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BackToTheBasics said:
Ovechkin in the 2010 playoffs and Ovechkin pre-Olympics were the same player. I think you are just trying to read into this alleged scandal as the reason for his drop in production. He was still just as explosive in the playoffs. His drop post-Olympic break could easily be explained as him not being as invested as he was following his disappointing exit, compounded by regression from an unsustainable pace. It was really in 2011 where he declined. Like I said, many things can be attributed to his decline, it's silly to just assume he was doping when other players around his age have had similar dips in production. Crosby also wasn't the same player in 2014. Sure, he led the league in scoring, but he wasn't nearly as dominant as he was in 2011. His dominance over 2nd was largely due to other contenders being hurt and missing games but I digress. I also brought up Matthews as an example of a player who declined around Ovechkin's age which you previously said was "unheard of". Whether or not they're the same caliber of player, they are both superstar players who had sudden and drastic drops in production.
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I agree that there wasn't a dropoff in 2010, OV's lower point totals after the Olympics were more due to the Caps not stacking his line with Semin anymore in contrast to the first few months of the season.
 
Maybe the inevitable Rangers coaching change this summer sorts Lafreniere out a bit, but man, what a f***in' dud that dude's turned out to be.
 
GilbertSeinfeld said:
The Blues streak has ended at 12 straight, against a team they could face in round one in the Jets.
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Yeah without Parayko and Holloway in the line-up.
Zirakzigil said:


Very sudden it seems. Thoughts going out to his family.
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With the pictures they showed, it seems like he might have had some illness for sure as he looked very slim and frail, it's sad to see him pass even at 67, he wasn't really that old at all in comparison to many others that are still around from his generation, especially in the hockey media world.

RIP Millen.
 
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Andy99 said:
Peter Laviolette —one season of failure as coach of the Rangers and out as head coach
Mike Sullivan — 7 seasons of failure as coach of the Pens and …nothing
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bambamcam4ever said:
I agree that there wasn't a dropoff in 2010, OV's lower point totals after the Olympics were more due to the Caps not stacking his line with Semin anymore in contrast to the first few months of the season.
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From January 7th 2010 until his final game before the Olympic break (February 11th), Ovechkin had his best stretch of the season, scoring 16 goals and 39 points in 19 games. He had 27 EVP in this stretch, and Semin factored in on only 1 of them. So, yeah, it looks like you are wrong there.

Speaking of his 2011 decline from earlier, here are a few articles from that time detailing injuries that he or other team members admitted to him playing through:

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Alex Ovechkin gets cortisone shot - secret injury reason for goal slump?

Alex Ovechkin got a cortisone shot for an injury that may or may not have been nagging him for a while. Is that the source of his goal scoring problems?
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Today, we found out that Ovechkin received a cortisone shot for an injury that’s been nagging him this season. While it raises our eyebrows enough to hear that he’s getting a shot to take care of an injury, it’s strange enough to hear that he’s injured at all. Caps coach Bruce Boudreau has to take any and all precautions with his top star as the Caps cannot afford to lose any amount of offense from the lineup. Corey Masisak of NHL.com has the story.
Neither Ovechkin nor Boudreau would comment on the specifics of the injury, but the Capitals captain was taking his left hand off his stick during drills and even shot the puck once with only his right hand. Ovechkin has been spotted on television broadcasts rolling his left wrist while sitting at the bench during games at different points this season.

Boudreau said he didn’t know how long the injury has been bothering Ovechkin, or if it has affected his play. Ovechkin has 14 goals at the halfway point of the season -- far off the pace for even his worst season of his career (46 in 2006-07).

“I don’t know -- it has probably been awhile for him to get a cortisone shot,” Boudreau said. “I don’t know, I couldn’t tell you. We’ll find out this weekend maybe if it’s worked or what.”


Ovechkin is a right-handed shooter and if the left hand or wrist is bothering that’s a huge problem as far as controlling the puck or getting any leverage to control a shot. With how hard Ovechkin plays each game, getting any nicks and bumps isn’t a big deal but getting such aggressive treatment to make sure he can stay in the lineup isn’t something we’re used to hearing about with Ovechkin.
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Alex Ovechkin fought through knee injury, will continue to do so in World Championships

Alex Ovechkin admits that he played through a knee injury for two months. Yet instead of getting much-needed rest, he's going to play for Russian in the World Championships, even though he admits he doesn't want to. Um, what?
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While Ovechkin and the Washington Capitals didn’t give many specifics about the severity of his knee injury (beyond saying it was more serious than many realized), the team admitted that he dealt with problems for about two months, according to CSN Washington.

“I don’t want to say too much but it was way more serious than all you people were thinking,” Boudreau said. “There was a reason why he wasn’t practicing to save himself for the game. You know that when something’s wrong, something’s [really] wrong and he’s never going to be one of those guys that sits there and takes days off. He would take a practice off so he could play in the game.”

Ovechkin admitted to being hurt and intimated it could be more than one injury.

“I have a couple of injuries,” he said. “But it is what it is, I get hurt, everybody gets hurt.”
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Any reasonable person will recognize the correlation here.
 
Honour Over Glory said:
Yeah without Parayko and Holloway in the line-up.

With the pictures they showed, it seems like he might have had some illness for sure as he looked very slim and frail, it's sad to see him pass even at 67, he wasn't really that old at all in comparison to many others that are still around from his generation, especially in the hockey media world.

RIP Millen.
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He did look like he was showing his age. Recently did the Flames 6 game road trip and their game last weekend I believe. Regardless very sad. I enjoyed his in game insight.
 
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Buddy Bizarre said:
Gretz played with some amazing players who were able to capitalize on his amazing passing. Hence the astronomical assist figures.
Oates was every bit Wayne's equal in this regard in terms of seeing the ice.
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And Oates played with Brett Hull and Cam Neely, two of the greatest goal scorers at the time.

This is a narrative often used to diminish Gretzky's accomplishments. Yes, he played on a great team, but take a look at how much he was outscoring his closest teammates. Since entering the NHL, this is the year by year total of how much he outscored his Oilers' teammates: 43, 89, 107, 90, 79, 73, 77, 75, and finally 38 (he played 13 less games than Messier who was the 2nd highest scorer that season).

Yes, he played on a great team but he was heads and shoulders above even those great players.

11 straight seasons of over 100 assists. Oates never accomplished that feat once. Oates' career high in assists was 97, which is an amazing feat. Gretzky's was 163. 1963 career assists compared to 1079 for Oates. He wasn't his equal, and there's no shame in that regard because nobody was.
 
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Lmao, the Yzerplan is spending a f*** ton of cap, hiring shitty coaches, and still missing the playoffs.

Sammy my boy, I called you Montemblows, I take it back. You slightly blow.
 
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