ATD 2020 Draft Thread IV

[Hawkey Town 18]

Just woke up, I’ll try to pick in the next hour

 

[Hawkey Town 18]

Chicago selects Viktor Shalimov, RW

 

[ResilientBeast]

Gerry Cheevers, G will backup Martin Brodeur this season

 

[ResilientBeast]

Mikko Koivu, C

 

[Habsfan18]

Any updates on @The Macho Man? I see he hasn’t posted since Thursday morning and he is about to be at his 8th skipped pick. Obviously real life takes priority here and with how crazy things are going in the world right now I hope everything is alright.

Voight is MIA, papershoes is a few picks behind again but he seems to at least come in occasionally to make them up. Glitch still has a skipped pick from the other day.

Hope everyone’s doing alright.

 

[ImporterExporter]

Work has been relentless. Part of being a Sr Account Manager in the transportation industry at the present time. Sorry for the delay

Saskatoon will add some "beef" to the D corps!

Dustin Byfuglien, D/W

 

[Dreakmur]

Work has been relentless. Part of being a Sr Account Manager in the transportation industry at the present time. Sorry for the delay

Saskatoon will add some "beef" to the D corps!

Dustin Byfuglien, D/W

Damn. Had him and Shalimov pegged for my next set of pucks.

Big Buff is a really good even strength point producer, and devastating physical player.

 

[Habsfan18]

Shouldn’t be much longer guys. Just waiting on Van to make sure we’re still on the same page.

 

[VanIslander]

Baltimore selects Tod Sloan, the fiery rookie right winger on the Kennedy line who led all Leaf forwards in penalties (105), in goals (31 - 3rd in the NHL) then was top-3 in team scoring in their 1951 Stanley Cup championship, scoring 9 points in 11 games, tying the lead in even strength goals with 4, one of them with seconds left to tie the playoff game in which his teammate scored the OT cup-clincher, his 7 points in the final series against the Habs was the most of all Leafs. In his sophomore year "Slinker", as he was nicknamed, scored 25 goals (8th in the NHL), leading the league in powerplay goals. Afterwards, he was moved back to his natural position of center between Duff and Armstrong and Sloan became the NHL 2nd team all star center, the Hart trophy runner-up to Beliveau, Sloan leading the NHL in even strength goals (28), 4th in league goals (37 - a Leafs record at the time), having before and after that been also 8th in goals and assists. He also recorded his third 100 PIM season, known as a tough hard worker who checked as hard as he received. Despite several great years in Toronto, the alternate captain was shipped to Chicago because he was helping organize a players' union. Immediately, as a Blackhawk, Sloan had another great year, top 10 in goals and points, 2nd in team scoring. The next year he centered the second line and scored 20 goals, 2nd to Bobby Hull in team goals. Then in 1961 he won the Stanley Cup again as a 33 year old third liner, retiring thereafter. Sloan is #38 of the Top 100 Leafs. In 2020 he remains top 10 in career scoring by a Leaf center.

"He was a hardworking player and George and I were happy to play with Tod... His finesse with the puck... he took the puck through the defence and had good moves... was good around the net. He could do things with the puck and do things that other guys couldn't do... a good guy who stood up for the players... he was a leader..."

On one scouting trip, Maple Leafs coach Hap Day is said to have remarked that Sloan had the hardest, most accurate shot he'd seen. ... Hap Day, compared Sloan to sharpshooters Carson Cooper and Bill Cook. He told reporters, "Coop and Bill could pick their spots at any time and never be a fraction off their target...and Sloan is the nearest thing to them I've seen."

"Todd is his own boss. He does what he likes with the puck. It took a few years to discover that the best way to handle him was to leave him alone."

 

[MadArcand]

After much deliberation, Hurricanes select Ken Daneyko, D

Could you please PM next? Gotta crash.

 

[tinyzombies]

Done.

 

[Habsfan18]

Done.

You’re up since Macho is being auto skipped.

 

[tinyzombies]

He stepped in to the Isles’ lineup as if he had played in the NHL for years, providing puckhandling and passing that belied his lack of North American experience. - NHL.com
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Personal Info:​

Height: 6'1"
Weight: 189lbs
Shoots: Left
Birth: December 22, 1954 Umea, Sweden
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Voting Records:​

Norris - 10, 15
Post Season All Star - 9, 13, 14, 18
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NHL Accomplishments:​

Stanley Cup Champion 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983 (NY Isles)
Stanley Cup Finalist 1984 (NY Isles)
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International Accomplishments:​

Selected for the 1981 Swedish Canada Cup Team

He would reach the 50 assist mark twice more during his career.​

CORE OF THE FOUR - Stefan Persson said:

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Selected in the 14th round of the 1974 NHL Entry Draft – yes, you read that correctly – defenseman Stefan Persson was as integral a member of the Core of 4 as any Islander player.
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He was at his most dangerous on the power play, handling the right point with Denis Potvin on the other side. He was a smooth puckhandler, smart passer, and superb tactician – a perfect complement for Potvin.

