Around the NHL - Part II

[Ainec]

Not every pick is a winner. You've still managed the best pipeline of 1C/2C/1W/1D in the NHL.

my point is that HFCanucks have an equally great track-record with those picks

and we would have more prospects in the system if Jim Benning wasn't trying to make the playoffs, stands pat at the deadline and let our Vets walk away in FA or trade picks for reclamation projects

 

[kovazub94]

Florida Panthers have a legit 1C Barkov, and high end 2C Trochek, a no1 overall pick supposed franchise D Ekblad ,a # 1 OFD who is actually proven in Yandle, a true#1 winger in Huberdeau and legit top 6 wingers like Hoffman and Dadonov, and they ****ing suck

Trochek needs to get to the next level, depth up front and on defense is suspect and Luongo 3-years too old.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

my point is that HFCanucks have an equally great track-record with those picks

and we would have more prospects in the system if Jim Benning wasn't trying to make the playoffs, stands pat at the deadline and let our Vets walk away in FA or trade picks for reclamation projects

You guys traded Burrows for Dahlen. And Godolbin for Hansen

 

[Machinehead]

my point is that HFCanucks have an equally great track-record with those picks

and we would have more prospects in the system if Jim Benning wasn't trying to make the playoffs, stands pat at the deadline and let our Vets walk away in FA or trade picks for reclamation projects

Maybe they need to fire Benning and bring in a GM who can build a roster as opposed to a pipeline.

Many Cup winning teams have had somebody draft their core besides the GM with his name on the Cup.

 

[Ainec]

Maybe they need to fire Benning and bring in a GM who can build a roster as opposed to a pipeline.

Many Cup winning teams have had somebody draft their core besides the GM with his name on the Cup.

how much accolades should a gm get when ppl on hf got a better track record predicting who to pick

also whilst not bleeding picks

 

[Ainec]

You guys traded Burrows for Dahlen. And Godolbin for Hansen

neither of these guys are core players and I would rather have all the 2nd and 3rd round draft picks as a rebuilding team

 

[FireGerardGallant]

neither of these guys are core players and I would rather have all the 2nd and 3rd round draft picks as a rebuilding team

Dahlen is a nice piece, Godolbin also isnt that bad. But Benning has dealt Vets at the deadline before

 

[FireGerardGallant]

Now the Blackhawks are a team that know how to tank right.
If only we can learn their ways

 

[Ainec]

Dahlen is a nice piece, Godolbin also isnt that bad. But Benning has dealt Vets at the deadline before

5 years, what major picks or pieces have been gained at the deadline?

trust me, Benning has done a poor job. The draft and especially how much talent is coming through is rewarding his ineptitude but this reward would be far greater with a good gm

I would take Gorton over Benning in a heartbeat

 

[Leetch3]

Nice 5 point game for Elias

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Panthers have always been less than the sum of their parts. I don't know what it is with them.

 

[Irishguy42]

Panthers have always been less than the sum of their parts. I don't know what it is with them.

Their forward depth sucks and their goaltending is spotty.

 

[Boris Zubov]

....so you've seen Gretzky then clearly....the greatest goal scorer in the history of the game?

Are you talking pure shooting ability? BecasBe then I'd agree...but in terms of goal scoring I'll take the guy whose had 90 goal seasons...

Yes, clearly I watched a prime Wayne Gretzky. And Wayne Gretzky himself has been quoted & would tell you today that he wasn't a pure goal scorer like Mike Bossy was.

With that said, it's hard to discount the guy who scored 87 & 92 goals etc, but I was referring to guys who were snipers & Cy Young type hockey players. Ovie & Mike Bossy fit that mold...#99 wouldn't be considered a sniper, IMO.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Nice 5 point game for Elias

Oh, i wasn't aware Patrik made a comeback, grats to his 5 point night.

 

[Inferno]

Yes, clearly I watched a prime Wayne Gretzky. And Wayne Gretzky himself has been quoted & would tell you today that he wasn't a pure goal scorer like Mike Bossy was.

With that said, it's hard to discount the guy who scored 87 & 92 goals etc, but I was referring to guys who were snipers & Cy Young type hockey players. Ovie & Mike Bossy fit that mold...#99 wouldn't be considered a sniper, IMO.

Yeah tgo definitely couldn't shoot the puck like those guys could...but he could put the puck anywhere he wanted...in terms of reading the goalie and putting the puck where it needs to go to score...tgo is on another level beyond anyone...the fact he acored the way he did with just an average velocity shot really speaks to how precise of a shooter he was.

 

[Boris Zubov]

Yeah tgo definitely couldn't shoot the puck like those guys could...but he could put the puck anywhere he wanted...in terms of reading the goalie and putting the puck where it needs to go to score...tgo is on another level beyond anyone...the fact he acored the way he did with just an average velocity shot really speaks to how precise of a shooter he was.

It's funny, he's one of the very few handful of players who actually trusted & had a more accurate slap shot than his wrist shot. His wrist shot was well below average, but he was a magician on the breakway, obviously.

 

[Blue Blooded]

3 top 10 selections and a home run in the 20's.

We gotta do that.

-Kravtsov checks off top 10.
-Miller checks off homerun in the 20's.
-Stealing Zibanejad replaces another top 10.

Now we just need the 1C.

3x top-10 selections: Andersson, Kravtsov, 2019 1st?
Homerun in the 20's: Chytil, Miller

This is completely overlooking Zibanejad, DeAngelo, Howden, Pionk, Shestyorkin, Hajek, Rykov, Lundkvist, et. al.

 

[DutchShamrock]

Now the Blackhawks are a team that know how to tank right.
If only we can learn their ways

I disagree. They aren't losing on purpose. They are like LA, totally invested with winning another with this core. They are just hamstrung by the contracts for that core.

And what are they doing that's right? They are increasing the odds of one pick. They aren't amassing other assets. They aren't selling off their aging core. They made a terrible trade with Panarin. They gave up the better player in a trade a few weeks back to get 2 cheap guys, granted with potential. That's to just get more depth. They aren't doing anything for the future outside of making their first better a few spots.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

One thing the Canucks having going for them is Benning knows how to draft and find value.

They've had their share of misses but he's done well. I wouldn't want him as my GM, but he would be one of the better director of player personel in the league

 

[Bob Richards]

Cory Schneider's last regular season win was on December 27th of last year.

He's 0-15-3 since.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Cory Schneider's last regular season win was on December 27th of last year.

He's 0-15-3 since.

Someone is gonna get a good goalie out of NJ when they finally move him and retain salary. Needs a good goalie coach to bring him back.

 

[McSauer]

If the Rangers somehow had the 1st overall pick in the 2017 draft, do you think we would have drafted E. Petterson?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Cory Schneider's last regular season win was on December 27th of last year.

He's 0-15-3 since.

When do they play us?

 

[bl02]

If the Rangers somehow had the 1st overall pick in the 2017 draft, do you think we would have drafted E. Petterson?

If they had this board would have imploded even though many of us liked Pettersson at the time.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

If the Rangers somehow had the 1st overall pick in the 2017 draft, do you think we would have drafted E. Petterson?

I think custance mentioned on a podcast that our scouts had him #1