NHL Around the NHL VIII - John Tavares named Captain of the Edmund Fitzgerald

[Tbaybruin]

And then, if you want to get another elite D lile Krug, you will need to spend that type of money anyway.

You want an awesome PP and a top puck moving D? Be prepared to pay.

Why not pay the great one from within? You like someone better?

The day Krug will leave, Bruins will start the search for his replacement.

Krug-Pasta-Marchand will make the PP look good for years.

You are 100% correct very well said.

 

[Estlin]

Again I don't want to fluff Toronto as a Cup contender built for 16 playoff wins.


But that young forward core is going to get ALOT of kicks at the Cup there isn't a Chicago style tear down imminent and their blueline will be OK they found a way to upgrade it this year.

I can't wait until we have our D core locked up for what 2 of their forwards make. McAvoy 7.5 Carlo 4 Krug 7.5 Gryz 3.5. Only worry is the expansion draft. We should really give Gryz a 1 year extension ASAP so he can be a RFA and not exposed to the draft.

I agree with this post and your earlier one. While it's fun to point and laugh at Toronto for the team's high salaries, the fact is that the Leafs have three elite players locked up for several years, while it has a very good supporting cast in Nylander, Johansson and Kapanen, all 20-goal scorers and the latter two of whom are on good contracts. The Leafs have Rielly, Muzzin and now Barrie on the back-end and a very good goalie in Andersen. Its core is very young—all under the age of 30—which Boston does not have.

 

[Estlin]

And then, if you want to get another elite D lile Krug, you will need to spend that type of money anyway.

You want an awesome PP and a top puck moving D? Be prepared to pay.

Why not pay the great one from within? You like someone better?

The day Krug will leave, Bruins will start the search for his replacement.

Krug-Pasta-Marchand will make the PP look good for years.

I'm inclined to see Krug traded, especially if he asks for $7 million or more. I really like the player, but he's not worth that much, and I think that Boston's power play can survive without him. He's getting close to 30, too. The Bruins have three LHD who are reportedly all ready for NHL duty (Vaak, Zboril and Lauzon), and room will have to be made. Chara will be gone after this year, I imagine, which will open up a spot.

 

[KrejciMVP]

I agree with this post and your earlier one. While it's fun to point and laugh at Toronto for the team's high salaries, the fact is that the Leafs have three elite players locked up for several years, while it has a very good supporting cast in Nylander, Johansson and Kapanen, all 20-goal scorers and the latter two of whom are on good contracts. The Leafs have Rielly, Muzzin and now Barrie on the back-end and a very good goalie in Andersen. Its core is very young—all under the age of 30—which Boston does not have.

nobody is worried about Reilly Muzzin Barrie and Anderson doing much in April though. At least Im not. This core folded having a 3-2 lead to an old boston core at home. Year after year I hear about these vaunted leafs but they do nothing. that trend seems more realistic to me

 

[ap3lovr]

Torey Krug, on the other hand, does. If that’s the kind of money that he is looking for, then I’d say “so long”.

Depends what the total cap number is, and who we lose in the expansion draft.

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

I'm inclined to see Krug traded, especially if he asks for $7 million or more. I really like the player, but he's not worth that much, and I think that Boston's power play can survive without him. He's getting close to 30, too. The Bruins have three LHD who are reportedly all ready for NHL duty (Vaak, Zboril and Lauzon), and room will have to be made. Chara will be gone after this year, I imagine, which will open up a spot.

All the ELC you listed will be NHLers IMO but all not in Krug league.

You want a top established puck mover? Be prepared to pay 7-11M. That’s the new pay scale.

I have zero problem giving Krug the Spurgeob deal. If he wants Karlsson money it’s another thing. But 7-7,5M is fine to me on a 6y deal. Cut elsewhere.

Krug is already a 5,25M Cap hit. Bruins get 3M back next year getting out of Beleskey and Seidenberg. That will easily cover his raise.

 

[DarrenBanks56]

people worry about the cap too much on these boards.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

All the ELC you listed will be NHLers IMO but all not in Krug league.

You want a top established puck mover? Be prepared to pay 7-11M. That’s the new pay scale.

I have zero problem giving Krug the Spurgeob deal. If he wants Karlsson money it’s another thing. But 7-7,5M is fine to me on a 6y deal. Cut elsewhere.

Krug is already a 5,25M Cap hit. Bruins get 3M back next year getting out of Beleskey and Seidenberg. That will easily cover his raise.

How about Charlie Coyle? How about Jake DeBrusk?
What about a RW better than Ritchie for the top six?

I don't think it's as easy as $3M. We don't even know how these Carlo and McAvoy contracts are going to affect the cap for next season.

