Around The NHL #6 - All About The Teams Not Ours.

[CLW]

How did nobody beat that?

Apparently he had a 10 team NTC. Vancouver was lucky to not be one of them.

 

[Jamieh]

Brayden Point is only owed $3m cash and has no clauses. You could theoretically swing a Hayton+++ trade.

Hahaha how do you cone up with this stuff??? Point would be the last guy they trade.

 

[Foggy1097]

It’s amazing how long it takes these GM’s to consummate deals...really I don’t get it. After all the hooplah and back and forth, he’s been traded, no wait he hasn’t, ok now he has...and it’s for a 3rd round pick...and that’s it haha.

 

[_Del_]

It’s amazing how long it takes these GM’s to consummate deals...really I don’t get it. After all the hooplah and back and forth, he’s been traded, no wait he hasn’t, ok now he has...and it’s for a 3rd round pick...and that’s it haha.

My guess is there were trying to get someone to take Martinez. Martinez and a buyer for Flower at 50% clears about the same amount of cap.

 

[GhostofYotesFan47]

Part of me wonders if we could still swing in and "help" Vegas get a little more cap while getting other parts in tandem.

In fact, if we could find a home for Kuemper that brings back a prospect, pick and minimal salary/cap I could see a deal around Schmaltz and Raanta for MAF++.

MAF could in theory hold the fort down with Hill while we add a boat load of youth.

 

[Jakey53]

I think Schmidt is a little overrated by reputation, but he's a great dman. I can't believe he only brought in a third. Toews brought two 2nds. Bailed out Benning

Great signing by Benning.

 

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Part of me wonders if we could still swing in and "help" Vegas get a little more cap while getting other parts in tandem.

In fact, if we could find a home for Kuemper that brings back a prospect, pick and minimal salary/cap I could see a deal around Schmaltz and Raanta for MAF++.

MAF could in theory hold the fort down with Hill while we add a boat load of youth.

I think they'll find a taker for Fleury@50%. Vegas doesn't need a ton of space, just some. They were very fortunate to find an out with Stastny, unlike Tampa.

 

[Jakey53]

Hahaha how do you cone up with this stuff??? Point would be the last guy they trade.

Didn't you mention last year that Point might be available? I told you then there is no way Tampa would trade him, and they won't do it now, especially with Stamkos's injuries.

 

[Jamieh]

Didn't you mention last year that Point might be available? I told you then there is no way Tampa would trade him, and they won't do it now, especially with Stamkos's injuries.

No, I mentioned Point was ripe for an offer sheet as he was about to become a star and Tampa had Cap issues. Can't believe no one uses that bullet.

 

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[_Del_]

Part of me wonders if we could still swing in and "help" Vegas get a little more cap while getting other parts in tandem.

In fact, if we could find a home for Kuemper that brings back a prospect, pick and minimal salary/cap I could see a deal around Schmaltz and Raanta for MAF++.

MAF could in theory hold the fort down with Hill while we add a boat load of youth.

I don't want any part of Flower and his agent tweeting crap when Hill gets more starts than he'd like. Raanta at 4M AAV and $2M owed is way better than MAF at 7 or even 3.5M over 2 yrs in dollars and cap.

 

[GhostofYotesFan47]

I don't want any part of Flower and his agent tweeting crap when Hill gets more starts than he'd like. Raanta at 4M AAV and $2M owed is way better than MAF at 7 or even 3.5M over 2 yrs in dollars and cap.

Chances are Hill wouldn't but if I'm GMBA, when it comes up in the media, I tell them we're doing what's best for our team and right now that means Hill is starting.

 

[GhostofYotesFan47]

Welp, scratch helping them out.

What can we do to get into Tampas wallet?

 

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Welp, scratch helping them out.

What can we do to get into Tampas wallet?

Tampa is really screwed.

-They need Killorn at a minimum to go away. That will cost assets. It will suck. It still doesn't solve their problems. But he can't block every move
-All of their other money has full clauses except Vasilevskiy and Point, the two guys they don't want to trade.
-They absolutely need to keep Cernak and need another RD.
-Most teams have spent their space, so the few teams that can take straight money are not going to give up anything

I can see them trading Killorn with futures, then trading Point for pure futures or an ELC player. That would give them enough room to bridge their 3 RFAs. The only other way, assuming nobody waives, would be to trade Vasilevskiy to a team like Detroit for futures and then acquire the cheapest possible quality starter. Not super appetizing either.

