GDT: Around the NHL - Playoff Edition

[SomeDude]

No one is untradeable. I remember when the Rags were somehow able to trade Chris Drury with that awful contract he signed 15 years ago. Marner will be tradeable.

So then what is the point of signing Marner to trade him for likely very little in 3 years? To prolong the rebuild by getting the 12th pick every year?

It makes no sense.

 

[66-30-33]

So then what is the point of signing Marner to trade him for likely very little in 3 years? To prolong the rebuild by getting the 12th pick every year?

It makes no sense.

Worked for Isles/Utah.

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

I hope this does not mean the Caps win today since I don't think CAR has any Penguins legends.

Jordan Staal?

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

The guy I’ve been told you “have” to sign for any amount if he’s willing to come here.

In fairness, the Pens aren't going to be making any noise in the playoffs. So Marner's playoff performance matters way less here than how he does in the regular season.

 

[eXile3]

I love how ESPN+ send me emails about playoff hockey then I click in it and it’s like “fake out! Only on ESPN on dinosaur TV!”

 

[BHD]

Gentille hit it on the head today on The Athletic podcast. Berube's reaction on the bench was like he finally realized what he signed up for.

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

In fairness, the Pens aren't going to be making any noise in the playoffs. So Marner's playoff performance matters way less here than how he does in the regular season.

We have enough overpaid losers atm.

We don’t need more.

 

[Gold Diamond]

I love the Panthers. They play the game how it’s intended to be played. Simple, heavy, and mean. Dirty as hell too.

They’re not trying to be cutting edge or get ahead of any trends.

The Panthers are what I wished the Pens were this past 5-7 years: greater than the sum of their parts. The Cats play like a mean, skilled team with no superstar that is way above everyone else, they just gel together.

The Pens under Sullivan have always been LESS than the sum of their parts ever since the Pandemic.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Pretty nice that the Leafs keep proving that Dubi was right when he wanted to trade Marner before his NMC kicked in.

Wait is that the one where Shanahan stepped in and said no? I know Dubas was a Nylander fanboy more so than Marner.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

The Panthers are what I wished the Pens were this past 5-7 years: greater than the sum of their parts. The Cats play like a mean, skilled team with no superstar that is way above everyone else, they just gel together.

The Pens under Sullivan have always been LESS than the sum of their parts ever since the Pandemic.

They were the season they had the stoppage and the season before that, less than the sum of their parts. Sullivan coached them like that after the Caps destroyed the Pens in the playoffs.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Gentille hit it on the head today on The Athletic podcast. Berube's reaction on the bench was like he finally realized what he signed up for.

Bérubé sitting there like “these f***s brought in the wrong players, didn’t even keep ROR over a year ago, I’m so getting the blame for Brad’s f*** ups.”

 

[BHD]

Bérubé sitting there like “these f***s brought in the wrong players, didn’t even keep ROR over a year ago, I’m so getting the blame for Brad’s f*** ups.”

Treliving should have a done a hockey trade with Marner (ala, Huberdeau/Tkachuk) when he first took over. That's the main thing I place on him. Anybody could of told him that the team wasn't doing anything with Marner.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Treliving should have a done a hockey trade with Marner (ala, Huberdeau/Tkachuk) when he first took over. That's the main thing I place on him. Anybody could have told him that the team wasn't doing anything with Marner.

It’s not doing much with Janet Reno being Capitan either though mate. But yeah the pending free agent not being dealt for a massive haul and free up insane cap space today add Gibson, picks, some depth wingers and a 3c is a massive L.

Pasta Tuesday is hilariously bad at being a Gm.

 

[Turin]

It’s like 80% going to be Edmonton-Florida again.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

I’d buy out Ned easily. Cheap hit, rids a contract and spot. There’s no way I’d want him taking a spot from Murashov in Wbs.

He doesn't need to be bought out imo. That's a pretty easily movable contract. A lot of desperate teams looking for goalies.

Hard pass on taking up another retention slot, for such a small reward.
I would use it on Karlsson.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Penguins legends Granlund, Kulikov and Kapanen with the last 3 playoff GWGs. I hope this does not mean the Caps win today since I don't think CAR has any Penguins legends.

I hope people will shut up for a while about the Oilers' D being the reason why their goalies sometimes struggle. They have clearly massively, it's almost like coaching actually matters.

