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OT: Association Football Thread III (All Soccer Talk Here!)

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One thing about football that has always been hard for me to comprehend is how many major transfers completely flop. What other major sport do guys who are considered stars routinely turn into total outcasts within a season? I understand systems and chemistry are really important in the game but it still seems crazy.
 
nyr2k2 said:
One thing about football that has always been hard for me to comprehend is how many major transfers completely flop. What other major sport do guys who are considered stars routinely turn into total outcasts within a season? I understand systems and chemistry are really important in the game but it still seems crazy.
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Love a nice flop
 
nyr2k2 said:
One thing about football that has always been hard for me to comprehend is how many major transfers completely flop. What other major sport do guys who are considered stars routinely turn into total outcasts within a season? I understand systems and chemistry are really important in the game but it still seems crazy.
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I think the variance in tactics and play styles is very big in soccer compared to most other major sports. Add to that different levels of competition (different national leagues might have different styles in themselves) and also the human part (new people around you, new city or even new country) and that can lead to even more challenges on predicting future success.

And then in general, the soccer transfer market is just a special case in itself. So many different participants with vastly different conditions and characters. That leads to many players simply being hugely overpriced from the start, before even touching a ball for their new club.
 
nyr2k2 said:
One thing about football that has always been hard for me to comprehend is how many major transfers completely flop. What other major sport do guys who are considered stars routinely turn into total outcasts within a season? I understand systems and chemistry are really important in the game but it still seems crazy.
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It’s not crazy at all in soccer. Systems, coaching, tactics, styles, size of club, who they play with all matter a ton. Chris Sutton was incredible at Norwich & Blackburn, flopped at Chelsea, and was great again at Celtic. I could write tomes as to why but all the above mattered a lot in why a player of his type flopped at Chelsea but was really good at his other clubs in his prime.
 
nyr2k2 said:
One thing about football that has always been hard for me to comprehend is how many major transfers completely flop. What other major sport do guys who are considered stars routinely turn into total outcasts within a season? I understand systems and chemistry are really important in the game but it still seems crazy.
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Aaron Rodgers says hello (even though his stats this season seem respectable). Mets Jets Rangers Knicks have their share of awful signings. Yankees could also name a few I'm sure.
 
Big champions league game today, Liverpool vs PSG. Im interested to see how Kvaratskhelia performs. He was with Napoli and PSG bought him recently for 77 milion euros. Games at 4pm on paramount +
 
Rangers vs Celtic on CBS Sports now!
Let's go Rangers!

Newcastle play Liverfool later in the Caribou Cup from Wembley later!
 
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