In each of Persson’s first two NHL seasons, the Isles converted on more than 31 percent of their power-play chances. In 1980-81, with Potvin and Persson orchestrating the attack from the blue line, the Isles set an NHL record with 93 power play goals while converting nearly 30 percent of their chances. No NHL team since has come close to that kind of sustained efficiency.

But Stefan was no slouch at even strength, either. He and Langevin, his longtime regular partner, offered a No. 2 pairing that most teams would have been happy to feature as their top unit. Persson’s passing and puckhandling skills were a perfect match for “Bammer’s” physical style of play and ability to clear the slot.

Persson was a key in the 1980 Cup Final against Philadelphia, where the Isles’ special teams destroyed the Flyers. Persson’s power-play goal with 3:42 left in regulation sent Game 1 into overtime, where Potvin scored the game-winner and Stefan added a pair of power-play setups to fuel a 6-2 victory in Game 3. In all, the Isles had a record 15 power-play goals. And Persson was a key to making the extra man a real advantage, finishing the Isles’ run to their first Cup with 5 goals and 15 points.

Stefan kept contributing, serving as a key member on all four Cup winners (though he had to take his 1981 victory lap after having watched the game from the press box due to a broken jaw). He was a valued Islander until his retirement after the 1985-86 season – too soon for most Islander fans. He was the perfect complementary player on one of the best, most versatile defense units the NHL has ever seen – and a joy to watch.

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The matchups: Islanders too deep said:

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Defense

ISLANDERS - A deep, versatile squad. Denis Potvin has skated up to his all-star status through the playoffs and, along with Mike McEwen, is a first-rate offensive force and puck carrier. Dave Langevin and Gord Lane are the hitters and Bob Lorimer, Langevin and Ken Morrow are the stay-at-home rearguards. Stefan Persson, a fine two-way defenseman, is out with a broken jaw but hardly has been missed.​

Nordiques Find Isles Tough said:

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Quebec found hockey's newest dynasty tough to handle, losing 4-1
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Quebec now has something else to worry about -- the return of the Islanders' smooth Swedish defenseman, Stefan Persson.​

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Baltimore selects Tod Sloan, the fiery rookie right winger on the Kennedy line who led all Leaf forwards in penalties (105), in goals (31 - 3rd in the NHL) then was top-3 in team scoring in their 1951 Stanley Cup championship, scoring 9 points in 11 games, tying the lead in even strength goals with 4, one of them with seconds left to tie the playoff game in which his teammate scored the OT cup-clincher, his 7 points in the final series against the Habs was the most of all Leafs. In his sophomore year "Slinker", as he was nicknamed, scored 25 goals (8th in the NHL), leading the league in powerplay goals. Afterwards, he was moved back to his natural position of center between Duff and Armstrong and Sloan became the NHL 2nd team all star center, the Hart trophy runner-up to Beliveau, Sloan leading the NHL in even strength goals (28), 4th in league goals (37 - a Leafs record at the time), having before and after that been also 8th in goals and assists. He also recorded his third 100 PIM season, known as a tough hard worker who checked as hard as he received. Despite several great years in Toronto, the alternate captain was shipped to Chicago because he was helping organize a players' union. Immediately, as a Blackhawk, Sloan had another great year, top 10 in goals and points, 2nd in team scoring. The next year he centered the second line and scored 20 goals, 2nd to Bobby Hull in team goals. Then in 1961 he won the Stanley Cup again as a 33 year old third liner, retiring thereafter. Sloan is #38 of the Top 100 Leafs. In 2020 he remains top 10 in career scoring by a Leaf center.

Didn't we determine before that Sloan barely played RW? Or am I remembering this wrong?

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Chicago selects Viktor Shalimov, RW

The random scoring line or bust player who is still pretty good value even at 40 teams

 

[Habsfan18]

Didn't we determine before that Sloan barely played RW? Or am I remembering this wrong?

We drafted him to play C.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

The Portland Penguins select John "Pie" McKenzie, RW.

Good pick.

Skates pick Rick Meagher and Jan Erixon

Meagher is a guy I'm very surprised doesn't go earlier with the other great defensive forwards, but even more happy since I always had him in plan but didn't have to take him when other guys that he belongs with or beats were going. He's absolutely brilliant and completely underrated. The most important trait of the Skates is skating and Meagher was not just a great skater, he was straight up one of the best skaters of his time. That with his elite defensive awareness and reads made him one of the premier shadows, and his specialty was shadowing superstars because he could keep up with them on the ice and with their brilliant minds. I guess he's almost unknown because he played for less publicized franchises and moved around a bit. He finally got some notice in St. Louis after they went deep in the playoffs in 1986 and got more notoriety in the late eighties when the Norris started getting more attention with Yzerman and Savard being the superstars to watch (Meagher was always close by to them). With the emergence of Hull and Oates and the attention the Blues got, Meagher finally won the Selke, but unfortunately for him, he suffered a knee injury in the 1990 playoffs that all but ended his career. Still, it's a testament to Meagher's conditioning (he was a player in his thirties who was said to play like he was in his twenties) that he still came back for a bit the next season, playing a bit of left wing. Given how reputation based the Selke is, and with Hull having his magnificent 86 goal season, I think it would have been very likely that had Meagher not gotten injured he'd have won it again at least once more, not to mention have a few more seasons in him. The awards voting doesn't matter at all to me though, you can tell how good Meagher was just by watching a few shifts.

