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Hasn’t he at least somewhat admitted fault? I forget the exact words he used in his interview with Strick but I recall him admiring some fault.

Beyond that, I get your point. But I’m sure the Ducks did their due diligence. And they’ll make sure to instill a culture that doesn’t allow for such crap. They’d be morons if they didn’t. And I’d have to think or at least hope the odds of having a sexual predator on an NHL staff would be incredibly rare. But the most important would be Verbeek making sure the culture is open.
You'd hope SA would be rare, but there is also a case going on for the Canadian juniors. And it's not just SA, but could be bullying, discrimination, harassment etc.

My recollection of what Q has said is he has continually denied any knowledge when there is damning evidence otherwise. @Brian39 has a great post somewhere about it. If you deny knowledge, how can you take accountability?
 
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Flack or quack?

I'll show myself out.

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He's ok I guess. I mean he's no ( who the f*** did the Avs get for him again? )
They got Necas and Jack Drury in the trade with the Canes for Rantanen.



As for the Ducks, my condolences to their PR and communications staff (especially social media team) today.

Sticking just to the hockey side of that hire, I think there were better candidates on the board, even after their seemingly top 2 candidates didn’t work out, David Carle extended with DU, Mike Sullivan went to the Rangers.
 
Hasn’t he at least somewhat admitted fault? I forget the exact words he used in his interview with Strick but I recall him admiring some fault.

Beyond that, I get your point. But I’m sure the Ducks did their due diligence. And they’ll make sure to instill a culture that doesn’t allow for such crap. They’d be morons if they didn’t. And I’d have to think or at least hope the odds of having a sexual predator on an NHL staff would be incredibly rare. But the most important would be Verbeek making sure the culture is open.
He "somewhat admitted fault" in the same way that I am somewhat admitting fault when I tell a potential employer that my greatest weakness is that I work too hard. More accurately, Quenneville made up a fictional version of events that made him look like a mostly innocent bystander and then 'admitted fault' by saying he should have done more to intervene.

All the involved parties were asked about and summarized their recollections of the meeting where the abuse was reported.

Quenneville claims that all details about what happened between Aldrich and Doe were kept from him and that the other people in the room were trying to tell him that "an event happened without saying what happened." He doesn't believe John Doe's name was mentioned in the meeting, doesn't recall whether Aldrich's name was mentioned, doesn't recall anyone saying 'it was hard for the team to get where they were in the playoffs,' and claims that there was no resolution of the situation at the meeting. He's maintained that he had no idea what happened and has since realized that he should have asked more questions to learn the truth so he could have done something about it.

No one else who was there supports his version.

Bowman's account of the meeting is that it was reported that Aldrich had tried to climb into bed with John Doe and that after learning of the incident, Quenneville shook his head and said that it was hard for the team to get to where they were, and they could not deal with this issue now.

Gary (the guy who reported it) specifically describes telling the group that Aldrich was pressuring John Doe for sex and threatened his career if he didn't comply. He specifically reported that during the meeting Quenneville appeared angry and was concerned about upsetting team chemistry. He also reported that 'they' decided to hold off talking to Aldrich about the situation until the season was over.

MacIsaac also remembered Gary telling the group that Aldrich tried to 'get under the sheets' with John Doe.

McDonough also stated during his interview that he believed Gary explained during the May 23 meeting what occurred, but he could only recall that Gary mentioned Aldrich’s name and how the situation was embarrassing for John Doe. He also recalled that Quenneville appeared to be agitated.

Cheveldayoff recalls that the group was told that there were allegations that Aldrich was socializing with players outside the arena, Aldrich sent inappropriate texts to players, and Aldrich made unwanted advances on players. Cheveldayoff recalled that John Doe and Black Ace 1 were specifically referenced during the meeting.

