Around the NHL - 2024-25 season.

[Darth Vladar]

Beauty snipe by Sam Bennett to tie it

 

[Some Other Flame]

Like what a guy

 

[JPeeper]

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

Like what a guy

I am shocked





















at nothing

 

[Boomstick]

That was awesome. So happy for Canada. I really didn't want overtime, but it was a glorious result.
Whew. Pretty fun tournament, that's for sure.

 

[Lunatik]

Canada’s goaltending is not in a good spot right now but leaving Logan Thompson off the roster and starting Jordan Binnington is ridiculous

you were saying.....

 

[Darth Vladar]

you were saying.....

Binner may have been kinda mid throughout his career (besides the Blues cup win), but he was an absolute fkn beast when it mattered tonight. He’ll undoubtedly be getting some due consideration to lead the squad at Milano Cortina after this.

 

[Lunatik]

Binner may have been kinda mid throughout his career (besides the Blues cup win), but he was an absolute fkn beast when it mattered tonight. He’ll undoubtedly be getting some due consideration to lead the squad at Milano Cortina after this.

So many hockey fans are too daft to realize the margin between goaltenders is razor thin... the difference between .915 and .905 (when you normalize shots to the league average of 28.3 shots per game) is 0.28 goals per game... or about a goal a week

 

[Bounces R Way]

Happy to see McDoogler stick that in Donny's fat f***ing stupid face. I will forever miss Sam Bennett man, if he was open to a contract here I'd welcome him back. Pitbull out there.

That was a fantastic game of hockey. One of the best I've seen in quite a while.

 

[Darth Vladar]

Canucks, Kevin Lankinen agree to terms on five-year contract extension

$22.5M ($4.5M AAV). As much as it pains me to say it, Allvin is getting the job done in Vancouver. This gives the Canucks one of the better tandems in the league if Demmer can stay healthy, and a reasonably priced contingency plan for the next five years if he can’t.

 

[Lunatik]

Canucks, Kevin Lankinen agree to terms on five-year contract extension

$22.5M ($4.5M AAV). As much as it pains me to say it, Allvin is getting the job done in Vancouver. This gives the Canucks one of the better tandems in the league if Demmer can stay healthy, and a reasonably priced contingency plan for the next five years if he can’t.

5 years for a guy that hasn't started more than 40 games in a season is a massive risk

 

[SaintMorose]

you were saying.....

I missed the overtime where it looks like he stepped up and played great, but in the 1st 2 periods I see Binnington do the types of things that make me think he shouldn't be an nhl starter. He doesn't consistently catch pucks in front of him, he struggles to find an edge after an initial save, he doesn't track passing options well so he's not square from the initial t-push or pad slide, and he will instinctively stretch for saves that he should be skating in front of so 3rd chances are basically a guarantee happening and goal when the defense doesn't win the next puck battle.

Watching a rookie Dustin Wolf skate vs watching Binnington skate is very night and day when you key in on how they find and use their edges.

There are other good qualities with Binnington that allow him to have a level of success in the NHL, and he might be one of the elite puck-playing goalies. I really thought a lot of Canadian D were struggling to keep up with what he was giving them more than Binnington ever struggled in playing the puck this tournament.

 

[Darth Vladar]

5 years for a guy that hasn't started more than 40 games in a season is a massive risk

In fairness, I think the real massive risk will be paying an injury-prone Demko whatever he’ll surely be asking for (it’ll be more than his present $5M per) when his current deal expires the year after next. If I were Allvin, I’d be tempted to move Demko for assets and just roll with Lankinen-Silovs.

 

[Figgy44]

In fairness, I think the real massive risk will be paying an injury-prone Demko whatever he’ll surely be asking for (it’ll be more than his present $5M per) when his current deal expires the year after next. If I were Allvin, I’d be tempted to move Demko for assets and just roll with Lankinen-Silovs.

I believe this current risk with Demko is why we drafted MacDonald instead. A short peak is still better than the the alternative. But I wouldn't care change the past if it means we potentially miss out on Wolf.

Allvin has a bunch of very good pieces and contingency plans in place, but his current roster has some serious holes and slightly problematic indicators. Of course, this is most teams. But comparing the two teams, I don't know if I'd want to swap places. OTOH, Ian Clark, EP40 and Hughes are the only pieces they have that I sorta envy. Everything else I'd prefer what we have instead.