I agree with those who say we'd miss Krug. His elite offense and how it drives the powerplay. I agree with those who say he's underrated in his own zone and is one of the leaders on this team. We'd argue for a replacement for Krug until we found another Krug.

I also agree with those who say we can't afford him.

That Spurgeon deal sucks.

 

[b in vancouver]

Big money is going to come from betting.

By the time those 3 contracts are up in Toronto, projections put the cap at $100 million

Dom, still, it's like the Eichel/Skinner contracts in Buffalo. Sure you can afford them but how do you catch up to the top of the division and conference by paying guys that haven't got it done more than the good teams are paying players that have. All three are good young players but these contracts give Tampa and Boston a competitive edge for the forseeable future. They added $20M on two players that have finished third in the division while weakening the rest of their roster. The Cap could go to $100 million but that also affects Tampa with Kucherov and Stamkos and Boston with Marchand and Pastrnak and the $5-$15 million extra dollars they'll have to play around with for pretty equal/better players.
If age doesn't kill The Bruins in the next couple years then Toronto is screwed as Tampa isn't going anywhere.
Too many good teams to saddle yourself with a competitive disadvantage no matter how good you think their kids are.

 

[b in vancouver]

They arent even close to a contender. I hope these overpaid pretenders miss the playoffs bc they are too top heavy and buckle under expectations. lose leafs lose

I expect the same as the last two years. Hot start that gives them lee-way and then fold as games get tighter. Miss the playoffs or first round fodder again. Next summer we can listen to why losing Muzzin and Barrie are additions by subraction and how great they're going to be in 2021. Rinse and repeat.

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

How about Charlie Coyle? How about Jake DeBrusk?
What about a RW better than Ritchie for the top six?

I don't think it's as easy as $3M. We don't even know how these Carlo and McAvoy contracts are going to affect the cap for next season.

I agree with those who say we'd miss Krug. His elite offense and how it drives the powerplay. I agree with those who say he's underrated in his own zone and is one of the leaders on this team. We'd argue for a replacement for Krug until we found another Krug.

I also agree with those who say we can't afford him.

That Spurgeon deal sucks.

Bruins can afford Krug easily. They can afford DeBrusk easily. Coyle probably not.

That’s the thing with the Cap. You have to make choices. You pay the elite, you keep the bargains, you cut elsewhere and bring in ELC and cheap UFA to fill the rest.

Bruins are lucky enough to have their top line under 20M. Leafs have their top-3 at 33,5M. That’s a 14M head start.

Beleskey and Seids off the book next year free up 3M.

Miller will soon be gone. Another 2,5M.

Backes another 6M in two years tops.

Bruins will soon have Cap problems. Every top teams do. Even not top teams like the Leafs do.

But until then, they have a couple more years at top contending window. And this window looks so much better with Krug in it.

Cut elsewhere.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Bruins can afford Krug easily. They can afford DeBrusk easily. Coyle probably not.

That’s the thing with the Cap. You have to make choices. You pay the elite, you keep the bargains, you cut elsewhere and bring in ELC and cheap UFA to fill the rest.

Bruins are lucky enough to have their top line under 20M. Leafs have their top-3 at 33,5M. That’s a 14M head start.

Beleskey and Seids off the book next year free up 3M.

Miller will soon be gone. Another 2,5M.

Backes another 6M in two years tops.

Bruins will soon have Cap problems. Every top teams do. Even not top teams like the Leafs do.

But until then, they have a couple more years at top contending window. And this window looks so much better with Krug in it.

Cut elsewhere.

All this and all you managed to add was $2.5M from Kevan Miller.

$5.5M is not enough for Krug and DeBrusk.

I agree with your basic premise entirely. But Sweeney is burning the versatility that should come with having his top players signed at reasonable dollars. He drops all kinds of money on the bottom of the roster and we have no idea who can be ready to fill the holes we're creating by cutting.

Are we really in this window or is it closed?

 

[Over the volcano]

Bruins can afford Krug easily. They can afford DeBrusk easily. Coyle probably not.

That’s the thing with the Cap. You have to make choices. You pay the elite, you keep the bargains, you cut elsewhere and bring in ELC and cheap UFA to fill the rest.

Bruins are lucky enough to have their top line under 20M. Leafs have their top-3 at 33,5M. That’s a 14M head start.

Beleskey and Seids off the book next year free up 3M.

Miller will soon be gone. Another 2,5M.

Backes another 6M in two years tops.

Bruins will soon have Cap problems. Every top teams do. Even not top teams like the Leafs do.

But until then, they have a couple more years at top contending window. And this window looks so much better with Krug in it.

