The first 2 games and 1 period showed the Leafs what it would take, their willingness to keep doing that wasn't there. No one ever thought Reaves would be the difference for anything except team moral behind the scenes just like no one thinks O'Brien is a difference maker.
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I am hoping for a Canes Oilers final. Would love for the refs to actually call the fricking game. Pretty clear what interference is, crosscheck and hooking is. Would love to see the memo that directs the refs not to really pay attention to those unless it could really hurt a player or kill him with some of these cross checks. Summer Rose can a cross check be given a 5 minute major? Like boarding?
We don't want to influence the game........yet ignores the rules and influences the game.
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In the NHL playoffs, finding the line — and sometimes crossing it — is half the battle
It's crap. The Refs should only get 50 percent of there pay as they only make 25 percent of the calls. I want a new stat tracked for refs.. blown calls. We track everything else.
It's crap. The Refs should only get 50 percent of there pay as they only make 25 percent of the calls. I want a new stat tracked for refs.. blown calls. We track everything else.
True for sure, but what a clinic put on by Florida. I don't think I have ever seen a team dominate a game seven in the SC playoffs like Florida did. Terrible showing by the Laughs. Now they lose Marner for nothing. Who do you think gets canned?
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Turns out the NHL does track it. Calls the stat missed rate. They do not disclose these numbers but help use it as "teaching moments" for the referees. I truly believe they should have a bonus if they can keep that number under 5% suspended if it goes over 20%. Hockey and gambling are huge business and reffing greatly dictates the game.
Only possible canning I think is Shanahan. Treliving should get the chance to keep adding after Marner money and at least half or maybe all of Tavares money is available. If he signs them both it should be a fireable offense. Berube might quit after watching this!!!! This collection of "stars" should be the secondary pieces of a successful team, unfortunately they are all paid to be the primary.
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Can NHL Officials Be Fired?
Plenty of fans get frustrated with officials. We hear calls for them to be demoted, suspended, or even terminated. It’s not that easy.
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Wow.. it's so hard for the NHL to actually do any about the crappy officiating. I can sick for years and "retire" with benefits.
Their labor union, the NHLOA would have a field day with this. The way it currently works is not so bad. I'm not privy to how it works exactly, but the gist is that they sign contracts to work a season (no idea of the contract duration possibilities), and if you perform poorly enough, you just don't get a new contract. Or you can pull a stunt like Tim Peel and get "suspended" in the form of him being withdrawn from being assigned to games and told that his contract would not be renewed, as well as "forget about it" for being selected to work the playoffs. He got his full salary during his pseudo-suspension though, until his contract expired.
Speaking of playoffs, they have incentive to perform well. 22 referees and 22 linesmen are selected at first to work the playoffs, and the best performing officials progress to ensuing rounds, while underperforming (or injured, which unfortunately happened to Chris Rooney last night) officials get cut. I don't know what the number of officials who progress and get cut are, but I think by the Stanley Cup finals they have two sets of crews remaining. Not sure if they have reserve officials (playoff games get reserve officials, regular season games do not), or if the crew not working one of the games serve as the reserves.
Anyway, you get bonus pay for each round you're selected. The numbers I know are about 10 years old by now and approximate, but to give you an idea, linesmen start at about $70,000 per year and referees start at about $110,000 per year. That can increase to about $150,000 and $230,000 respectively based on seniority and performance. A linesman who makes it all the way to the finals can earn an extra $30,000 to $50,000 and a referee who makes it to the finals can earn an extra $40,000 to $70,000. You can scale up the numbers appropriately since it's now 2025.
Anyway, I think that's a decent enough way to hold the on-ice officials accountable for their performance. It's in the form of positive reinforcement, which I personally find better than a system of negative reinforcement in the forms of fines and suspensions, which if the NHL attempted to impose, the NHLOA would throw a fit and possibly go on strike.
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What would be some more positive reinforcement? 10 000 for a no miss game?
OK - so the Maple Leafs HAVE to make changes, right?
For hits and giggles, what would you offer for A Matthews?
Who is 100% off-limit? Keller, Cooley, Guenther, Sergachev, Iginla, But and Simashev, Lamoureux, Doan?
Do you package 4th OA, Crouse, Hayton and 2026 1st for him. Is that even close to realistic?
For hits and giggles, what would you offer for A Matthews?
Who is 100% off-limit? Keller, Cooley, Guenther, Sergachev, Iginla, But and Simashev, Lamoureux, Doan?
Do you package 4th OA, Crouse, Hayton and 2026 1st for him. Is that even close to realistic?
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When the team moved, so did any chance he would sign with ‘us’. Maybe when AZ gets another team. But it will not be with Utah.
I would take AM in a heart beat, depending on the ask. How many years did it take Ovi to get a SC, what about Bourque? What about McDavid? It's a team sport. Sure people expected more from AM, and I'm sure he would agree, but he is a 1C, with a great two way game and great at FO's.
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Add me to the list of those not interested in spending the huge amount of assets it would take to get Matthews. (It's probably a short list 
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I'm not interested in Marner and the beaucoop bucks contract he's going to get either. If he were a C I'd feel a bit better about it.
)I'm not interested in Marner and the beaucoop bucks contract he's going to get either. If he were a C I'd feel a bit better about it.
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I think the Leafs need a tweaking, not a major overhaul. They've shown improvement, just not quite there yet.
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I felt like he changed his game significantly in an attempt to help his team in the playoffs this season, more physical, more attention to defense and willingness to battle in the corners. Unfortunately, a player can't typically turn on that switch and keep up offensive production, especially a young player. He should have started sooner in the season, better yet, years ago. He's still young and learning.
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My big fear is I believe he has hurt his back last year and hasn't fully recovered. Watch his face when he takes a hit in the cornets and his wrist shot has lost a lot of it's speed. I think it's a lower back injury.
Utah isn't in a position, I believe, to offer maga assets for AM. Utah still lacks talent, and while you usually over pay for most UFA's, you don't have to give up assets. Marner would be Utah's best player. IF you have to pay him 12+mil., trade Schmaltz for another asset, maybe a 2C, or a stop gap 2C.Add me to the list of those not interested in spending the huge amount of assets it would take to get Matthews. (It's probably a short list
I'm not interested in Marner and the beaucoop bucks contract he's going to get either. If he were a C I'd feel a bit better about it.
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If I am Jefe I feel sorry for him lol Why the Jets and Yotes! Utah will be much better I feel, hope lol
Bonus pay for having a good game would be the other way to do it (but $10k for a "no miss game" is pushing it too much). I just don't think the NHLOA would be interested in restructuring the officials' compensation to be based on performance bonuses in the regular season, which is what it would realistically take in order to negotiate it that way with the NHL (because if they tried to ask for bonus pay on top of their already existing salary, the NHL would tell them to get stuffed).
I'd like to see your face if you got hit by 250 lbs. going 30 mph into a wall.
You would probably crumble like a week old cookie.
