Around the NHL — Episode XLXVII
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Another easy call to make before the season. That trade was going to be a disaster no matter what
At least Jensen might give us 2 quality seasons
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Corrado on 1200 discusses picks
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Apparently Brady will be on Team USA, and Sanderson is on the fringe, not sure when that gets announced though.
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Sucks Batherson didn’t make it when you see Konecky there - Torts has his players working the details, Ottawa not so much, that’s why Konekcubisnkn thee team and not Batherson and that’s why Philly is in a playoff spot snd Ottawa is 29th in the NHL
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Konecky plays a grittier game well suited for a 4th line and is currently producing better too.
Philly in a playoff spot, well, sort of. TBL have two games in hand to bump them right out, so I don't expect that to last.
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And has a better motor. Bath is a nice player but for that role I'd go with Konecny
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Yeah. When Bath decides to use his size, he can be really effective, but it's just not his game so you only see it a couple times a year. Maybe in a short tournament, he might flip that switch, but there's no way of knowing, so I'd take Konecny too.
Anyone could tell we overpaid in that deal
Not really impressed with management rn. You don't need to trade a quality player like say Batherson to add to the defense. You need to be able to evaluate talent and jump at chances when teams are making moves. Fabbro and Wahlman are perfect examples of good players who you could have had for minimal returns. Branny is another...would have been much better use of money than having Kleven every night
Cirelli and Bennett being on the team is a joke, even if you want someone defensive. Robert Thomas and Nick Suzuki are better players than those two in every tangible aspect
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Thomas is coming off a broken ankle, I'm not sure if that's playing into the decision.
Cirelli is having a really strong season, as is Bennett, both are pt per game, and Bennett adds a lot of grit. I don't see any issue with them on the team given the role they'll be playing.
Thomas had a nasty injury, but since he's come back he's been his usual self. A beast on the dot, scoring, and playing strong defensively and Suzuki can play all situations too, both are so much better suited on the bottom 6 to gain possession and shut down opposing lines.
Never understood the point of having grit in an international tournament. Other teams have star players with more grit (USA for example), and we're not going to be them trying to match up a line with Bennet and Cirelli against them. High skill always comes out on top in international hockey
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Cirelli is maybe the best penalty killer in the game so for sure he deserves to be there.
And Bennett just has such a good cell for the temperature of a game, also deserves to be there.
What’s Suzuki going to do on this team - give power play advise to Sidney Crosby?
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You need guys that can play different roles and different brands of hockey in these best on best tournaments
this is an old article with comments from the players in the 1987 Canada cup which to me was as good as hockey gets in that 3 game series vs Russia
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Being on good teams that win more than they lose could be a factor too. Suzuki being on such a shit basement team can't help his case. Almost every player on that roster is on a winning team.
What does the bolded even mean lol? Bennett can't play bottom 6 effectively considering how bad he is defensively. He's a -5 on a team that has a +11 goal differential and tied for 3rd worst on his team among forwards, isn't good on the dot, and the Panthers have a negative goal differential when he's on the ice. Such an odd choice.
I can see the rationale for having Cirelli based off his PK ability, but Bennett is an outlier on that roster.
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Those guys bring more jam than suzuki.. I like him as a player just like I like Batherson but if you want guys that can really check and grind they picked better players for that
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The counterpoint to that argument is that Suzuki and Thomas are leading their teams in PP TOI/g, while Bennett and Cirelli are on the 2nd units, sometimes being on worse teams gives you more opportunity than you'd otherwise get to produce.
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I agree but does it have to be a defensive specialist from Tampa? I am old enough to remember when we took Rob Zaumner from Tampa to the olympics as a defensive specialist... I think I have PTSD from that still
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Cirelli is a point per game right now,, Zamner had what, 26 pts the year we brought him to the olympics?
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I like what Cirelli brings (this year) but I am leery of Guys brought for their defense only. Despite a great start this year, Cirelli's best year ever was last year at 45 points. Zaumner when he went to the Olympics was coming off his best year ever of 50 points and a great world championship the previous spring.
Guys ho historically are closer to 0.5 PPG that go on a hot streak and put up PPG over 20 games are still not PPG players.
This may work out but there is more risk in taking a Cirelli over a Thomas or a Suzuki
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Hagel and konecny were locked in quite early in my opinion. 2of the best 5v5 players in the past 2 years, not everyone will play the powerplay. Konecny is very impressive playing with nor very good offensive players for years.
Too bad Thomas got hurt I thought he was the biggest snub. Weegar had to have been close.
Too bad Thomas got hurt I thought he was the biggest snub. Weegar had to have been close.
