rmartin65: 2-4
@spitsfan24: 4-2
@tinyzombies: 4-3
@tony d: 4-3
Votes: Broome 7, Hogsmeade 4. Median score: Clearly 4-3.

Foster Hewitt Division

Windsor Spitfires vs California Golden Seals
@BenchBrawl: 4-3
@Boreal01: 4-1
@Habsfan18: 3-4
@Hitru: 4-x
@Hockey Stathead: 4-x
@ImporterExporter: 3-4
@nabby12: 4-1
@Professor What: 4-2
@rmartin65: 4-3
@spitsfan24: --
@tinyzombies: 4-3
@tony d: --
Votes: Windsor 8, California 2. Median score: 50% of the voters though the series would go to seven games, therefore 4-3.

Bob Cole Division

Trois Rivieres AC vs Sydney Millionaires
@BenchBrawl: 4-2
@Boreal01: 3-4
@Habsfan18: 4-2
@Hitru: 4-x
@Hockey Stathead: 4-x
@ImporterExporter: --
@nabby12: 2-4
@Professor What: 4-3
@rmartin65: 4-2
@spitsfan24: 4-2
@tinyzombies: 3-4
@tony d: 4-3
Votes: Trois Rivieres 8, Sydney 3. Median score: Could have gone 4-2 or 4-3.

Rene Lecavalier Division

Canadiens de Montreal vs Richmond Renegades
@BenchBrawl: --
@Boreal01: 4-2
@Habsfan18: 4-3
@Hitru: x-4
@Hockey Stathead: x-4
@ImporterExporter: 4-3
@nabby12: 4-2
@Professor What: 4-3
@rmartin65: 4-2
@spitsfan24: 4-3
@tinyzombies: 3-4
@tony d: 2-4
Votes: Canadiens 7, Richmond 4. Median score: Hard to argue with 4-3.


CONFERENCE FINALS

Jim Coleman Conference

Broome Dusters vs Windsor Spitfires
@BenchBrawl: 4-3
@Boreal01: 1-4
@Dr John Carlson: x-4
@GKJ: x-4
@Habsfan18: --
@Hockey Stathead: x-4
@Hitru: x-4
@ImporterExporter: 4-3
@jigglysquishy: 4-x
@nabby12: 1-4
@Professor What: 3-4
@rmartin65: 1-4
@spitsfan24: --
@tony d: 3-4
@VanIslander: --
Votes: Broome 2, Windsor 10. Median score: Hard to say with all the x-votes. I went with 2-4 instead of 1-4.


Red Fisher Conference

Trois Rivieres AC vs Canadiens de Montreal
@BenchBrawl: --
@Boreal01: 3-4
@Dr John Carlson: x-4
@GKJ: x-4
@Habsfan18: 4-3
@Hockey Stathead: 4-x
@Hitru: 4-x
@ImporterExporter: --
@jigglysquishy: 4-x
@nabby12: 3-4
@Professor What: 4-3
@rmartin65: 3-4
@spitsfan24: 4-2
@tony d: 4-2
@VanIslander: 3-4
Votes: Trois Rivieres 7, Canadiens 6. Median score: Obviously 4-3.


ATD FINAL

Trois Rivieres AC vs Windsor Spitfires
@BenchBrawl: 4-3
@Boreal01: 3-4
@Dr John Carlson: x-4
@GKJ: 1-4
@Habsfan18: 4-2
@Hockey Stathead: x-4
@Hitru: 4-x
@jigglysquishy: 4-x
@nabby12: 2-4
@Professor What: 4-3
@rmartin65: 4-3
@tinyzombies: 2-4
@tony d: 4-3
Votes: Trois Rivieres 7, Windsor 6. Median score: Another very close series, clearly 4-3.
 

tinyzombies

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Let's wrap up the voting breakdown with this post.


DIVISIONAL FINALS

Jim Robson Division

Broome Dusters vs Hogsmeade Lunas
@BenchBrawl: 4-3
@Boreal01: 1-4
@Habsfan18: --
@Hitru: x-4
@Hockey Stathead: x-4
@ImporterExporter: 4-3
@nabby12: 4-3
@Professor What: 4-3
@rmartin65: 2-4
@spitsfan24: 4-2
@tinyzombies: 4-3
@tony d: 4-3
Votes: Broome 7, Hogsmeade 4. Median score: Clearly 4-3.