Meagher was awesome at slyly holding the stick, wish I could draft him on the Radz as well (that was actually the original plan but things changed and I took LaFontaine on the Skates and Peca on the Radz instead because of Hawerchuk).

The Hockey Scouting Report is effusive in its praise for Meagher, as they called him not simply one of the best defensive forwards but one of the best players in the game:

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Meagher will be nicely complimented with Erixon, another great defensive forward of the time, who also is underrated mostly as he missed time most seasons with injuries here and there. Another guy with great and strong skating and brilliant defensive awareness is just what the line needs. Unfortunately for Erixon, he just did not have any sort of shot that was useful at the high levels he could play at, sad because he got into position so well and received passes nicely. Doesn't matter though, given the balanced firepower on the other lines.

I guess @ResilientBeast would be autoskipped so @TheDevilMadeMe is up. @Namba 17 has his list.

I love reading your descriptions of the way these guys played.

I guess if you're going to draft one forward with zero offense, you might as well go in, eh? Great penalty killing duo, at least.

 

[VanIslander]

Sloan is a C/RW.

He played two impressive years on the Smith-Kennedy-Sloan line and parts of a couple others before he got his own line as center with Duff and Armstrong.

Of course, we are playing him at center. But if there are injuries, he has proven he could perform well at right wing.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

New Jersey Devils listpick Bob Dailey, D

Thanks for making the pick for me.

I don't think Dailey was the best dman available, but he has a fairly rare skillset that I was looking for - big, strong, right handed shot who can play on the 2nd PP without being terrible defensively at even strength. Kind of a what-if player, who likely would have racked up the awards voting if it weren't for frequent injuries that regularly cost him 10-20 games a season.

This is some of what I said about him in a previous bio:

LOH said:

At 6'5" Dailey had the size and strength to patrol the defense with a remarkable amount of agility for a man of his size​

• 6'5, 220-230lbs
• Right-handed shot
• averaged 25.25 minutes in his best 5-year segment and 24.49 in his 561-game career
• Played 52% of his teams' powerplay minutes and 38% of his teams' shorthanded minutes over his career for fairly average special teams units
• All Star voting: 10th (1978), 16th (1975), 17th (1980), 18th (1979)
• 1978 & 1981 NHL ASG participant
• 1975: Named Vancouver Canucks' top defenceman (Team was 9th in the league)
• 1979: Named Philadelphia Flyers' top defenceman (Team was 4th in the league)
• 1981: Named Philadelphia Flyers' top defenceman (Team was 6th in the league)

He received this recognition, despite missing major time with injuries.
1975: missed 10 games, received a handful of AST votes, named Canucks best defenseman in his 2nd NHL season.
1976: missed 13 games
1977: missed 4 games, traded midseason
1978: missed 4 games, 10th in AST voting, ASG participant
1979: missed 10 games, received a handful of AST votes, named Flyers best defenseman
1980: missed 19 games, received a handful of AST votes
1981: missed 27 games, ASG participant, named Flyers best defenseman
1982: forced to retire early in the season at the age of 28.

ATD 2013 BIO Thread (quotes, stats, pics, sources, everything)

 

[tabness]

I love reading your descriptions of the way these guys played.

I guess if you're going to draft one forward with zero offense, you might as well go in, eh? Great penalty killing duo, at least.

It’s demoralizing to have skills and play with a guy who just can’t do anything with your passes man, makes you play worse too. Best to have dedicated shadow line. The third guy for that will fit the mold as well, he’ll be a little better offensively, but in the grand scheme of things, yeah...

 

[ImporterExporter]

@Selfish Man (4 hour clock) is skipped

@tabness (4 hour clock) is up.

 

[VanIslander]

CORRECTION:

432nd overall is Mike Ramsey NOT "Mike Ramsay".

I was so excited to control-f and see Ramsey wasn't drafted yet only to find out later when scrolling the rosters that Ramsey was indeed drafted.

Ramsey, like Macoun and an undrafted, are often underrated great defensive defensemen of the eighties. I'm glad the all-time drafts honor them. I have fond memories, and i did not like their teams!

 

[RustyRazor]

The Portland Penguins select Ed Sandford, LW

 

[VanIslander]

I did a nice write up on Sandford before.

I dunno how to find it quickly.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

The Portland Penguins select Ed Sandford, LW

Really good pick. When I had him before I wondered what made him worse than Clark Gillies, though I didn't have the cojones to actually publicly make that comparison.