Around the NHL - Part XLIII

[will1066]

I'm watching you guys

 

[Leonardo87]

 

[TominNC]

Might be worth recapping the story:
ADA yells "make a ****ing save"
ADA owns starting it
Geo had his helmet on and headbutted ADA. Gave him a cut. We know he was hit hard enough to get cut.
ADA whacks Geo on the goalie mask with his stick. We don't know how hard ADA whacks Geo here but we can assume they are pretty much face to face (headbutt distance). Players usually walk the tunnels with one hand on their stick like a walking stick or just at their side. So based on distance, one handed grip, it's probably a whack and not a chop.
Teammates break it up.

Headbutts and face punches should both be egregious. If you are comparing the two, you are just splitting hairs. Headbutting with your helmet on feels more egregious, like on par with hitting someone with an object. A whack to the helmet feels a lot less egregious. This isn't a McSorley chop. He's going to have enough room to generate the power equal to a slap on the head. It's with a stick and ADA has pro-athlete strength so I wouldn't down play his hit either but it's something I'd expect hockey players to experience all the time (unintentionally).

I'm not a very spiteful person but I hope Geo never wins a thing.

Why, he did us a favor getting that a-hole out of here. Or should I say that bad defenseman

 

[Fitzy]

Might be worth recapping the story:
ADA yells "make a ****ing save"
ADA owns starting it
Geo had his helmet on and headbutted ADA. Gave him a cut. We know he was hit hard enough to get cut.
ADA whacks Geo on the goalie mask with his stick. We don't know how hard ADA whacks Geo here but we can assume they are pretty much face to face (headbutt distance). Players usually walk the tunnels with one hand on their stick like a walking stick or just at their side. So based on distance, one handed grip, it's probably a whack and not a chop.
Teammates break it up.

Headbutts and face punches should both be egregious. If you are comparing the two, you are just splitting hairs. Headbutting with your helmet on feels more egregious, like on par with hitting someone with an object. A whack to the helmet feels a lot less egregious. This isn't a McSorley chop. He's going to have enough room to generate the power equal to a slap on the head. It's with a stick and ADA has pro-athlete strength so I wouldn't down play his hit either but it's something I'd expect hockey players to experience all the time (unintentionally).

I'm not a very spiteful person but I hope Geo never wins a thing.

 

[n8]

Why, he did us a favor getting that a-hole out of here. Or should I say that bad defenseman

Call me naive. Pre-incident, ADA could have at least been traded. And while a big mouthed trouble maker, ADA seemed like the better teammate on the team. Geo was always by himself and not celebrating with the others. At least that's how I remember it.

 

[LOFIN]

Call me naive. Pre-incident, ADA could have at least been traded. And while a big mouthed trouble maker, ADA seemed like the better teammate on the team. Geo was always by himself and not celebrating with the others. At least that's how I remember it.

One of these guys is still employed in the NHL.

 

[n8]

One of these guys is still employed in the NHL.

You're using current day status and omitting all intervening information to make a point?
ADA signed a 1 yr $1M, show-me contract with CAR, a 2 yr $10M earned-it contract with PHI, got bought out there because Torts hated his defensive play, and then signed a 1 yr $1.68M contract with CAR (obviously they were ok with him to bring him back). He's currently unemployed because he got pushed out of Carolina's lineup because he just wasn't contributing enough to push out one of Slavin-Burns, Skjei-Pesce, Orlov-Chatfield. You know, I could see the Oilers grab him for league minimum should they lose Broberg. He'd get 40-50 points out there just by being out on the ice.

 

[TominNC]

He keeps getting pushed out because HE’s NOT THAT GOOD. Can’t play D.

 

[Synergy27]

Both of these guys are pricks and I’m glad they are gone. Simple.

 

[eco's bones]

As far as ability to play their position at the NHL level I'd take Georgiev over DeAngelo. He can certainly be an adventure in goal and is not a guy I'd want as a starter but he's at least okay in a backup role though that's how his feelings kept becoming a problem......so good that's he's gone. When a guy's going to be a dark cloud for everyone when things aren't going well for him it's time to get rid of him.

We don't even have to go deep into DeAngelo's character issues.....which he has plenty of. Just as a hockey player DeAngelo simply put sucks in his own end and when you're a defenseman that's death. He's just shit there. He has talent....an ability to run a power play but even that isn't spectacular. As an offensive D he can give you good production if you have him on your first power play unit and play him a lot. Problem then is you get more of his shit defense. That he's never really improved his defending much at all tells me he's not all that interested in doing so. He's burned his bridges for a bunch of teams and after his blowup with the Rangers he's pretty much had no trade value at all. No one was going to give up anything serious for him after that.......or at least until he proved he was or could be a good player which he didn't do which is why he's in Europe now.

Neither of them are what I would call good teammates. They're both pains in the ass. Don't miss either and good that they're gone and not our problem anymore.

 

[LOFIN]

I think DeAngelo is good enough skills wise to be employed in the NHL. The issue is that his specific skill set is not good enough for good teams. And with bad teams, they would rather play young prospects in those positions, and don't want to bring his personality in a young locker room as a veteran. There is a perception around the league, truthful or not about his character.

Could DeAngelo fit the D-corps of say San Jose or Chicago? Yes. Do they want him in their locker room? No, because they are trying to build a culture, not trying to win as many games as possible.

 

[TominNC]

For someone his fans claim is a good locker room guy, he seems to have a tough time getting jjobs and sticking. And as for his defense, well he just sucks on D.

 

[eco's bones]

I think DeAngelo is good enough skills wise to be employed in the NHL. The issue is that his specific skill set is not good enough for good teams. And with bad teams, they would rather play young prospects in those positions, and don't want to bring his personality in a young locker room as a veteran. There is a perception around the league, truthful or not about his character.

Could DeAngelo fit the D-corps of say San Jose or Chicago? Yes. Do they want him in their locker room? No, because they are trying to build a culture, not trying to win as many games as possible.

There's that too.

 

[Matt Rentfree]

I'm watching you guys

Who is watching the Watchmen?

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Both of these guys are pricks and I’m glad they are gone. Simple.

2019-20 TDA was a gamer and would be a huge upgrade for us playing behind Fox.

today's TDA is a PP specialist 6th or 7th dman

 

[mike14]

Who is watching the Watchmen?

 

[Rongomania]

2019-20 TDA was a gamer and would be a huge upgrade for us playing behind Fox.

today's TDA is a PP specialist 6th or 7th dman

He just never developed that strong D game which ironically is because his personality wouldn’t allow him to stick somewhere long enough and fit in. Which would have given him room to further develop his D game. He looked fantastic against us in that canes series three years ago. The D game just never grew.

I’ve never seen an athlete f*ck up as bad as that dumbass did without substance issues/CTE.

Unreal idiot.

 

[effen]

TDA can't improve defensively because he's too slow to be his size and not smart enough to be 3 steps ahead the way Fox is.

He woulda put up 100 points in the 80s and probably fondly remembered. Bad timing.

 

[NYR94]

Podkolzin traded to EDM

 

[effen]

1st round pickzzzzzzzz

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Podkolzin traded to EDM

A 4th rounder? Thats it? Wow. I know he hasnt been great but the kid is talented and only 23

 

[n8]

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Man, as disappointing as Kakko has been we dodged a bullet with Podkolzin . If we didn’t take Kakko he would have been the pick 100%

 

[noncents]

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there's a little cap room

 

[n8]

there's a little cap room

A 3rd seems like a decent price for dumping Ceci. Ty could thrive on a fast team like EDM.