Cut elsewhere.

FWIW I don’t think Coyle will be all that much - he’s been a 30 pt forward for the last two years and cracked 20 goals only once in his 7 seasons. Apparently he loves playing back home and he’s already making 3+ mil. Don’t think it would take any more than that to keep him.

 

[TCB]

It would be great if the Canes, put it to the Canadiens again, but who knows maybe the Bruins have interest with their top 2 right defensemen still unsigned and Miller not ready.

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

people worry about the cap too much on these boards.

If it was not the cap it would be the color of their jerseys or the thickness of their socks affecting their skating. We fans are an obsessive bunch.

 

[JOKER 192]

After seeing the McAvoy deal Dubas must be asking himself "Now why can't I do that?"

 

[Fenway]

@BMC take note

Mohegan Sun seeking to recover $900,000 from NHL team owner

Mohegan Sun is suing the owner of the National Hockey League’s Ottawa Senators over a $900,000 gambling debt.

The casino, in a suit filed in June in New London Superior Court, claims Eugene Melnyk, 60, a Canadian citizen who lives in Barbados, issued Mohegan Sun a series of drafts that a Toronto bank failed to honor.

Canadian Business magazine, which listed Melnyk 92nd on its 2018 list of Canada’s 100 wealthiest people, put his net worth at $1.2 billion. He made his fortune in the pharmaceutical industry, acquiring the NHL’s Ottawa franchise in 2003.

The suit lists an unpaid draft Melnyk issued on March 17, 2017, and four more drafts issued March 19, 2017. Four of the drafts were for $200,000 apiece and the last was for $100,000. Three of the drafts were issued from 11:07 to 11:57 p.m. March 19.

 

[b in vancouver]

nobody is worried about Reilly Muzzin Barrie and Anderson doing much in April though. At least Im not. This core folded having a 3-2 lead to an old boston core at home. Year after year I hear about these vaunted leafs but they do nothing. that trend seems more realistic to me

It's been the same thing forever. Leaf Nation is all about July to October when they can still pretend they're good. 'A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.' might as well be their mantra.

 

[Over the volcano]

It's been the same thing forever. Leaf Nation is all about July to October when they can still pretend they're good. 'A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.' might as well be their mantra.

 

[BMC]

@BMC take note

Mohegan Sun seeking to recover $900,000 from NHL team owner

Mohegan Sun is suing the owner of the National Hockey League’s Ottawa Senators over a $900,000 gambling debt.

The casino, in a suit filed in June in New London Superior Court, claims Eugene Melnyk, 60, a Canadian citizen who lives in Barbados, issued Mohegan Sun a series of drafts that a Toronto bank failed to honor.

Canadian Business magazine, which listed Melnyk 92nd on its 2018 list of Canada’s 100 wealthiest people, put his net worth at $1.2 billion. He made his fortune in the pharmaceutical industry, acquiring the NHL’s Ottawa franchise in 2003.

The suit lists an unpaid draft Melnyk issued on March 17, 2017, and four more drafts issued March 19, 2017. Four of the drafts were for $200,000 apiece and the last was for $100,000. Three of the drafts were issued from 11:07 to 11:57 p.m. March 19.

Bad night at the blackjack table eh???

Seriously- if the guy really is a billionaire why didn't the bank honor the drafts???

 

[gumgum]

I love Honka.

 

[Fenway]

Bad night at the blackjack table eh???

Seriously- if the guy really is a billionaire why didn't the bank honor the drafts???

A lot of people in Ottawa think his fortune is a house of cards

 

[finchster]

All this and all you managed to add was $2.5M from Kevan Miller.

$5.5M is not enough for Krug and DeBrusk.

I agree with your basic premise entirely. But Sweeney is burning the versatility that should come with having his top players signed at reasonable dollars. He drops all kinds of money on the bottom of the roster and we have no idea who can be ready to fill the holes we're creating by cutting.

Are we really in this window or is it closed?

Bruins gotta hope a young kid steps up and fills a hole or makes someone expendable to fill that hole. Bruins have fewer holes than last season, which is good. However, more miles on some old bodies probably will make it difficult to get to the final again.

 

[TinyRivers]

nobody is worried about Reilly Muzzin Barrie and Anderson doing much in April though. At least Im not. This core folded having a 3-2 lead to an old boston core at home. Year after year I hear about these vaunted leafs but they do nothing. that trend seems more realistic to me

Dude, sooner or later though....we can't own them forever.

 

[Tbaybruin]

We need to move Backes and pick up a legit RW for our second line. Ya I hate moving our youth but we have a awesome two year window Let’s win a cup. Now is the time. We have a great team with depth. Win now