OT: Around the NHL: Final stretch to the playoffs

[End of Line]

The way Dallas has been playing down the stretch they’re starting to remind me of the 11-12 Pens

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Yeah no disrespect to Kuch whatsoever, but at his absolute prime, I might legit take Geno over Sid, and I'm taking prime Sid over literally anybody else in the past 20 years. Prime Geno was a f***ing monster.

 

[PamBallam]

Kucherov is the GOAT accumulator. And I mean that as no disrespect, you just rarely notice him. Prime Sid and Geno, Ovi pre 2011, Mackinnon, McDavid and Draisaitl all drive play and are a force on the ice. Kuch you don't even realize was playing until you look at the stat sheet and see he had 5 assists.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

For the hell of it and since you don't like doing math...

Using Hockey Reference's point shares but calculating at a "per game" basis:

Entire career:

there was a broken table here

[Crosby is better over the course of their entire NHL careers by a little bit]

Ages 20 to 31 (Kuch's entire career):

there was a broken table here

[Crosby is 10% better]

Entire career:

there was a broken table here

[Malkin is 12% worse]

Ages 20 to 31 (Kuch's entire career):

there was a broken table here

[Malkin is slightly better overall, better offensively, but worse defensively]

There's some slight errors in the digits I punched in but I don't think they'd make significant changes. And the "##-age season" from Hockey Reference seems a bit off to me.

Anyway, let's see how Kucherov ages.




edit: oh damnit the table formatting got all messed up... gonna remove

TLDR: Crosby is slightly better overall than Kucherov considering all their NHL seasons (including these twilight years). But comparing the same aged seasons of the two Crosby is 10% better overall. Then for Malkin he is about 12% worse with these twilight years. But for the same ages he is slightly better (better offensively but worse defensively).

I don't think there are many players, if any, worse than Kucherov defensively

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Kucherov is the GOAT accumulator. And I mean that as no disrespect, you just rarely notice him. Prime Sid and Geno, Ovi pre 2011, Mackinnon, McDavid and Draisaitl all drive play and are a force on the ice. Kuch you don't even realize was playing until you look at the stat sheet and see he had 5 assists.

Read that as goat simulator. Fun game.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

I don't think there are many players, if any, worse than Kucherov defensively

And yet...

0.0263 DPS/GP for Kooch and 0.0245 DPS/GP for Geno

 

[Turin]

And yet...

0.0263 DPS/GP for Kooch and 0.0245 DPS/GP for Geno

Idk much about that stat, but I don't really see it. Malkin was never good defensively (which is annoying because he could have been) but Kucherov seems closer to Patrick Kane/Kyle Connor territory.

 

[Gurglesons]

Resume/career aggregation will go to Kucherov but I still take Malkin over Kucherov as a player.

Don’t really think that’s a hot take either. Kuch more clinical but peak Malkin could control a shift in a way Kucherov couldn’t/doesn’t.

Like put both at same age, at their peak and you get to pick one to start a team…. who tf is picking Kucherov even if he’s going to amass a “better” resume?

I think you'd be surprised.

 

[Gurglesons]

Kyle no!!’

 

[Zirakzigil]

Kyle no!!’

Chaos Giraffe reigns strong

 

[bambamcam4ever]

And yet...

0.0263 DPS/GP for Kooch and 0.0245 DPS/GP for Geno

Point shares are beyond worthless. They basically say this team was X good defensively which correspond to a certain number of wins and those wins are divided up among all players on their team.

 

[Turin]

I wanted the Habs to be good again for the history and the vibes but I made a critical mistake in forgetting that their fans on this board are horrendous.

 

[GilbertSeinfeld]

Oetinger's bad night

Kyle no!!’

Dude just changes Tocchet's spelling twice in one tweet.

 

[Turin]

Surprise surprise Seth Jones sucks. Winning in hockey makes GMs way too damn arrogant. They think they can get away with anything. Jack Johnson? Ryan Reaves? Why the F not we can't make mistakes. Take on Seth Jones contract? Well we're smarter than everyone so

 

[BHD]

I don't get the hype around Tocchet as a head coach.

 

[GilbertSeinfeld]

Stick taps to Columbus who refuse to go away.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Now is not the time to shit the bed Calgary.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I don't get the hype around Tocchet as a head coach.

I like him as a coach, he’s always changing things and adapting and trying to evolve, but his core roots for anything stays the same - work hard and show up.

He gives a lot of players chances in different situations and will keep trying. He’s the opposite of Sullivan.

 

[GilbertSeinfeld]

Now is not the time to shit the bed Calgary.

Especially now with Minnesota trailing Anaheim in the third.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Especially now with Minnesota trailing Anaheim in the third.

I am ok with the Wild making it, I want to see Fleury have at least one last playoffs before he retires.

 

[GilbertSeinfeld]

Oh wow, Eriksson Ek just sent Minnesota to the playoffs.

 

[Gurglesons]

anyone that thinks Sullivan isn’t a huge reason why this team isn’t in the playoffs can shut the f*** up since the Blues made it now.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Well it looks like the flames are out.

No playoffs for you @Zirakzigil you wanker.

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

Nurse suspended for 1 game….

 

[Zirakzigil]

Well it looks like the flames are out.

No playoffs for you @Zirakzigil you wanker.

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