Foster Hewitt Division

Windsor Spitfires vs California Golden Seals
@BenchBrawl: 4-3
@Boreal01: 4-1
@Habsfan18: 3-4
@Hitru: 4-x
@Hockey Stathead: 4-x
@ImporterExporter: 3-4
@nabby12: 4-1
@Professor What: 4-2
@rmartin65: 4-3
@spitsfan24: --
@tinyzombies: 4-3
@tony d: --
Votes: Windsor 8, California 2. Median score: 50% of the voters though the series would go to seven games, therefore 4-3.

Bob Cole Division

Trois Rivieres AC vs Sydney Millionaires
@BenchBrawl: 4-2
@Boreal01: 3-4
@Habsfan18: 4-2
@Hitru: 4-x
@Hockey Stathead: 4-x
@ImporterExporter: --
@nabby12: 2-4
@Professor What: 4-3
@rmartin65: 4-2
@spitsfan24: 4-2
@tinyzombies: 3-4
@tony d: 4-3
Votes: Trois Rivieres 8, Sydney 3. Median score: Could have gone 4-2 or 4-3.

Rene Lecavalier Division

Canadiens de Montreal vs Richmond Renegades
@BenchBrawl: --
@Boreal01: 4-2
@Habsfan18: 4-3
@Hitru: x-4
@Hockey Stathead: x-4
@ImporterExporter: 4-3
@nabby12: 4-2
@Professor What: 4-3
@rmartin65: 4-2
@spitsfan24: 4-3
@tinyzombies: 3-4
@tony d: 2-4
Votes: Canadiens 7, Richmond 4. Median score: Hard to argue with 4-3.


CONFERENCE FINALS

Jim Coleman Conference

Broome Dusters vs Windsor Spitfires
@BenchBrawl: 4-3
@Boreal01: 1-4
@Dr John Carlson: x-4
@GKJ: x-4
@Habsfan18: --
@Hockey Stathead: x-4
@Hitru: x-4
@ImporterExporter: 4-3
@jigglysquishy: 4-x
@nabby12: 1-4
@Professor What: 3-4
@rmartin65: 1-4
@spitsfan24: --
@tony d: 3-4
@VanIslander: --
Votes: Broome 2, Windsor 10. Median score: Hard to say with all the x-votes. I went with 2-4 instead of 1-4.


Red Fisher Conference

Trois Rivieres AC vs Canadiens de Montreal
@BenchBrawl: --
@Boreal01: 3-4
@Dr John Carlson: x-4
@GKJ: x-4
@Habsfan18: 4-3
@Hockey Stathead: 4-x
@Hitru: 4-x
@ImporterExporter: --
@jigglysquishy: 4-x
@nabby12: 3-4
@Professor What: 4-3
@rmartin65: 3-4
@spitsfan24: 4-2
@tony d: 4-2
@VanIslander: 3-4
Votes: Trois Rivieres 7, Canadiens 6. Median score: Obviously 4-3.


ATD FINAL

Trois Rivieres AC vs Windsor Spitfires
@BenchBrawl: 4-3
@Boreal01: 3-4
@Dr John Carlson: x-4
@GKJ: 1-4
@Habsfan18: 4-2
@Hockey Stathead: x-4
@Hitru: 4-x
@jigglysquishy: 4-x
@nabby12: 2-4
@Professor What: 4-3
@rmartin65: 4-3
@tinyzombies: 2-4
@tony d: 4-3
Votes: Trois Rivieres 7, Windsor 6. Median score: Another very close series, clearly 4-3.
Glad I was not off the board with any of my votes. Did my impartial best, don't hold a grudge!
 

ImporterExporter

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We should have been doing public voting for ages. Honestly, I think it would have helped ease a lot of the tension that transpired, often at the height of the ATD. That was a big sticking point for a lot of folks and I honestly never understood why anyone would have wanted it kept from being posted but I'm glad we finally got here.

It's easy for me to go "oh look a couple of folks continually had Johnny/I getting swept" but the flip side to that coin is that others also had us usually winning handedly. So I think the voting shows a nice balance of views from a myriad of voters and overall most voters had a lot of series closely matched, which, is the correct call, especially once you get past the opening round of match ups.

I think the next step is maybe getting some post voting discussion, just to see where people's heads were at and why they liked one team so convincingly over the other, but that might be a stretch these days given we have less folks involved and I think while we still have a real solid group of veterans, along with new additions, the post draft process and analysis is not as intense as it once was, which is not necessarily a bad thing by any means.

Very much appreciate @Theokritos for continually stepping up and handling the math at the back end of these drafts, and his commentary/participation along the way. Hope life has calmed down and improved for you over the last few months!

Hoping we might see a few more additions for 2025!

Speaking of which, can you folks believe we're almost at that magical time again?
 

tinyzombies

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Happy Holidays all
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