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Around the NHL — Episode XLXVII

I've been very happy with Staios work so far but IMO he really needs to do something about our drafting philosophy and revamp the scouting department, we need to start drafting for skill, speed and hockey IQ

Hawks are another team that have amassed an impressive amount of young talent, it's about to pay off.

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PlayOn said:
He wanted to go to Philly, Friedman reported on it. Sounds like he basically forced his way there.
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IIRC Georges Laraque had the same info and before Friedman so yeah, apparently, he didn't want to go to any of the #2-6 pick cities

JD1 said:
Don't tell @Xspyrit
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lol I already answered that post.

Don't you have ultra biased votes to make in the polls section?
 
Xspyrit said:
I'll start by saying this :

In the mainboards poll "Asset Value - where does Nick Suzuki rank in the NHL?", I see that you voted "Nick Suzuki is outside the top 50 most valuable assets in the NHL" which indicates a CLEAR bias so I think people should take what you're saying on the subject with a grain of salt.



Irrelevant? It's just a chronological reference, similar as to when Ottawa made the ECF in 2017 and then we realized we had to rebuild the following season. A chronological point to refer to the last time they were trying to compete.



The underlying data for a team that just started rebuilding (Kent Hughes became GM in January 2022, just a bit over 3 years ago) is not that important. I actually find it worse that some of their players can impact the game enough to outplay the expectations. Suzuki, Caufield and Hutson carried that team all season while some vets like Evans, Armia, Gallagher, etc also played a big role. Plus, Montembeault and Dobes had a lot of games where they played lights out.



Why do I have to repeat? Size arguments in 2025 are outdated to me. Can they win the Cup? Well that's another story but Canucks don't seem to complain much about having Quinn Hughes as their #1D (The Vancouver Canucks are 45-45-12 without and 214-166-51 with Quinn Hughes all-time).

Hutson just turned 21 y/o. Guhle might be a #2/3 but he's only 23 so he can still improve. Matheson just turned 31 and Carrier is 28 so they could still help them for years. Reinbacher is 20, Mailloux and Engström are 21, Struble is 23. Konyushkov is not a sure thing to cross over but he is 22 and has good potential.



Well, something else that was already answered... Did you even read my post? lol

Outside of the Ds I just named, they mainly have Ivan Demidov (seen as the best prospect in the world), Michael Hage and Jacob Fowler. Beck will be a good 3rd line C, Roy is still unknown but the guy has talent. Kapanen and Heineman are also interesting and then there's several others who have a chance.

But seriously, just Demidov, Reinbacher, Hage and Fowler could really make their team much better in the next few years.



Well, that's a bit chauvinist. I used to say that Stutzle >> Suzuki but right now, Nick has 6 more goals and 12 more points... He never misses a game and is as clutch as you can be. I hope it changes as soon as next year but right now Tim doesn't have the edge.

Stutzle vs Suzuki
Tkachuk vs Slafkovsky
Batherson vs Demidov
Zetterlund vs Caufield
Cozens vs Dach
Pinto vs Hage
Greig vs Beck
Halliday vs Newhook

Sanderson vs Hutson
Chabot vs Matheson
Kleven vs Guhle
Zub vs Carrier
Yakemchuk vs Reinbacher
Donovan vs Engström
Eliasson vs Mailloux

Merilainen vs Fowler
Sogaard vs Dobes


Dorion sabotaged our rebuild as much as he could, we don't have much if any young talent infusion coming up. I tried to give the edge to Sens players as much as I can here so it looks good right now but considering the progression of some of their guys plus the fact that Demidov, Slafkovsky, Hage, etc have a lot of room to grow, it could change and that is the point : the risk is there

Boston declined, Buffalo and Detroit are spinning wheels, Tampa and Toronto could decline in the next few years, Florida look like they could be good for a while but I see a path/opportunity for Ottawa to become the best team in the Atlantic. I think that the biggest threats for us might be the Panthers and Habs. Well, the Lightning too because even if you think they are due for a decline, their management is so smart (look how they moved on from Stamkos to Guentzel) so unpredictable.
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I can't believe you actually searched thru post history to see if and how I might have voted on a hab player. A little obsessive don't you think?

