Around the NHL: Part XXI
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Irishguy42
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Correct.
NYR could win the play-in, TOR could also lose their play-in, and then both win lotto picks. Since TOR pick is Top 10 protected, we'd then get CAR's lotto pick no matter what.
Entirely possible for NYR to win the Cup and get 1OA.
McSauer
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play-in round isn't really the playoffs its to qualify for the playoffs so we can still miss the playoffs and not win the lottery
so for the non-playoff teams, the top 3 spots are determined by the lottery and then 4-15 is determined by point %....so if we beat carolina, then our own pick would drop from 13th to 16th or worse depending on which teams advance in the play-in rounds....and we'd only benefit from carolina being in the top 15 if toronto also loses AND ends up in the top 10.
there are 7 play-in teams worse than us (i think) Calgary, Winnipeg, Minnesota, Arizona, Chicago and Montreal...so this creates an interesting rooting situation. if we beat carolina, then we want all of those teams to lose and remain in the top 15 because if they advance they would push our pick down further. but if we lose to carolina, then we want all of these teams to advance since that would push our pick up.
considering we most likely will get slaughtered by any of the top 4 seeds cause we don't have the depth to compete. best case scenario is to lose in 5 and then have as many of those 7 teams as possible advance...if they all advance we'd jump to 8 prior to the lottery (if I understand how this works)...
there are 7 play-in teams worse than us (i think) Calgary, Winnipeg, Minnesota, Arizona, Chicago and Montreal...so this creates an interesting rooting situation. if we beat carolina, then we want all of those teams to lose and remain in the top 15 because if they advance they would push our pick down further. but if we lose to carolina, then we want all of these teams to advance since that would push our pick up.
considering we most likely will get slaughtered by any of the top 4 seeds cause we don't have the depth to compete. best case scenario is to lose in 5 and then have as many of those 7 teams as possible advance...if they all advance we'd jump to 8 prior to the lottery (if I understand how this works)...
so with only 2 hub cities (east & west), you could be looking at an olympic style schedule in terms of game times...depending on when they can start games and how quickly they want to get thru the play-in round you could be looking at a full day of games on tv...between the play-in games and round robin, you could have 3 games per day at each location, 6 games on tv....
I don't think any of the cities have multiple arenas (unless they pick LA and also use anaheim), so you could have games in both hub cities at the same time, but pretty much forces you to have games all day long if there are only 2 arenas.
I don't think any of the cities have multiple arenas (unless they pick LA and also use anaheim), so you could have games in both hub cities at the same time, but pretty much forces you to have games all day long if there are only 2 arenas.
Irishguy42
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Minneapolis/St. Paul will probably be one of the hubs, as there are several NHL-sized rinks likely available for use.
Xcel Energy Center/Target Center/Wild's practice arena/Ridder Arena as well as a few other practice rinks in a single facility.
Xcel Energy Center/Target Center/Wild's practice arena/Ridder Arena as well as a few other practice rinks in a single facility.
also works in terms of not being overly populated for isolation if everything goes back to normal...and the most northern us city so summer heat would be slightly less of an issue.
i'd probably go with minn/st paul and edmonton
Amazing Kreiderman
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To me, it's as much of an asterisk as the 1995 Devils or 2013 Blackhawks. The Cup win will count. Fans will celebrate. The rest of the league will hate it. I doubt the team that wins it actually cares about it coming with an asterisk
Synergy27
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Yeah. I agree. That 1995 Devils Cup didn’t count.
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I couldn't care less about this post season, but people get joy out of it so I am happy for everyone else. I have already moved on. Once the games start, I will probably watch
Technically true, but in this case “entirely possible” represents a scenario that has about .01% odds. I don’t believe any team outside the top 6 has ever moved up to #1 since this system was implemented and a handful of grabbed 2 or 3. For two teams in the 8-15 range both to win lottery picks is all but statistically impossible.
Irishguy42
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Machinehead
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The NHL officially handed out compulsory awards such as the Art Ross, Rocket, and Presidents Trophy.
One would assume, then, that they're going ahead with awards. Panarin better get his Hart nomination.
One would assume, then, that they're going ahead with awards. Panarin better get his Hart nomination.
Oscar Lindberg
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Draisaitl already has the Hart locked up
The majority of the old fogeys voting on these awards look at two things, points and plus/minus
Draisaitl leading in points by a wide margin makes it easy for them to choose
The majority of the old fogeys voting on these awards look at two things, points and plus/minus
Draisaitl leading in points by a wide margin makes it easy for them to choose
SA16
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I think they consider +/- a lot. Ovechkin had very similar seasons in 13-14, 14-15 15-16. He finished in 23rd/2nd/7th in Hart voting. The year he was 23rd he was -35. There hasn't actually ever been a minus player to win the Hart. And it's not like the leading scoring always wins it. Hall got it 6th in scoring 15 points out of first.
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Pittsburgh’s version of adversity involves them getting 1OA though.
egelband
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I can’t tell if Carolina thinks the Rangers aren’t worthy of their time or if they’re actually scared of the Rangers. I guess their actions speak louder than their words but they’re quite a good team and they definitely loaded-up for the playoffs.
Just caught the end of Game 1 from the Rangers-Caps series in 2015.
I know it was a dirty hit and we won the series, but I’m so glad we’ve moved on from that era of the Rangers. That finish was a microcosm of that group. No successful team had worse killer instinct than that bunch. For all the winning, that era was an emotional rollercoaster. More than it needed to be.
I know it was a dirty hit and we won the series, but I’m so glad we’ve moved on from that era of the Rangers. That finish was a microcosm of that group. No successful team had worse killer instinct than that bunch. For all the winning, that era was an emotional rollercoaster. More than it needed to be.
But thats what made it fun?
I will take that Stepan G7 OT winner over a 4 game sweep any day though. Just the sheer jubilation when that puck went in is something I won't ever forget.
.... I do wish they had more 4 game sweeps along the way though. We've had 1 in the Hank era and that was 13 years ago.
It certainly made it exciting. But for every Stepan heroic (I’ll never forget that finish either) there was three pathetic collapses against teams like Ottawa in 2017. It was heartbreaking.
What team loses 3 times in OT in the Stanley Cup Finals? That was something only that group was capable of.
Blue Blooded
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My biggest gripe was the offence completely drying up as soon as the playoffs started every single year. Our 2013 team was IMO the best of the era and was dominating like we've never seen post-TDL after adding the forward depth that was lacking. Absurd but true; Hagelin-Stepan-Callahan might have been the best line in the league that year in terms of results.
We ultimately lost that year due to ridiculous injuries on D, but even so we almost didn't get by Washington as our previously high octane offence struggled to score more than one goal per game and the possession dominace we saw in the RS evaporated against a terrible possession team in Washington.
Their deadline moves were terrific. The added depth made them really, really dangerous but their PK sucked that year (and it got ROASTED in the playoffs IIRC) and their bottom 6 was meh+as you said the D was just all kinds of jacked up.
We did see those signs of life from the team when healthy though and that carried over to the next season.
I have no idea how the f*** the 2014 Philly series went 7. The Rangers kicked their teeth in for that entire set and it should have ended in 5.
Blue Blooded
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The bottom-6 was awful to start the season but after the TDL we had an amazing 3rd line:
Clowe going down threw a wrench into things, he was great before he got hurt.
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