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Let’s all hold hands and sing kumbaya. 4th overall for Byrum LMAO
That's insane. I mean, they have no one else to give that money to. But god, what an overpay both in assets and cap hit.And Chicago is rumored to be giving Byram 12.5 AAV??!?!?!
Ignoring the "keep him" option, what exactly were you expecting considering Kyrou had full control of his destination? A second line versatile forward + a not insignificant first + a not insignificant prospect is hard to pan.This kinda pisses me off even more about the Kyrou return. 4th overall for Byram? Big f***ing yikes Chicago. Only thing I can hope for is that now Buffalo still wants Parayko and puts this in play for him.
You mean the team with Dahlin, Power, Samuelson, Mrtka, Crevier, Timmons and Carels/Reid? ImI do wonder what Buffalo plans to do on defense now that they have traded Kesserlring and Byram.
Probably could've had knies + 1oa in a post byram worldThe return for Kyrou was fine…UNTIL Chicago made one of the all-time head-scratchers of a trade, which suddenly made it seem like Kyrou should’ve returned #3OA and a handful of other picks. (Which pre-Byram would’ve been absurd to consider)
I mean Byram did play big minutes for them in the regular season and the playoffs. Mrtka is still fresh into the league. Crevier was good in his first season but don't know if he will be able to handle playing top 4 minutes. Timmins is meh. Carels/Reid/Verhoeff/Rudoplh will take a while to be ready. Their D will be set when Mrtka and/Carels/Reid/Verhoeff/Rudoplh have a couple season under their beltYou mean the team with Dahlin, Power, Samuelson, Mrtka, Crevier, Timmons and Carels/Reid? Im
Sure they’ll be fine. Even without Byram they’re comfortably in the top-third of the league defense-wise, with talent more talent coming.
I mean Byram got 4th overall and Brady got three firsts and a high second including 9th overall. I'd place Kyrou much closer to Brady's value thanks to his contract and well ahead of Byram - yet we basically downgraded from a top line Winger for a middle-six Winger who's career high of 55ish points came while playing with the two best forwards on his team, who's left handed, and who can't play Center except in a pinch. We also got a mid-first, and a guy who was taken with a high second.Ignoring the "keep him" option, what exactly were you expecting considering Kyrou had full control of his destination? I second line versatile forward + a not insignificant first + a not insignificant prospect is hard to pan.
Kesselring was already being scratched. I don't think they really need to add much to the group with Samuelsson upping his game.I do wonder what Buffalo plans to do on defense now that they have traded Kesserlring and Byram.
I tend to agree with you but what can you do when the player can dictate where he goes?I mean Byram got 4th overall and Brady got three firsts and a high second including 9th overall. I'd place Kyrou much closer to Brady's value thanks to his contract and well ahead of Byram - yet we basically downgraded from a top line Winger for a middle-six Winger who's career high of 55ish points came while playing with the two best forwards on his team, who's left handed, and who can't play Center except in a pinch. We also got a mid-first, and a guy who was taken with a high second.
As Taylord said, we traded imperfect octane for no octane. With other GMs seemingly making boneheaded trades, we found the one level-headed guy to trade Kyrou to.....a player that we didn't need to f***ing trade unless it was for an overpay. I know we can move up, but that's not what this deal should have been. We should have secured a top asset at the least for Kyrou and I'm sorry but McMichael simply doesn't f***ing wow me as the primary return when Washington's pool is as deep as it is. This was a poor return from Army, trying once again to straddle the f***ing line of being good but not good enough.
And don't talk to me about NTC's - Brady had one real team he was willing to waive for and they got way better value. I'd rather have Calum Richie and 13 from NYI then what we got.
Again - we didn't need to trade him. There was no reason other then Army's f***ing ego to move him. If anything, another season where he puts up 35 goals would increase his return. It's f***ing maddening that the primary return for our best trade chip is an inferior player that plays the same position, and nothing that solves the largest hole we have on the roster in the short to medium to possibly even long term.I tend to agree with you but what can you do when the player can dictate where he goes?
That 16th pick better be converted into something that wows us, whether it's packaged for another higher pick or we use some of those picks to make a big trade.
There's no one on the Blues roster whom the Blues had a better pulse of his market than Kyrou. The dude has been actively shopped every single offseason and multiple trade deadlines. It's illogical to correlate the Byram to trade to the Kyrou trade. And it's illogical to think teams value a player like Brady Tkachuk on the same tier as Kyrou, fair or not. I truly believe Army exhausted every possible scenario as it relates to Kyrou to maximize the return. If I blindly told you that a GM turned a supposed high scoring winger who notched 46 points in 72 games and who possesses zero intangibles that enable you to win hockey games into a trio of legit assets I think you'd be pleased with that outcome.I mean Byram got 4th overall and Brady got three firsts and a high second including 9th overall. I'd place Kyrou much closer to Brady's value thanks to his contract and well ahead of Byram - yet we basically downgraded from a top line Winger for a middle-six Winger who's career high of 55ish points came while playing with the two best forwards on his team, who's left handed, and who can't play Center except in a pinch. We also got a mid-first, and a guy who was taken with a high second.
As Taylord said, we traded imperfect octane for no octane. With other GMs seemingly making boneheaded trades, we found the one level-headed guy to trade Kyrou to.....a player that we didn't need to f***ing trade unless it was for an overpay. I know we can move up, but that's not what this deal should have been. We should have secured a top asset at the least for Kyrou and I'm sorry but McMichael simply doesn't f***ing wow me as the primary return when Washington's pool is as deep as it is. This was a poor return from Army, trying once again to straddle the f***ing line of being good but not good enough.
And don't talk to me about NTC's - Brady had one real team he was willing to waive for and they got way better value. I'd rather have Calum Richie and 13 from NYI then what we got.
How on earth did the hurricanes hope to compete after trading away Skinner for peanuts in 18?Again - we didn't need to trade him. There was no reason other then Army's f***ing ego to move him. If anything, another season where he puts up 35 goals would increase his return. It's f***ing maddening that the primary return for our best trade chip is an inferior player that plays the same position, and nothing that solves the largest hole we have on the roster in the short to medium to possibly even long term.
Highly likely. For that reason I will have peace with the return and hope for the best.And for all we know, Kyrou quietly asked out.