Here's start of the season top 50 lists from both sportsnet and tsn. Suzuki is 47 on one list. Not on the other list.

Sportsnet Insiders rank the NHL’s top 50 players: 10-1
Connor McDavid, Nathan MacKinnon and Auston Matthews top TSN's Top 50 NHL Player list | TSN

Yes he's had a good year. But is it really a clear bias when TSN doesn't even have him on their list? Oh I know, I know, you'll bookmark the post and be back here in September when he moves up a bit.

Size doesn't matter to you. It's probably less important in beer league but it matters in the nhl and it matters when they're playing for keeps. Hutson's lack of size will follow him around his whole career and he'll be a polarizing player until he wins. Which he may not.

They have some good wingers. But that doesn't get you very far in the nhl.

At the end of the day, you're entitled to your views. But you're on a Sens board and you've been pumping the Habs for years. You should expect a little push back. Or at least start your posts with "Habs fan coming in peace"

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Xspyrit said:
They already have Suzuki who matches Stu, a bit better at the moment. He's their Batherson but obviously going to be much more impactful

Stutzle vs Suzuki
Tkachuk vs Slafkovsky
Batherson vs Demidov
Zetterlund vs Caufield
Cozens vs Dach
Pinto vs Hage
Greig vs Beck
Halliday vs Newhook

Let's hope that Slaf doesn't develop too much and becomes jealous of Demidov

We really need Stutzle and Cozens to go boom next year.



Our scouting staff is probably saying at the moment

"pfff, Tyler Boucher is bigger and would survive in the playoffs.... derp"
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He plays more like Stutzle though. Unfortunately we have no Suzuki. We need a Hutson too but maybe Yakemxhuck can fill that hole.

Hope we wise up and start going for hockey IQ throughout the draft.
 
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Demisov is doing great for his 1st game. But it's only one game but talent is obvious there. Stu is more skilled and the better player for me. So if Demidov and Hutson are the most skilled player on habs Stutzle and Sanderson are superior player for me . Add to that Tkachuk >>>Slafovsky. Batherson is probably on par with Suzuki or caufield. So where we lack is that 5 -6th guy as I think they have better talent there .
 
Stutzlaaaa said:
Demisov is doing great for his 1st game. But it's only one game but talent is obvious there. Stu is more skilled and the better player for me. So if Demidov and Hutson are the most skilled player on habs Stutzle and Sanderson are superior player for me . Add to that Tkachuk >>>Slafovsky. Batherson is probably on par with Suzuki or caufield. So where we lack is that 5 -6th guy as I think they have better talent there .
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Suzuki is currently better than every player on the Sens not named Sanderson
 
BondraTime said:
Because he’s been phenomenal this year as a 2 way forward?

Was talking about talent not production , this year sens productions is no good offensively cause they played new system focus on defense. Ye Batherson skill wise is on the same level as Suzuki , Suzuki is better defensively and is faster.Bather has better hands and physical play.

Why is Batherson in par with him, because he’s a Sen?
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Just a year ago production of Habs was not that good pepole were saying league wide that Suzuki is not a true 1C but an elite 2C . Saying that he is more talented then whole Sens is far from true.
 
Stutzlaaaa said:
Demisov is doing great for his 1st game. But it's only one game but talent is obvious there. Stu is more skilled and the better player for me. So if Demidov and Hutson are the most skilled player on habs Stutzle and Sanderson are superior player for me . Add to that Tkachuk >>>Slafovsky. Batherson is probably on par with Suzuki or caufield. So where we lack is that 5 -6th guy as I think they have better talent there .
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Suzuki is way ahead of Batherson its not close.
 
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