Vegas' forwards looking completely lost for most of the series helped too. I have no idea how Dorofeev and Hertl managed to score so many goals in the regular season.

The Staal disrespect

 

[Honour Over Glory]

He doesn't need to be bought out imo. That's a pretty easily movable contract. A lot of desperate teams looking for goalies.

Hard pass on taking up another retention slot, for such a small reward.
I would use it on Karlsson.

No team is desperate enough to take on Nedeljkovic.

There's a pretty decent list of goalies other teams would sign for less from the free agent market this summer:

Jake Allen
Ilya Samsonov
Alex Lyon
Anton Forsberg
Dan Vladar
Dave Rittich
Vitek Vanacek

Then there's the RFA goalies that could be moved or available because some teams have goalies in the pipeline and might want to give them a shot if those goalies want a better contract:

Joel Hofer - I could see a team targeting him either offersheet (if he's eligible) or via trade, Blues will need to pay him more than the 2.3m he was getting - Also Colten Ellis basically ready to take his spot makes it a nice trade chip to move Hofer.
Cayden Primeau (Habs have Dobes as RFA, one might be gone)
Daniil Tarasov (emergence of Jet Greaves)
Nikita Tolopilo - I think he could be moved

There's a lot of others as well that teams could deal for that would cost a lot less and likely put up better numbers than Ned has the last couple of seasons. The issue is clearing that spot, if Dubas could dump Ned with a 6th rounder, awesome, but I doubt that given the other options out there, some GM would need to have the worst scouting department in the history of the league to trade for Ned over those other options for less money. I'd rather that spot is left open for a battle for Larsson, Blomqvist, and Murashov. Jarry is whatever, one of those 3 deserves to battle out for a spot and this time not for a team coached to be a shit show. Ned's buyout is easier to swallow.

Then there's the fact that when one of those 3 do win a spot, 2 of them should be splitting time in WBS, not 2 of them splitting time and then also Ned being there buried for his cap hit and being useless for the development of the other 2. The buyout is less of a cap hit than burying his ass in WBS.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

LA hiring Ken Holland is such a dumb move.

For as much as the teams recycle the shit out of veteran coaches that should be put to pasture, these old wankers popping back up as GM's is just as bad. For the many up and coming GM's that should be getting their shot, to see Holland back in that role somewhere is unfortunate.

He's very good at putting teams in cap hell, but hey he gets them in the playoffs to do...nothing, except that one fluke run to the finals by the Oilers after his time in Detroit. Imagine trading Kesselring because you thought Vincent Desharnais was a better prospect, lol. Then the Jack Campbell contract and that crippling Darnell Nurse contract haha. Oh and the entire hockey world knew that Kassian contract was stupid, this wanker then had to dump a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounder to the Coyotes and got back a lower 1st in 2022 while giving theirs up (2022 - Yotes took Lamoureux and Oilers took Schaefer, 2024 Utah/Yotes took Skahan and that 3rd is this year). He is great at signing bad contracts.

Sure he did good on the Hyman and Ekholm thing and allowing McDavid to dictate Knobber as their coach. But he also kept doing more dumb shit, that Gagner deal, one of those picks ended up being Brock Faber.

Luc Robitaille f***ed that one up.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

We have enough overpaid losers atm.

We don’t need more.

After someone reminded me Dubas wanted to trade Marner, I went and looked up some of the stuff around it, finding out Shanahan blocked it etc. So at least with Dubas, he might not want Marner as much as blokes here think. If Marner isn't helping a team that has younger talent like Nylander and Matthews get deep into the playoffs, he's not doing shit all for us and I am sure Dubas knows that. Marner is better off going to San Jose for max and being out of the spotlight and playing with Smith and Celebrini.

 

[Rudy Russo]

After someone reminded me Dubas wanted to trade Marner, I went and looked up some of the stuff around it, finding out Shanahan blocked it etc. So at least with Dubas, he might not want Marner as much as blokes here think. If Marner isn't helping a team that has younger talent like Nylander and Matthews get deep into the playoffs, he's not doing shit all for us and I am sure Dubas knows that. Marner is better off going to San Jose for max and being out of the spotlight and playing with Smith and Celebrini.

