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In the NHL, cross-checking is defined as using the stick shaft between both hands to forcefully check an opponent with no part of the stick on the ice. A minor penalty (2 minutes) is assessed for cross-checking an opponent, but a major penalty plus game misconduct (5 minutes plus 10-minute misconduct) can be assessed if the player recklessly endangers an opponent. A match penalty (removal of player plus 5-minute penalty) may also be assessed for reckless endangerment.

So that play is 17 minutes in my mind
 
MIGs Dog said:
Perhaps one of the guys with orange arm bands didn't see it. Can linesman suggest referees cite infractions they didn't witness?
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Apparently you can do anything as officials, the rule book is like speed limits, just a suggestion.
 
MIGs Dog said:
Perhaps one of the guys with orange arm bands didn't see it. Can linesman suggest referees cite infractions they didn't witness?
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“Officially” (heh) speaking, a linesman can report to the referee an infraction he witnesses that he (or she) believes warrants a major, misconduct, game misconduct, or match penalty, at the next stoppage in play that naturally occurs, but may not stop play on their own to do so. I believe that they can also do so for something that warrants a double minor in the NHL (such as a high stick that draws blood - speaking of which, the case of a high stick that draws blood in USA Hockey rules is defined as “injuring” an opponent with an infraction, which is automatically a major plus game misconduct, so it works there - but it’s rare to happen since most amateur players wear full facemasks). The referee will then decide whether or not to assess it, although in practice (and in my personal experience) it’s rare for a referee to not listen to the linesman on this. A linesman can also stop play for the puck going out of play, the net coming off its moorings, or an injured player.

Unofficially and anecdotally, one time I mentioned in passing (I wasn’t really trying to frame it as saying that it warranted a major) that some kid punched another kid in the mask with his glove still on, and the referee gave him only a minor for roughing. He was not technically supposed to do that - although the kid clearly deserved a penalty, you’re not technically supposed to only assess a minor penalty for something reported by the linesman. At least, not at the time - I think USA Hockey expanded a bit what linesmen can report, but that was after I had stopped officiating.

Edit: forgot to add, linesmen are vested with the responsibility of calling penalties for too many men (referees can as well but the linesman, especially the one on the opposite side of the benches, has the best vantage point for noticing it), and since they're the ones who conduct almost all faceoffs, they call faceoff violations, two consecutive ones which result in a minor penalty for delay of game. They can also blow the play dead for premature substitution of the goaltender, although that's a very rare occurrence - I only had to call it once in my four years as an official, and we were working the two-man system that game anyway. That one's not a penalty, but results in a faceoff at center ice.
 
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Arizonatah said:
It certainly makes sense to call playoff games the same way they call regular season games.
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I don't agree. The playoffs are a huge draw for the league because of the intensity. When you play the game with such great intensity, shit will happen, it's the ref's job to sift through the shit that matters. Take the intensity away and the league loses the multitude of fans that show at playoff time exclusively and all the money that comes with them.
 
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Arizonatah said:
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We want intense, not dirty.
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Can't disagree with you here, but how many fans are like us? The game has always drawn folks with violence, the league is looking to cover their asses regarding concussions and has done a good job, but let's face it, the big hits so many loved are not what they used to be, as a result. I don't see a change anytime soon, at least not until a player/players suffer with serious injury. Or, perhaps it's in the works, but the idea of "baby steps" comes to mind, thought being don't remove that which many fans like, all at once.
 
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To me a low crosscheck at the level of breezer protection is fine, anything higher to the back, not so much and to the head, face, neck, should be out altogether.
 
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Jakey53 said:
He's very good, but not the best, as that is McDavid, who is on a tier all by himself.
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And by long time.......did he mean a couple years because Crosby is clearly better. Oh and tgat Draisaitl guy, or MacKinnon , etc
 
He's probably my favorite player. He's huge but has actual skill. Uses he body to stripe of keep pucks away. Very seldomly cross checks, fights or slashes. Probably the best two way player in the game.Je is the ideal mould of a NHL player. That's why I want Lundell so much. He's learned from the best. So many Selke and Clancy trophies. Bet he will probably win more Cups then the players mentioned above.
 
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