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Around the NHL 2024-25 regular season Part II

NjDevsRR said:
Good for Sam. I will give him an applause on April 5th



He is one of the few things about that franchise I respect.
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I love his old man inflection when he says the name "Vaakaaninen." Gonna miss him dearly.
Guadana said:
And nothing around him. They need at least three years of heavy draft, more likely 5 years.
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This year I've learned that teams entering a rebuild in the NHL need to answer a very important question:

"What will our identity be on the other end of the rebuild?"

Notwithstanding the fact that the Flyers have only half-committed to a rebuild, I don't know what the hell they're trying to be. It's like the Red Wings or Sabres.
 
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thebeernerd said:
I love his old man inflection when he says the name "Vaakaaninen." Gonna miss him dearly.

This year I've learned that teams entering a rebuild in the NHL need to answer a very important question:

"What will our identity be on the other end of the rebuild?"

Notwithstanding the fact that the Flyers have only half-committed to a rebuild, I don't know what the hell they're trying to be. It's like the Red Wings or Sabres.
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Its not that hard to understand what Red Wings are doing on the draft.
Sieder is very good for his draft and mostly better than Cozens, Brogerg, Sodestrom and Zegras.
Raymond is doing great and he is better than Laf, Rossi, Holtz, Drysdale etc.
Edvinsson is very good and mostly better than Eklund, Clarke, Boucher and Sillinger.
Cossa is doing good for his stage.
Kasper is doing fine and he is mostly doing better than Savoie, Geekie, Mateychuk.
Pellika is doing very good, Danielson isnt good for his pick, but - all of them are good two way players, most of them are profiling as harder to play against, mostly with good skating and speed. Its a clear identity on the draft.
They are doing pretty well for what they could do.
They didnt hit on second rounders - thats a miss.

Their problem is their free agent market work, their trade decisions. And unluck. They didnt have a chance to draft top notch player.

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Buffalo are trying to draft BPA I guess. They are clear image of that you cant just build on it only.

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Anyway both teams made very good picks. Its just not enough for NHL. Flyers drafted one top notch player and thats all. Okay they drafted very good goalie prospect but its a long term story. And they didnt produce a lot of draft capital too. And they tried to compete for some reason without having something.
 
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thebeernerd said:
I love his old man inflection when he says the name "Vaakaaninen." Gonna miss him dearly.

This year I've learned that teams entering a rebuild in the NHL need to answer a very important question:

"What will our identity be on the other end of the rebuild?"

Notwithstanding the fact that the Flyers have only half-committed to a rebuild, I don't know what the hell they're trying to be. It's like the Red Wings or Sabres.
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Clearly if you don't hire David Quinn as coach, you're not committed to a rebuild :sarcasm:
 
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dzubrus8 said:
I don’t think it’s that watered down from a scoring perspective, unless your point is that there are too many teams which stretches goalies and defense more thinly (numerically that shouldn’t be the case) which leads to more scoring?

Adding 6 more teams is the equivalent of taking 2 FWDs from each teams starting 12 and 1 D from each teams starting 6. Adding 4 teams is basically taking 2 combined skaters from each team. That doesn’t feel like much and I’d actually be in favor of it — I think there are so many bubble guys it would be cool to see more of them get playing time and have a chance.
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The gap between the top end talent and the middle/bottom 6 is massive probably biggest ever. Add in goaltending is incredibly weak I would hate to be the billionaire that gets the last team. (Great problem to have)
 
TheUnseenHand said:
When you think about it, who came up with sudden death? That must have roots in the gladiators or something.

I have no issue with Sudden Death, I just never really thought about it until now.
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In teams of hockey it's always existed in the playoffs. If you just mean the term itself afaik the first real usage of it was the 1958 NFL Championship, which was the first one of those to go to overtime. They must have either done replays before - a la soccer, or just never had a tie at the end of regulation till then somehow.

Extra innings in baseball's never been referred to as sudden death, there's nothing sudden about a five minute OT in the NBA and the NFL never had overtime in any capacity in the regular season until some point after the aforementioned '58 championship...maybe the AFL brought it in for the regular season when they came into being?
 
NJDevs26 said:
In teams of hockey it's always existed in the playoffs. If you just mean the term itself afaik the first real usage of it was the 1958 NFL Championship, which was the first one of those to go to overtime. They must have either done replays before - a la soccer, or just never had a tie at the end of regulation till then somehow.

Extra innings in baseball's never been referred to as sudden death, there's nothing sudden about a five minute OT in the NBA and the NFL never had overtime in any capacity in the regular season until some point after the aforementioned '58 championship...maybe the AFL brought it in for the regular season when they came into being?
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none of those sports is next point wins like hockey is. baseball with a walk off but thats not sudden since the home team is at scheduled at bat. do any sports have sudden death? if they are going to get rid of sudden death just make it next goal wins dont make it sudden victory. i do agree if it started out as sudden victory and they switched it to sudden death we probably would be like wtf that sounds stupid but thats not the case.
 
JrFischer54 said:
none of those sports is next point wins like hockey is. baseball with a walk off but thats not sudden since the home team is at scheduled at bat. do any sports have sudden death? if they are going to get rid of sudden death just make it next goal wins dont make it sudden victory. i do agree if it started out as sudden victory and they switched it to sudden death we probably would be like wtf that sounds stupid but thats not the case.
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Doesn’t NFL OT end if the first team with the ball scores a TD? If so a kickoff return TD would be an instant win.
 
My3Sons said:
Doesn’t NFL OT end if the first team with the ball scores a TD? If so a kickoff return TD would be an instant win.
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playoffs now regardless both teams get to touch the ball regular season is first td wins. i personally feel its not really sudden death even with a kick off return td mainly because the offense is getting the ball its no different if they throw a 80 yard td pass on the first play plus you have multiple ways to win in overtime without scoring a td. if basketball switched to first basket wins it that would be pretty cool that is sudden death to me. actually now thinking of it basketball should make overtime the first team to 5 baskets can be 3s dunks half court shot free throw you just need 5 baskets
 
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TheUnseenHand said:
When you think about it, who came up with sudden death? That must have roots in the gladiators or something.

I have no issue with Sudden Death, I just never really thought about it until now.
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The more interesting conversation to be had is why are North American sports absolutely terrified by the concept of a draw?

BRING BACK TIES! It's gentlemanly.
 
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britdevil said:
The more interesting conversation to be had is why are North American sports absolutely terrified by the concept of a draw?

BRING BACK TIES! It's gentlemanly.
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probably because for years the media referred to a tie as "kissing your sister" which is both explanatory and creepy at the same time.
 
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meant to post this from thursday....back to the future's doc

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SEL leading scorer David Tomasek signing with an unspecified NHL club. My fantasy team will be happy if he can stick next season. Although my expectations are a bit tempered since Jakob Silfverberg was top 5 in scoring and he looked absolutely cooked in the NHL last year.

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Not quite sure where he'd fit. Skinner/Brown/Perry are UFAs, but Tomasek doesn't seem like an exact replacement for those guys either positionally or playing style.
 
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