They probably should have waived Killorn, Gourde, Johnson, Palat well before FA and hoped someone would take them. The teams that would and could take them are now the teams in position to gain even more now.

Schmidt was just given away for a 3rd. We are in the upside down.

It's a good time to have expiring contracts.

 

[Jakey53]

Tampa is really screwed.

-They need Killorn at a minimum to go away. That will cost assets. It will suck. It still doesn't solve their problems. But he can't block every move
-All of their other money has full clauses except Vasilevskiy and Point, the two guys they don't want to trade.
-They absolutely need to keep Cernak and need another RD.
-Most teams have spent their space, so the few teams that can take straight money are not going to give up anything

I can see them trading Killorn with futures, then trading Point for pure futures or an ELC player. That would give them enough room to bridge their 3 RFAs. The only other way, assuming nobody waives, would be to trade Vasilevskiy to a team like Detroit for futures and then acquire the cheapest possible quality starter. Not super appetizing either.

They probably should have waived Killorn, Gourde, Johnson, Palat well before FA and hoped someone would take them. The teams that would and could take them are now the teams in position to gain even more now.

Schmidt was just given away for a 3rd. We are in the upside down.

It's a good time to have expiring contracts.

There is no way Tampa trades Point. Killorn? sure, Stamkos? sure, McDonagh? maybe. As we have seen first hand players will waive their NTC to a team that they like.

 

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After reviewing the Canucks forum, TIL:

Nate Schmidt is better than OEL and Theodore. Lol.

 

[Canis Latrans]

I'm curious if the Coyotes have any interest in Hall a year from now. There are a lot of unknowns before that happens though. Probably unlikely. I think it'd be too early on their trajectory towards competitiveness for the team to add him and he's going to aim for a more stable contender. Also a good bet that we're working some young forwards into the line-up that season, like Jeník, so perhaps no spot for Hall. Who knows what the team will look like then though. It'll be a year into Armstrong's tenure and oodles of contracts are coming off the books soon. I think we'll be looking to add a defenseman first though.

 

[87turbobuick]

I think Schmidt is a little overrated by reputation, but he's a great dman. I can't believe he only brought in a third. Toews brought two 2nds. Bailed out Benning

Also suspended for 20 games for being a roider.

 

[rt]

I'm curious if the Coyotes have any interest in Hall a year from now. There are a lot of unknowns before that happens though. Probably unlikely. I think it'd be too early on their trajectory towards competitiveness for the team to add him and he's going to aim for a more stable contender. Also a good bet that we're working some young forwards into the line-up that season, like Jeník, so perhaps no spot for Hall. Who knows what the team will look like then though. It'll be a year into Armstrong's tenure and oodles of contracts are coming off the books soon. I think we'll be looking to add a defenseman first though.

I'd love to have him back because he's one of my favorite players in the league and I think he's great. He said him and Armstrong have never had a conversation. So I think that's that.

 

[TheLegend]

Aaron Dell becomes the Leaf's third goalie.

 

[Canis Latrans]

I'd love to have him back because he's one of my favorite players in the league and I think he's great. He said him and Armstrong have never had a conversation. So I think that's that.

It is probably unlikely. I think Armstrong just spoke to his agent instead of him. It wasn't like he had a huge window of time to spend talking to each player on the team individually with all the other things he wanted to accomplish. Not talking to Hall personally though doesn't help the chances of bringing him back later though. You'd think if he were in the cards, Armstrong would have reached out more personally.

 

[_Del_]

He would never sign here. Perhaps if you backed up a Brinks truck and gave him eight years, but it's not worth it. That's a nightmare contract waiting to happen. And if it was a short term deal with the option to chase the Cup at the deadline, we'd be setting ourselves up for another Taylor Hall circus, and no disrepect to him, but I'm just fine turning that page and never looking back. I'm not blaming him for the collapse, but he is obviously not a solution.

 

[Mosby]

Listening to Dreger's podcast and he said there is a D who made 4-5 mil last year and money is so dry in UFA right now he got offered a 1-year, 750k deal.

 

[Jamieh]

Listening to Dreger's podcast and he said there is a D who made 4-5 mil last year and money is so dry in UFA right now he got offered a 1-year, 750k deal.

Put me down for Cody Ceci. He's not worth much more.

 

[rt]

Listening to Dreger's podcast and he said there is a D who made 4-5 mil last year and money is so dry in UFA right now he got offered a 1-year, 750k deal.

Probably Ericsson, Alzner or Greene. I wouldn’t offer them more than that.