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Darth Vladar said:
Hawks still made out like gangbusters there imho
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Seth Jones might be the most underrated defenseman in the NHL at this point in time. People act like he's awful, hell so many were claiming he was untradeable... but he's still a legit #2 RHD that is always a lock for a 40+ point pace (he missed 1x in the last 9 years)... he was a victim of playing for the Hawks, a team that has literally not even won 100 games since he was traded there. He was the lipstick on the pig that is the Blackhawks.

As for teh return, that first could easily be 27-32 next year, and Spencer Knight has a lot of question marks and has been nothing short of average since turning pro. He looked great at BC, but he's yet to standout as a pro, even in the AHL. I do think he could be good still, but there is also a chance the Panthers ruined him by rushing him.

I think it's good for both teams, I don't think either team made out like gangbusters.
 
Lunatik said:
Seth Jones might be the most underrated defenseman in the NHL at this point in time. People act like he's awful, hell so many were claiming he was untradeable... but he's still a legit #2 RHD that is always a lock for a 40+ point pace (he missed 1x in the last 9 years)... he was a victim of playing for the Hawks, a team that has literally not even won 100 games since he was traded there. He was the lipstick on the pig that is the Blackhawks.

As for teh return, that first could easily be 27-32 next year, and Spencer Knight has a lot of question marks and has been nothing short of average since turning pro. He looked great at BC, but he's yet to standout as a pro, even in the AHL. I do think he could be good still, but there is also a chance the Panthers ruined him by rushing him.

I think it's good for both teams, I don't think either team made out like gangbusters.
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Yes, but the reality is, even at 7 million, he's a 30 year old defenseman, with 5 years left, that has only actual hit 40 points once since 2019. I'm not saying he's terrible but the cap increase and retention is the only thing that made this deal possible. Makes you wonder about the future of Bennett. I àlmost wonder, given the relatively cheap cost to aquire, if this isn't a rental/flip scenario, at the Flames could be in on.
 
Lunatik said:
Seth Jones might be the most underrated defenseman in the NHL at this point in time. People act like he's awful, hell so many were claiming he was untradeable... but he's still a legit #2 RHD that is always a lock for a 40+ point pace (he missed 1x in the last 9 years)... he was a victim of playing for the Hawks, a team that has literally not even won 100 games since he was traded there. He was the lipstick on the pig that is the Blackhawks.

As for teh return, that first could easily be 27-32 next year, and Spencer Knight has a lot of question marks and has been nothing short of average since turning pro. He looked great at BC, but he's yet to standout as a pro, even in the AHL. I do think he could be good still, but there is also a chance the Panthers ruined him by rushing him.

I think it's good for both teams, I don't think either team made out like gangbusters.
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At the end of the day, Seth is still north of 30, the Hawks get to free up $7M off their cap, and bring in a 23-year goalie, and another 1st, which gives them two in each of the next two drafts. And this was a guy who said publicly that he wanted out, so there was a bit of pressure to move him by the deadline. There was a point in time where Seth’s was thought to be one of the more untradeable contracts in the league (that distinction is Darnell Nurse’s alone now lol). This is as good or better than the Hawks could have hoped for given the circumstances imho. The Panthers may be a better team for the relative short term, but this all but guarantees that Benny and Ekblad will be on the way out when their deals are up at the end of the season.
 
Sparky93 said:
Yes, but the reality is, even at 7 million, he's a 30 year old defenseman, with 5 years left, that has only actual hit 40 points once since 2019. I'm not saying he's terrible but the cap increase and retention is the only thing that made this deal possible. Makes you wonder about the future of Bennett. I àlmost wonder, given the relatively cheap cost to aquire, if this isn't a rental/flip scenario, at the Flames could be in on.
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When you have to include covid shortened years to try and make your point about 40 points, you should re-evaluate. In that time he's 0.55 PPG and his average with Chicago is slightly higher.

As for his age, he's not had any major injuries and he's not a bruiser, so there is no reason to think he's going to fall off.... and in 5 years, 7m will be what 3rd liners are getting. When Ras hit UFA, he's going to get 8+ for longer than 5 years. Bottom line is this is a better deal than they'd have gotten if they were to sign a UFA of Jones's caliber.

They essentially gave up 2 first round picks, I'm not sure what world that is "relatively cheap", the chances of them flipping him are none. Florida was a preferred destination for Jones, he's not going to waive his NMC again.

Also they should have lots of room to sign Bennett. They have no big name RFAs, no extensions are kicking in, Yandle's 1.2m buyout penalty is coming off the books and the cap is rising 7.5m. Bennett and Ekblad are their only major UFAs and that 7.5m is more than enough to give them both raises. They could literally pay them both 10m and still be able to replace minor FAs with ones of the same cost.

Darth Vladar said:
At the end of the day, Seth is still north of 30, the Hawks get to free up $7M off their cap, and bring in a 23-year goalie, and another 1st, which gives them two in each of the next two drafts. And this was a guy who said publicly that he wanted out, so there was a bit of pressure to move him by the deadline. There was a point in time where Seth’s was thought to be one of the more untradeable contracts in the league (that distinction is Darnell Nurse’s alone now lol). This is as good or better than the Hawks could have hoped for given the circumstances imho. The Panthers may be a better team for the relative short term, but this all but guarantees that Benny and Ekblad will be on the way out when their deals are up at the end of the season.
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I said it's good for both, I'm just saying it's not a steal by any means, for either side.
 
Canucks and Blues both pulled out wins tonight, which puts Vancouver even with us again (though we have one more win) and St. Louis one point back (though we have two games in hand) in the WC race. So two pretty big points at stake tomorrow night vs. Dallas.
 
