Asset Value - where does Nick Suzuki rank in the NHL?

[bobholly39]

Hypothetical question - Habs decide to put Nick Suzuki on the trading block this off season. In a vacuum, how high is his trade value vs others? Is it higher than if Oilers do the same for McDavid and his expiring contract? How about Marner? Hellebuyck? And every other player too...

In a vacuum - where does Nick Suzuki rank as trade/asset value across the league?

Consider everything - including age, ability, contract, etc. The one element you should ignore is how likely a team is to trade a player, and instead focus on what the player would be worth if they were traded (ie, it's not about Wash/Pitt refusing to trade Crosby/Ovi no matter what and thus deciding they're worth the most - it's about if they were traded, what offers would they get vs others).

He's on a phenomenal contract - $7.85M AAV in a rising cap world. Terrific player, who keeps on improving, whose even done quite well in playoffs previously.

Is he a top 5 asset based on his AAV, age and ability? Top 10? 20? Farther out?

 

[Stewie Griffin]

He's not top 5 or 10. And I honestly don't want to look at that many contracts/stats/ages/etc to rank him anywhere past that.

Yes he has a good contract, and he's still only 25, but there's quite a few players better than him, there's lot's of players younger than him that are either already better or have way higher potential, and there's players with even better contracts.

Great player, definitely not a top asset in the league.

 

[Coffee]

Probably top 10

 

[Jack Spider]

Suzuki hasn't missed a game since entering the NHL.

 

[Stealth JD]

top-30.

most teams have one guy i'd pick over Suzuki...some teams have 2.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Top 50 for sure

 

[Non Player Canadiens]

top-30.

most teams have one guy i'd pick over Suzuki...some teams have 2.

better player now, maybe. but better value asset? really, one on most teams?

 

[Bouboumaster]

Top 30 seems fair to me IMO

 

[Doom Bot]

Mid 20s

 

[NikolaTesla]

Top 10. He's a top 7 ppg center atm, has a good 200 feet game and is on a very team friendly contract for many years. Might be a homer take but i think hes top 10.

 

[Artaud]

Top 30 for sure, maybe top 20.

One thing that needs to be factored into Suzuki's value is his durability. Never missed a game despite playing tons and in tough situations.

He's also got a track record of elevating his game when the stakes are high (in junior, in 2021, right now as the Habs are fighting for a wild card).

He will never be a game breaker but he's a gamer. A lot of ink is spilled about whether having elite players on huge contracts is a winning strategy, given that it often translates to lack of depth (best example being the Maple Leafs). Is three Suzukis worth more than two Marners? Cap-wise, that's the math.

 

[BKarchitect]

High…probably in the same realm as Robert Thomas - who has been arguably even more scorching hot. Thomas makes a few K more but also has an additional year on his deal. Both are 25 year-old centers who do it all for their teams and average 20+ minutes every game who are moving into that Top 10 center discussion IMO.

Wyatt Johnston is in that class for me as well - two-way scoring star centers with a two-way game…but Johnston’s extension is a bit more and doesn’t cover as much of his prime.

But those are the 3 guys (Thomas, Suzuki and Johnston) who I think need to absolutely be in the Top 10 centers discussion as we move forward into next fall. And all 3 are already bargains on their current deals/extenions.

 

[CanadienShark]

He's certainly not top 10. Hard to pin down value.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

First instinct was top 20

 

[Baksfamous112]

he’s got to be somewhere between 20 and 30

 

[MoneyManny]

He never missed a game, always steps up when it counts and shows great leadership. Very reliable on both sides of the ice. Great long term contract. I chose top 20 and i'm openly biased.

 

[DJN21]

somewhere in the top 10 between hutson, demidov and guhle.....

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

Only a few defenders and wingers id put ahead of him and I think he’s a top 10 center asset. Bedard and Celebrini are also ahead I’d say, I’d go top 20.

 

[Dumais]

Currently, it would be 30-50 range. If he continues being a PPG over many seasons, then 10-30 range. If he finds that next level and starts posting 100pt seasons, top 10.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Here are players that I would have above him. Taking into consideration, production, age, contract.

Not going to include players on ELC because it's not an apples to apples comparison but there are definitely some (Bedard, Celebrini, etc.) that I would include as well

Jack Hughes
Wyatt Johnston
Tim Stutzle
Robert Thomas
Lucas Raymond
Jesper Bratt
Brandon Hagel
Moritz Seider
Adam Fox
Cale Makar
Quinn Hughes

Some of these are debatable but generally these players are same age or younger and signed to similar money for similar length.

The two exceptions are Makar and Q Hughes who only have 2 more years on their deals but they are so elite and still super young that teams would give up more in terms of assets to get them instead of Suzuki.

So I think somewhere in the 15-20 range overall is fair. Like I said, you can debate some of these as it's not exactly a quantifiable scientific thing.

If you put in guys like McDavid, Kuch, Drai, etc. just based off of on ice impact and not really caring about contract then it's gonna expand the list a ton. You could also make an argument for Helly but I'll leave him out of this as it's just not comparable.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Top 50 for sure

Rebuild time for the rags?

 

[Frank Drebin]

somewhere in the top 10 between hutson, demidov and guhle.....

Cozens up there too

 

[GrandmaCookie]

somewhere in the top 10 between hutson, demidov and guhle.....

Funniest about this troll is that some Habs fan do actually think like that.

 

[Shark Finn]

Suzuki hasn't missed a game since entering the NHL.

ok

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

top 30 maybe/probably