Around the NHL 2024-25 regular season Part II
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MartyOwns
thank you shero
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Mgd31
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Not surprised about Tortorella. Yea he overachieved last year and got screwed by goaltending at the end, but that collapse was extraordinary getting only 6 points out of their last 11 games.
And this year they are going backwards (even though it is probably closer to how they should have been last year).
Nobody is surviving that.
And this year they are going backwards (even though it is probably closer to how they should have been last year).
Nobody is surviving that.
Devils731
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- Jun 23, 2008
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Ya, that was basically a “fire me because I’ve stopped caring about this” request.
HoliksGhost
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- Oct 24, 2007
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It's been done before. However, I've seen people on the Rangers board say that he instilled an attitude on the team that they lost after subsequent hirings and signings, and not a bad attitude either. So maybe they're dumb enough to do it again.Next Rangers coach
BurntToast
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I wonder if it’s a mutual agreement. I think Torts was brought in to right the ship and with them selling it’s now a full rebuild. I don’t see them being competitive for a while.
njdevils1982
Hell Toupée!!!
MartyOwns
thank you shero
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sabremike
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Check out the comments...
I can't because I don't have an account, but I can imagine. Why would you set yourself up for that kind of battering?
MasterofGrond
No, I'm not serious.
Flyers aren't event hat bad this year. Yeah the powerplay is pathetic, but their 5 on 5 metrics are really quite good. The issue is 42 games of Ersson at .882 is by far their best goaltending performance. Their 3 goalies are something like a combined -40 goals below expected according to moneypuck. Hard to win giving up more than half a goal per game extra.
njdevils1982
Hell Toupée!!!
same.... but i'm still laughing just imagining it
sabremike
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After the comments where he blamed himself the other night it looked like a guarantee that he was not coming back next year.
Never thought he’d be fired before the season ended though. Wonder if it was a mercy firing after those comments?
He was the worst thing that ever happened to the Flyers IMO. It was nothing he did wrong, but them keeping him as head coach bought them more points and wins the last few years (last year especially) then they probably should have had.
I’m skeptical their good or decent underlying numbers weren’t in large part due to him and not because the “Roster really isn’t that bad”.
Torts made them more competitive than they needed to be or should have been.
Never thought he’d be fired before the season ended though. Wonder if it was a mercy firing after those comments?
He was the worst thing that ever happened to the Flyers IMO. It was nothing he did wrong, but them keeping him as head coach bought them more points and wins the last few years (last year especially) then they probably should have had.
I’m skeptical their good or decent underlying numbers weren’t in large part due to him and not because the “Roster really isn’t that bad”.
Torts made them more competitive than they needed to be or should have been.
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I don’t really agree with the short self life thing. I think the average NHL head coaching tenure is 3 seasons and he came within like 10 games of matching that. This is the second shortest head coaching stint he’s had in the league, not including his interim head coaching stint with the Rangers back in 2000, which was his first ever NHL head coaching job.
The only particularly short tenure he’s had was the one disaster season in Vancouver.
He was with Tampa for I think 6 seasons. Rangers for 4 seasons and change. Blue Jackets for about a month shy of 6 full seasons.
I honestly thought he would only last 2 years when he was named head coach to the Flyers because they were trying to compete and were so bad on paper. He wound up lasting close to 3.
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I’m pretty sure Torts was the oldest active NHL head coach when the day started. He’s almost two years older than Lindy Ruff. He turns 67 in a few months.
He wouldn’t be the oldest head coach we’ve seen in a long time if he coaches after this, but Rick Bowness and Ken Hitchcock were the only guys in recent memory who hear coached into their very late 60s. And when Hitchcock was only about a year older than Torts is now when he coached his final NHL game.
This could be it for Torts.
Quenneville is only 2 months younger than Torts, which is why I wonder if he actually even wants to coach again, when I constantly hear his name.
He wouldn’t be the oldest head coach we’ve seen in a long time if he coaches after this, but Rick Bowness and Ken Hitchcock were the only guys in recent memory who hear coached into their very late 60s. And when Hitchcock was only about a year older than Torts is now when he coached his final NHL game.
This could be it for Torts.
Quenneville is only 2 months younger than Torts, which is why I wonder if he actually even wants to coach again, when I constantly hear his name.
Good for Sam. I will give him an applause on April 5th
He is one of the few things about that franchise I respect.
He is one of the few things about that franchise I respect.
sabremike
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An irony is that they still ended up with a franchise talent through the draft that's the type you usually have to win a lottery to get.
Guadana
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And nothing around him. They need at least three years of heavy draft, more likely 5 years.
dzubrus8
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I don’t think it’s that watered down from a scoring perspective, unless your point is that there are too many teams which stretches goalies and defense more thinly (numerically that shouldn’t be the case) which leads to more scoring?
Adding 6 more teams is the equivalent of taking 2 FWDs from each teams starting 12 and 1 D from each teams starting 6. Adding 4 teams is basically taking 2 combined skaters from each team. That doesn’t feel like much and I’d actually be in favor of it — I think there are so many bubble guys it would be cool to see more of them get playing time and have a chance.
