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Artemi Panarin, MSG reached settlements with Rangers employee after sexual assault allegation

Monsieur Miz said:
His wife was pregnant at the time.

Big oof.
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People need to start accepting that this is the rule - not the exception - with high profile young men who are athletes, actors, musicians, etc. Bad behaviour is a feature, not a bug. Being treated like a god and having the means to bury trouble easily leads to bad behaviour.

Men posting here need to speak with the young women who’ve interacted with any of these guys. Doesn’t really matter who. It’s bad news. We can marvel at their talents and we can praise them for what they often do for kids. It is a majority of these guys who behave inappropriately and a large number who cross clear lines.
 
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This is thing is overblown out of proportion. There was no police appeal, no reports, no formal accusations. Short story long: they were at a party presumably drinking, he "stole" her phone, she went into his room, he approached her with an attempt to have an intercourse, she pushed him away took her phone and left.

Is it how real gentleman behaves? Most certainly not.
Is it even borderline criminal? In my opinion - not at all. People at parties tend to get carried away and sometimes something happens between coworkers. It wasn't the case. Panarin's approach was rejected, no harm was done. This all stuff was made public only after woman was accused of sharing prescription drugs with other coworkers.

There's really nothing to discuss, in my opinion.
 
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CatOTails said:
This is thing is overblown out of proportion. There was no police appeal, no reports, no formal accusations. Short story long: they were at a party presumably drinking, he "stole" her phone, she went into his room, he approached her with an attempt to have an intercourse, she pushed him away took her phone and left.

Is it how real gentleman behaves? Most certainly not.
Is it even borderline criminal? In my opinion - not at all. People at parties tend to get carried away and sometimes something happens between coworkers. It wasn't the case. Panarin's approach was rejected, no harm was done. This all stuff was made public only after woman was accused of sharing prescription drugs with other coworkers.

There's really nothing to discuss, in my opinion.
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the f*** is wrong with you... he f***ing tried to pin her down after luring her to his room
 
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CatOTails said:
This is thing is overblown out of proportion. There was no police appeal, no reports, no formal accusations. Short story long: they were at a party presumably drinking, he "stole" her phone, she went into his room, he approached her with an attempt to have an intercourse, she pushed him away took her phone and left.

Is it how real gentleman behaves? Most certainly not.
Is it even borderline criminal? In my opinion - not at all. People at parties tend to get carried away and sometimes something happens between coworkers. It wasn't the case. Panarin's approach was rejected, no harm was done. This all stuff was made public only after woman was accused of sharing prescription drugs with other coworkers.

There's really nothing to discuss, in my opinion.
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I just hung up on the "sexual assault" part. He made an unwanted advance, and she pushed him off. I struggle to see how that's considered "sexual assault".

A slimey move? absolutely and Panarin deserves to be called out for his actions but to call it sexual assault is kind of insulting to those who have actually been assaulted.
 
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Three On Zero said:
I just hung up on the "sexual assault" part. He made an unwanted advance, and she pushed him off. I struggle to see how that's considered "sexual assault".

A slimey move? absolutely and Panarin deserves to be called out for his actions but to call it sexual assault is kind of insulting to those who have actually been assaulted.
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there is a difference between sexual assault and rape, tis was absolutely sexual assault... marginalizing her experience because worse things have happened to others is not a good look
 
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ZachaFlockaFlame said:
There's a difference between day to day life there and being there 365 v visiting. He's been outspoken against the regime there and had threats to his family already.
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Oh please.

Panarin lives around Chelyabinsk in the offseason.
He got into trouble (again) last summer for firing a gun in a firearm-prohibited wilderness area. Paid a fine.
The guy doesn't appear to be too bright.

And his family was never threatened. Enough of the propaganda already.
Ironically his family includes an influential coach in Russian hockey (Oleg Znarok).
 
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MrLunatik said:
there is a difference between sexual assault and rape, tis was absolutely sexual assault... marginalizing her experience because worse things have happened to others is not a good look
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No one is marginalizing anything, she was still by all definitions sexually harassed.
 
MrLunatik said:
he tried to pin her down, that is assault. full stop.
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Assault and sexual assault are also two different things.

Best to just end this interaction now as we won't agree and it's really just a minor detail in a much bigger issue.
 
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the f*** is wrong with you... he f***ing tried to pin her down after luring her to his room
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There's nothing wrong with me. I'm just interpreting facts which were shared with public. There's a great canyon between "trying to pin her down" and rape attempt which some people are trying to assume happened there.
First leads to uncomfortable glances in further interactions, second to physical and emotional damage.

Maybe he indeed tried to rape her, was forcing and mauling her into the bed and she managed to escape, but it wasn't in the leaked story, wasn't it?
 
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Good grief, as if the Rangers season needed to get uglier.

And there is no excuse whatsoever for his behavior. It's 2025. I doubt many keyboard warriors around the internet commenting on this incident would be trying to minimize what happened if a man took the phone of their daughter or sister and then pinned her down on a bed when she retrieved it. That's f***ing disgusting behavior, whether police are called or not.
 
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MrLunatik said:
the f*** is wrong with you... he f***ing tried to pin her down after luring her to his room
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"allegedly" that's what happened. Everything is "allegations" in this story. So as usual, headline readers while be outraged and miss the "A" word used up down left and right throughout the story and take it as gospel, when in fact no one knows if it's the whole truth or even any of the truth.

A microcosm of the mainstream media and its consumers these days.
 
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CascadiaPuck said:
People need to start accepting that this is the rule - not the exception - with high profile young men who are athletes, actors, musicians, etc. Bad behaviour is a feature, not a bug. Being treated like a god and having the means to bury trouble easily leads to bad behaviour.

Men posting here need to speak with the young women who’ve interacted with any of these guys. Doesn’t really matter who. It’s bad news. We can marvel at their talents and we can praise them for what they often do for kids. It is a majority of these guys who behave inappropriately and a large number who cross clear lines.
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Nonsense. Most men do not act this way, even when given the opportunity.
 
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is the selling drugs part real?
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From the OP article-

"The team learned that the woman, whose anxiety around airplane travel was well known among team members, had shared her anti-anxiety medicine with a player who had the same issue. She was placed on paid leave pending the outcome of that investigation.

The female employee felt she was treated unfairly, according to team sources, and she then informed the team about the alleged assault."

This is why I have skepticism about her allegations. Is it possible that she felt she was treated unjustly by the team, so she then came up with this suit to get back at the organization? Makes one wonder
 
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