 

[Darth Vladar]

I believe this current risk with Demko is why we drafted MacDonald instead. A short peak is still better than the the alternative. But I wouldn't care change the past if it means we potentially miss out on Wolf.

Allvin has a bunch of very good pieces and contingency plans in place, but his current roster has some serious holes and slightly problematic indicators. Of course, this is most teams. But comparing the two teams, I don't know if I'd want to swap places. OTOH, Ian Clark, EP40 and Hughes are the only pieces they have that I sorta envy. Everything else I'd prefer what we have instead.

I really just admire the way Allvin was able to turn around what by all accounts was a toxic team environment into a complete overhaul of their roster from the defense out, and lock it down for the relative long term, in such short order.

Quinn-Hronek
M.Petey-Mancini
E.Petey2-Myers

is going to be a problem for the Pacific division for the next little while imho. Demko is the caliber of goalie that can win you a cup, but is it worth committing $6M+ per for the next six seasons or longer at the risk of him not being healthy enough to play if and when the team actually makes the playoffs? (case in point: 23-24 with Silovs). If you can re-up Lanky and Silovs long-term for the same price it would cost for Demko alone, especially the way Allvin has rebuilt that D, I think you would have to do that all day. Move Demmer for assets and/or help up front. The Flames/Nucks rivalry should be a fun one in the years to come. Let’s see what we have with Insane Zayne first before we envy them too hard over Quinn lol

 

[Lunatik]

I believe this current risk with Demko is why we drafted MacDonald instead. A short peak is still better than the the alternative. But I wouldn't care change the past if it means we potentially miss out on Wolf.

Allvin has a bunch of very good pieces and contingency plans in place, but his current roster has some serious holes and slightly problematic indicators. Of course, this is most teams. But comparing the two teams, I don't know if I'd want to swap places. OTOH, Ian Clark, EP40 and Hughes are the only pieces they have that I sorta envy. Everything else I'd prefer what we have instead.

Demko either just had hip surgery, or was about to have hip surgery when he was drafted... we also had already drafted Gillies a couple years prior and IIRC he was already having hip problems at that time. So it makes a lot of sense to not not draft a second goalie that was needing (or just had) hip surgery...

Demko was also teammates with Gaudreau and Arnold the season before the draft (they turned pro after that season), so the Flames may have had some insight into how much pain he was in too. I was pretty mad when we drafted McDonald over Demko though, I was enamored with him after watching lots of Boston College games that year, although Sam Cosentino had mentioned he expected tMcDonald to be ahead of Demko that morning on the radio before the second round started, so I wasn't particularly shocked

 

[Figgy44]

I really just admire the way Allvin was able to turn around what by all accounts was a toxic team environment into a complete overhaul of their roster from the defense out, and lock it down for the relative long term, in such short order.

Quinn-Hronek
M.Petey-Mancini
E.Petey2-Myers

is going to be a problem for the Pacific division for the next little while. Demko is the caliber of goalie that can win you a cup, but is it worth committing $6M+ per for the next six seasons or longer at the risk of him not being healthy enough to play if and when the team actually makes the playoffs? (case in point: 23-24 with Silovs). If you can re-up Lanky and Silovs long-term for the same price it would cost for Demko alone, especially the way he’s rebuilt that D, I think you would have to do that all day. Move Demmer for assets and/or help up front. The Flames/Nucks rivalry should be a fun one in the years to come. Let’s see what we have with Insane Zayne first before we envy them too hard over Quinn lol

The Canucks are looking to potentially spend about 11-12 mil for goalies in the coming season. That's not great and I think on the higher end of the spectrum for all teams even with the cap going up. One of those goalies is injury prone. Of course, a single trade and suddenly they're above average on the goalie front.

But the culture thing being resolved, I disagree. Miller just amplified the culture thing, but the culture thing has been an quietly discussed issue going way, way back. Horvat/Virtanen era had one, the Sedins era had one (Luongo vs Schneider)... Heck Linden and Messier once upon a time too. There's just constantly something odd over there that constantly causes those locker rooms to become horribly divided and it's not coincidental to the recent group.