Quenneville is the only person claiming that people were being vague. Quenneville is the only person claiming that John Doe wasn't specifically brought up. Quenneville is the only person who doesn't remember whether Aldrich's name was brought up. Multiple people refute his claim that the meeting had no resolution. Two describe him as angry/agitated while a third specifically says that Quenneville was the one who first advocated to put team success over dealing with it. The report published firmly suggests that Quenneville was told exactly what happened in that meeting and was either the first or loudest voice in the room advocating to bury the information in favor of team chemistry.

And yet Quenneville maintains that his error was simply allowing the rest of the group to keep him in the dark and that if he had asked questions like he should have, maybe he could have prevented them from burying it in favor of winning some hockey games. Spare me.

Crocodile tears from a coward. I hope for nothing but the worst for him and the Ducks organization.
 
I'm not willing to die on this hill, but I rather suspect that there is a different version of what Quenneville says to people in private. I'd be pretty surprised if he hasn't had conversations (like with his new boss) where he is more candid and reflective about what he should have done differently. I can see why there would be reasons he would be careful to try and avoid acknowledging any fault in public. I could be wrong, but I can see a scenario where a new employer has a different view on his role and how its affected his future decision-making. Maybe that's too optimistic.
 
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He was the first person the Ducks organization was considering once they fired their coach, according to sources. Given what Brian said, I don't believe for a second that Quenneville (and Bowman and the other higher-ups, for that matter) is suddenly "remorseful"; he's just wanting to say anything he can to get a job.

I wish I was surprised. I knew that this was going to happen eventually. I'm just glad it didn't happen with our organization.
 
I think Joel was wrong but I can understand the mindset of focusing on the task at hand. Would you want your coach to have a mindset of winning at all costs? In this case we found out you can take that too far? Win at most costs?

I think these guys push everything to the outside during the playoffs and they shouldn’t have pushed this situation? Was there a way to simultaneously play hockey and also properly handle a situation? Sure there was. But I bet a whole bunch of people told q to win at all costs along the way. Hard to program somebody to do something then delete them when they do it.

IMO, He served his time. Round 2 is acceptable. It’s okay to be wrong and be punished then recover.

If I were Betman I’d have required him to coach a year in the ahl to absorb some of the pr and also just to dig in the pain a little with all the bus rides and such.

Win at all costs crowd forgot the asterisk.
 
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He "somewhat admitted fault" in the same way that I am somewhat admitting fault when I tell a potential employer that my greatest weakness is that I work too hard. More accurately, Quenneville made up a fictional version of events that made him look like a mostly innocent bystander and then 'admitted fault' by saying he should have done more to intervene.

All the involved parties were asked about and summarized their recollections of the meeting where the abuse was reported.

Quenneville claims that all details about what happened between Aldrich and Doe were kept from him and that the other people in the room were trying to tell him that "an event happened without saying what happened." He doesn't believe John Doe's name was mentioned in the meeting, doesn't recall whether Aldrich's name was mentioned, doesn't recall anyone saying 'it was hard for the team to get where they were in the playoffs,' and claims that there was no resolution of the situation at the meeting. He's maintained that he had no idea what happened and has since realized that he should have asked more questions to learn the truth so he could have done something about it.

No one else who was there supports his version.

Bowman's account of the meeting is that it was reported that Aldrich had tried to climb into bed with John Doe and that after learning of the incident, Quenneville shook his head and said that it was hard for the team to get to where they were, and they could not deal with this issue now.

Gary (the guy who reported it) specifically describes telling the group that Aldrich was pressuring John Doe for sex and threatened his career if he didn't comply. He specifically reported that during the meeting Quenneville appeared angry and was concerned about upsetting team chemistry. He also reported that 'they' decided to hold off talking to Aldrich about the situation until the season was over.

MacIsaac also remembered Gary telling the group that Aldrich tried to 'get under the sheets' with John Doe.

McDonough also stated during his interview that he believed Gary explained during the May 23 meeting what occurred, but he could only recall that Gary mentioned Aldrich’s name and how the situation was embarrassing for John Doe. He also recalled that Quenneville appeared to be agitated.

