Player Discussion Artemi Panarin

[94leetch]

He grabbed a girl and pulled her on top of him.
Did he do anything else?

 

[Peltz]

This team can't even win PR, let alone hockey games.

How does Drury still have a job?

 

[94leetch]

The timing can hardly be a coincidence, I wonder what it means?

 

[LokiDog]

 

[Peltz]

Companies, organizations, people pay off accusers all the time even when they don't believe or flat out know the accusations are false. Sometimes it's worth some relatively nominal amount of money to prevent allegations from becoming public, because those allegations can be extremely damaging even if they're eventually disproven.

You're certainly right about that. But I also wouldn't put it past Drury to bury evidence of worse conduct if it ever existed.

There's a chance everything occurred as it was leaked, a chance none of it occurred, and a chance it was far worse than what was reported today.

Drury and Dolan just don't inspire much confidence in anything associated with the team at this point.

Given what we do know about the organization today, would you really expect them to hold a star veteran accountable for anything? On ice or off?

 

[Machinehead]

He grabbed a girl and pulled her on top of him.
Did he do anything else?

"He hit the guy in the face with his stick.

Did he high-stick him?"

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

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A Nokia???

 

[LokiDog]

A Nokia???

Supposedly he said he was trying to give her “the brick”.

But for real, I thought the Nokia thing was like a Panarin meme at this point.

 

[94leetch]

"He hit the guy in the face with his stick.

Did he high-stick him?"

Huh?

 

[NickyFotiu]

I'm with you. You're left not knowing who or what to believe. This lady was caught out doing something she wasn't supposed to which doesn't mean she was lying about Panarin......and then the team decides it's going to cover it over. But now it comes out......why?

It's made me review a couple things. The other night the get together with JD and Sam. I have to say if I were JD and I had been fired by Jimmy Dolan for the bullshit reason he fired me for there would be no f***ing way in hell I'd have done that. JD is JD. He can do what he wants. It's not up to me to judge him. Just saying that would be the way I'd look at it. Which brings me to.....I don't trust Drury. Whenever shit happens he comes out of it just fine and dandy. Walked into Gorton's job for instance. Has gone through three coaches already. We watched the business with Goodrow, Trouba---for whatever reason(s) it imploded the room and imploded this season. It's never really been clear. What seems kind of clear is the players don't like him and he don't like a lot of them either. Lindgren is gone now, Kreider will go and maybe Mika and probably Panarin now too. He's found a way to walk away from all these big contracts and there's kind of a smell now. He's the ultimate survivor and the team ain't better for it. He seems to make the most out of every situation. I think he needs to go too.

I understand your point of view. I would be upset about being fired as well. I think JD is a good man who understands this is a business. He spoke well of Torts even though he was there when CBJ fired Torts. JD also left CBJ and then later returned. I think JD considers himself a Ranger with or without Dolan. Funny thing is I never knew the song Double Vision was inspired by JD until today. I even had that cassette tape. Yes you youngsters I'm old school.

 

[Baby Punisher]

This was out of left field. I didn't have this one my Rangers Bingo card.

 

[Siddi]

Maybe the Perry situation in CHI?

To my knowledge, Perry never forced himself on another person.

 

[nsvoyageurs]

It all makes sense now why Dolan implemented the no contact rule between PR/media employees and players outside of hockey related business.

Panarin needs to go. I defended him when the old allegations out of Russia came into light in 2021 but this is disgusting.

This whole organisation is rotten.

Bleep Panarin. I wanted him gone before the trade deadline; I want him gone more now. Started out with the franchise that covered up sexual abuse so they could win a Stanley Cup. Likely has a sense of entitlement.

This is a scumbag organization run by a scumbag owner.

 

[nsvoyageurs]

Pretty much you advocate to keep the player and then this shit comes out. Like on shirt off your back night too. WTF. The season that keeps giving and giving and never seems to f***ing end. One f***ing soap opera after the other and they're all f***ing grotesque.

FWIW I also don't think it's a good look for Dolan and Rangers upper management and Drury etc. to be keeping this quiet or even keeping it in their back pocket......like for a rainy day? They're not innocents either. Throwing this out in the public on the last day of the season is like a joke. Maybe when they first got wind of it?

PS: on the Rangers site you get a one last look at Kreider on the front page.

I imagine the Rangers media beat writers fell pretty stupid now giving Panarin their "Good Guy award" this week.

 

[gabevh3]

Bread thought that's what they meant by pickup line wasn't he engaged at the time?

 

[haveandare]

I imagine the Rangers media beat writers fell pretty stupid now giving Panarin their "Good Guy award" this week.

Pretty sure they feel like they based it on what they knew at the time and this wasn’t part of that

 

[TGWL]

"He hit the guy in the face with his stick.

Did he high-stick him?"

Depends if the play was over. Maybe he just assaulted him...

 

[dshea19]

Companies, organizations, people pay off accusers all the time even when they don't believe or flat out know the accusations are false. Sometimes it's worth some relatively nominal amount of money to prevent allegations from becoming public, because those allegations can be extremely damaging even if they're eventually disproven.

Indeed. Sometimes the payoff is cheaper than the legal defense of a trial. It can be cheaper to payoff than prove innocence.

 

[Baby Punisher]

Indeed. Sometimes the payoff is cheaper than the legal defense of a trial. It can be cheaper to payoff than prove innocence.

Sadly, proving innocence isn't the way our justice system is supposed to work.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Is it possible the team leaks this with the PR intention of getting rid of him and not having public backlash for doing so? It may make them look bad, but not as bad as potentially keeping him? Probably more convoluted than what is actually going on, but you never know.

A lot of people in the MSG org were aware to some level of what happened. A lot of NDAs were signed. People talk. It happens.

 

[DolansKazoo]

Wasnt an issue until she was getting fired? My spidey senses are tingling.

 

[dshea19]

A lot of people in the MSG org were aware to some level of what happened. A lot of NDAs were signed. People talk. It happens.

Probably the most likely scenario

 

[RangersFan1994]

women and men need to be held accountable if their story is false, they should deserve the same jail time as the accuser would get if it was true. Why would the Rangers management or whoever pay her if it was false? That is telling although confused on why

 

[Maliks PlusMinus]

Didn’t we fire someone for having dinner with a player and then sent out messages about a ‘culture problem’ with people meeting outside work? I can’t help but wonder about all this, team chemistry, hatred for front office etc.

We fired someone for having dinner but cover up an alleged assault…

Maybe the fear was what was being discussed over dinner

 

[Vitto79]

does he now have a limited no trade ?