Or Anaheim.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Or Anaheim.

LaCombe, Cutter, and Carlsson are going to be up for negotiation soon (I think this summer all 3 are on their final year of their ELC's), all 3 are going to need a lot of cap space for their contracts, same for Dostal who is an RFA right now and is about to get a hefty raise.

Verbeek doing smart things are not really within the realm of possibility either, so blowing his wad on Marner after hiring a pedo promoter is within his wheel house only to f*** up the cap and be an offer-sheet target, is perfect.

 

[Rudy Russo]

LaCombe, Cutter, and Carlsson are going to be up for negotiation soon (I think this summer all 3 are on their final year of their ELC's), all 3 are going to need a lot of cap space for their contracts, same for Dostal who is an RFA right now and is about to get a hefty raise.

Verbeek doing smart things are not really within the realm of possibility either, so blowing his wad on Marner after hiring a pedo promoter is within his wheel house only to f*** up the cap and be an offer-sheet target, is perfect.

I wouldn't be shocked if Zegras is dealt prior to the start of free agency. This coming season is his last with his current contact prior to becoming a RFA in 2026/2027 season.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

No team is desperate enough to take on Nedeljkovic.

There's a pretty decent list of goalies other teams would sign for less from the free agent market this summer:

Jake Allen
Ilya Samsonov
Alex Lyon
Anton Forsberg
Dan Vladar
Dave Rittich
Vitek Vanacek

Then there's the RFA goalies that could be moved or available because some teams have goalies in the pipeline and might want to give them a shot if those goalies want a better contract:

Joel Hofer - I could see a team targeting him either offersheet (if he's eligible) or via trade, Blues will need to pay him more than the 2.3m he was getting - Also Colten Ellis basically ready to take his spot makes it a nice trade chip to move Hofer.
Cayden Primeau (Habs have Dobes as RFA, one might be gone)
Daniil Tarasov (emergence of Jet Greaves)
Nikita Tolopilo - I think he could be moved

There's a lot of others as well that teams could deal for that would cost a lot less and likely put up better numbers than Ned has the last couple of seasons. The issue is clearing that spot, if Dubas could dump Ned with a 6th rounder, awesome, but I doubt that given the other options out there, some GM would need to have the worst scouting department in the history of the league to trade for Ned over those other options for less money. I'd rather that spot is left open for a battle for Larsson, Blomqvist, and Murashov. Jarry is whatever, one of those 3 deserves to battle out for a spot and this time not for a team coached to be a shit show. Ned's buyout is easier to swallow.

Then there's the fact that when one of those 3 do win a spot, 2 of them should be splitting time in WBS, not 2 of them splitting time and then also Ned being there buried for his cap hit and being useless for the development of the other 2. The buyout is less of a cap hit than burying his ass in WBS.

My bad, I forgot buyouts don't count toward retention slots anymore.
Buying him out should be fine then. At only 2.5M x 1, you can send him to Wilkes no problem as well.
As much as I would enjoy seeing Murashov, I would have mixed feelings with him coming up and playing well. That just lowers our odds at McKenna.

I suppose there's no choice though. Gotta develop what we have. It's very unlikely we get McKenna, so we kinda have to proceed as if we won't.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I wouldn't be shocked if Zegras is dealt prior to the start of free agency. This coming season is his last with his current contact prior to becoming a RFA in 2026/2027 season.

I wonder if they wait on Zegras and see if Joel Pedopromoter can get him to be the player they thought he could be. I don't know if that is worth the risk right now, it's been 2 seasons where he's been really falling off while others still found a way to succeed under 2 dipshit coaches like Eakins and Cronin.

I still want Dubas to trade for him, buy low type of situation with him. I think he can be a good player and just needs to get out of Anaheim, a fresh start.

 

[Rudy Russo]

I wonder if they wait on Zegras and see if Joel Pedopromoter can get him to be the player they thought he could be. I don't know if that is worth the risk right now, it's been 2 seasons where he's been really falling off while others still found a way to succeed under 2 dipshit coaches like Eakins and Cronin.

I still want Dubas to trade for him, buy low type of situation with him. I think he can be a good player and just needs to get out of Anaheim, a fresh start.

It would be easier for Dubas to try and trade for Zegras than get MacTavish as a RFA.