Darth Vladar said:
Canucks and Blues both pulled out wins tonight, which puts Vancouver even with us again (though we have one more win) and St. Louis one point back (though we have two games in hand) in the WC race. So two pretty big points at stake tomorrow night vs. Dallas.
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I guess it wouldn't be as good if it were easy.
 
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Devils could be entering a classic post ASG free fall here after the Hughes injury news. Only 4pts out of the Eastern WC. Marky has been junk since coming back from injury(seen that before haven't we).

Can't see them being bad enough to slide all the way to top 10 in which case we'd get their 2026 1st but definitely a world where they miss the playoffs.
 
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Devils could be entering a classic post ASG free fall here after the Hughes injury news. Only 4pts out of the Eastern WC. Marky has been junk since coming back from injury.

Can't see them being bad enough to slide all the way to top 10 in which case we'd get their 2026 1st but definitely a world where they miss the playoffs.
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11th worst would be perfect lol 😏👌🏼
 
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Bounces R Way said:
Devils could be entering a classic post ASG free fall here after the Hughes injury news. Only 4pts out of the Eastern WC. Marky has been junk since coming back from injury(seen that before haven't we).

Can't see them being bad enough to slide all the way to top 10 in which case we'd get their 2026 1st but definitely a world where they miss the playoffs.
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Markstrom has been back for just 3 games and against 3 of the top 4 teams in the league, 2 of them (the 2 teams that scored on him) are top 4 in offense. The Devils were also down 2 of their top 4 defensemen tonight vs the Jets and down 2 of them for all but 5 minutes the other game vs Dallas where Markstrom was "junk"

It's too small of a sample size and missing those guys vs he Jets and Stars will always be a recipe for disaster
 
Lunatik said:
Markstrom has been back for just 3 games and against 3 of the top 4 teams in the league, 2 of them (the 2 teams that scored on him) are top 4 in offense. The Devils were also down 2 of their top 4 defensemen tonight vs the Jets and down 2 of them for all but 5 minutes the other game vs Dallas where Markstrom was "junk"

It's too small of a sample size and missing those guys vs he Jets and Stars will always be a recipe for disaster
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He's played 3 games and had two with a SV% under .830

that's junk
very junky junk even
 
flames23 said:
And nucks win again. Goodbye sweet wc2. See you later.
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I'm completely surprised the NHL does PED tests. I wonder if this has anything to do with the Feb 6-22 2026 Winter Olympics? Not exactly sure what the Olympic drug testing criteria is with regards to pre Olympic testing.
 
Rubi said:
I'm completely surprised the NHL does PED tests. I wonder if this has anything to do with the Feb 6-22 2026 Winter Olympics? Not exactly sure what the Olympic drug testing criteria is with regards to pre Olympic testing.
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We don't hear about it because most of the top players play internationally and are tested for that too. It's been in place for quite a while now.
 
Rubi said:
I'm completely surprised the NHL does PED tests. I wonder if this has anything to do with the Feb 6-22 2026 Winter Olympics? Not exactly sure what the Olympic drug testing criteria is with regards to pre Olympic testing.
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They test for steroids. However they don’t test for ephedrine. Common in cold medicine and the key ingredient in methamphetamine. Basically used to speed up a person’s metabolic rate. I was coached by an ex NHLer for a long time and he said that pretty much all NHL players were on it during the 80s and 90s.

 
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They test for steroids. However they don’t test for ephedrine. Common in cold medicine and the key ingredient in methamphetamine. Basically used to speed up a person’s metabolic rate. I was coached by an ex NHLer for a long time and he said that pretty much all NHL players were on it during the 80s and 90s.

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Ephedrine still super common in juniors and seniors tbh. You can get it over the counter at any supplement shop

Anyway I don’t know if there’s a fixed policy on testing positive and that 20 is the norm but it seems wild to me that Pinto got 40 for having his buddy log into his fanduel account to bet on a football game lmao

Back just in time for the playoffs for the Panthers naturally
 
crackdown44 said:
Ephedrine still super common in juniors and seniors tbh. You can get it over the counter at any supplement shop

Anyway I don’t know if there’s a fixed policy on testing positive and that 20 is the norm but it seems wild to me that Pinto got 40 for having his buddy log into his fanduel account to bet on a football game lmao

Back just in time for the playoffs for the Panthers naturally
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Panthers' Aaron Ekblad suspended 20 games for violating NHL's performance-enhancing drug policy

Florida Panthers defenseman Aaron Ekblad has been suspended 20 games without pay for violating the NHL and NHL Players Association’s policy on performance-enhancing drugs.
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Under the terms of the collective bargaining agreement, a player’s first positive test results in a 20-game suspension. A second is 60 games and a third triggers a lifetime ban.
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Lunatik said:
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Panthers' Aaron Ekblad suspended 20 games for violating NHL's performance-enhancing drug policy

Florida Panthers defenseman Aaron Ekblad has been suspended 20 games without pay for violating the NHL and NHL Players Association’s policy on performance-enhancing drugs.
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Do you by chance know if he’s allowed to practice with the team during the suspension or will he have to skate on his own?

If the Tkachuk injury is just LTIR scamming and he’ll be 100% come playoffs too the Panthers ought to be well rested for another push
 
crackdown44 said:
Do you by chance know if he’s allowed to practice with the team during the suspension or will he have to skate on his own?

If the Tkachuk injury is just LTIR scamming and he’ll be 100% come playoffs too the Panthers ought to be well rested for another push
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When Schmidt had the suspension, I think he wasn't allowed around the team? He went to Germany or something while serving the suspension.
 
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