Cheveldayoff recalls that the group was told that there were allegations that Aldrich was socializing with players outside the arena, Aldrich sent inappropriate texts to players, and Aldrich made unwanted advances on players. Cheveldayoff recalled that John Doe and Black Ace 1 were specifically referenced during the meeting.

Quenneville is the only person claiming that people were being vague. Quenneville is the only person claiming that John Doe wasn't specifically brought up. Quenneville is the only person who doesn't remember whether Aldrich's name was brought up. Multiple people refute his claim that the meeting had no resolution. Two describe him as angry/agitated while a third specifically says that Quenneville was the one who first advocated to put team success over dealing with it. The report published firmly suggests that Quenneville was told exactly what happened in that meeting and was either the first or loudest voice in the room advocating to bury the information in favor of team chemistry.

And yet Quenneville maintains that his error was simply allowing the rest of the group to keep him in the dark and that if he had asked questions like he should have, maybe he could have prevented them from burying it in favor of winning some hockey games. Spare me.

Crocodile tears from a coward. I hope for nothing but the worst for him and the Ducks organization.
It’s subtle but I get the impression you’re not a fan of this hire…

But fair enough. I recall reading an article on the report I think you’re drawing from but it was years ago and I didn’t read the actual report. But yes, sounds like all involved were in the wrong, including Q.
 
Can Mavrik Bourque play center at all? 5'11", 181 lbs. Right-shot. Heck of a junior and AHL track-record. Dallas is up against it cap wise...
I haven’t watched a ton of Stars games but what I can that as a rookie this season he scored 11 goals, 25 pts in 73 games. He averaged 12:41 min/game, winning 161 faceoffs while losing 187 for a 46.3% winning %.

That’s enough faceoffs to tell me he must’ve played center at least part of the season but that’s not a ton of faceoffs. Even for 12:41/game. So he probably played some wing too. But that’s not actually a bad winning % for a rookie. No doubt he’d get better over time. But I don’t really know enough about the player to know if he truly projects as a C going forward or more as a wing. Maybe someone else here has seen him more. I am almost 100% stat watching.
 
He was the first person the Ducks organization was considering once they fired their coach, according to sources. Given what Brian said, I don't believe for a second that Quenneville (and Bowman and the other higher-ups, for that matter) is suddenly "remorseful"; he's just wanting to say anything he can to get a job.

I wish I was surprised. I knew that this was going to happen eventually. I'm just glad it didn't happen with our organization.
It stinks, but I don’t really care that much. There is no such thing as justice, so whatever.
 
Might be nausea inducing but Wilson is a great player. Just a mad man along the boards 6 on 5 that led to an ENG to ice it.
I was impressed to see him yell Heads Up to the guy he was about to plaster the other day. That doesn’t seem like something you do if you’re deliberately trying to hurt someone.
 
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I was impressed to see him yell Heads Up to the guy he was about to plaster the other day. That doesn’t seem like something you do if you’re deliberately trying to hurt someone.
People hate the guy and I get it but he & Bennett can play on my team anyday...Wilson's hit on Carrier in Game 4 literally changed the series...same way Schenn's hit on Scheifele nearly decided the outcome in our series. It might be 2025 and the game has changed but you still need a few players who toe the line to succeed in the playoffs.
 
The Jets' defence and Hellebuyck played extremely well in their 4-0 shutout of The Stars. And their offence was working well again, with Villardi scoring a power play goal, Ehlers scoring 2 goals, and Lowrey scoring as well. Things are looking up for The Jets. We'll see if they play as well on the road. Meanwhile, The Oilers lead The Golden Knights 2-0.
 
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This is the year the cup returns to Canada
It’s looking plausible.

If Winnipeg does something special this year, that miraculous comeback and the legend of sticking with Meltdown Hellebuyck will become huge.

That said, Dallas outplayed the Jets that game if not for the goaltending. We’ll see what happens in Texas.
 

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