 

[Darth Vladar]

The Canucks are looking to potentially spend about 11-12 mil for goalies in the coming season. That's not great and I think on the higher end of the spectrum for all teams even with the cap going up. One of those goalies is injury prone. Of course, a single trade and suddenly they're above average on the goalie front.

But the culture thing being resolved, I disagree. Miller just amplified the culture thing, but the culture thing has been an quietly discussed issue going way, way back. Horvat/Virtanen era had one, the Sedins era had one (Luongo vs Schneider)... Heck Linden and Messier once upon a time too. There's just constantly something odd over there that constantly causes those locker rooms to become horribly divided and it's not coincidental to the recent group.

I didn’t mean to suggest that I thought Allvin had “resolved” the culture thing so much as turned it around fairly quickly and made his team arguably better than it was prior to that, on defense no question. If he can find a taker for Demko in exchange for another top forward plus, he’ll have turned that ship almost all the way around, at least roster-wise. I’m honestly not sure what it is about the culture there, they’ve certainly had some strange luck in that department over the years.

 

[Boomstick]

Happy to see McDoogler stick that in Donny's fat f***ing stupid face. I will forever miss Sam Bennett man, if he was open to a contract here I'd welcome him back. Pitbull out there.

That was a fantastic game of hockey. One of the best I've seen in quite a while.

We gotta have a talk with Lomberg to get him to bring Sam back. I'd definitely welcome him back with open arms. Guy's a beauty.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Demko either just had hip surgery, or was about to have hip surgery when he was drafted... we also had already drafted Gillies a couple years prior and IIRC he was already having hip problems at that time. So it makes a lot of sense to not not draft a second goalie that was needing (or just had) hip surgery...

Demko was also teammates with Gaudreau and Arnold the season before the draft (they turned pro after that season), so the Flames may have had some insight into how much pain he was in too. I was pretty mad when we drafted McDonald over Demko though, I was enamored with him after watching lots of Boston College games that year, although Sam Cosentino had mentioned he expected tMcDonald to be ahead of Demko that morning on the radio before the second round started, so I wasn't particularly shocked

He hadnt had the hip surgery, but it was known he needed it. Back then there were a lot of unknowns and questions if he could ever play pro. I remember people not being happy with the McDonald pick and the massive uncertainty with Demko. I really wonder how much Demko and the Nucks are done with each other. There were rumours earlier both wanted a fresh start.

 

[Figgy44]

We gotta have a talk with Lomberg to get him to bring Sam back. I'd definitely welcome him back with open arms. Guy's a beauty.

I've been thinking Ekblad might maybe make sense.

 

[Darth Vladar]

Canucks Stars Unexpectedly Out With Injuries | Fan Recap

Petey is only supposed to miss a game or two, but some potentially big implications re: wildcard race if Quinn should end up being out for an extended period of time. Not saying he’s the entire team, but obviously a key (if not the biggest) factor in their success.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Canucks Stars Unexpectedly Out With Injuries | Fan Recap

Petey is only supposed to miss a game or two, but some potentially big implications re: wildcard race if Quinn should end up being out for an extended period of time. Not saying he’s the entire team, but obviously a key (if not the biggest) factor in their success.

Boeser is also most likely to get traded

 

[Darth Vladar]

Boeser is also most likely to get traded

It’s not like I have an ear to the ground or anything, so I couldn’t say whether Boeser is happy in Van, whether the two sides are far apart on an extension, or whether there have even been talks, etc. but I am curious what he’d bring back in trade if Allvin does decide to move him. He could end up just stripping that forward group right down to the frame. Pretty much everybody that he would want to keep is already signed through next season, or RFA.

 

[Zirakzigil]

It’s not like I have an ear to the ground or anything, so I couldn’t say whether Boeser is happy in Van, whether the two sides are far apart on an extension, or whether there have even been talks, etc. but I am curious what he’d bring back in trade if Allvin does decide to move him. He could end up just stripping that forward group right down to the frame. Pretty much everybody that he would want to keep is already signed through next season, or RFA.

Hard to say. He might be the second best winger on the market after Rantanen. If they trade him the Nucks season is done though. Miller and Boeser gone, Hughes and Pettersson injured, Demko not healthy. Kiss the season goodbye.