Around the NHL — Episode XLXVII

[guyzeur]

Not sure if this has been posted anywhere:

Formenton files $20.5 million lawsuit against Newport Sports, agent Wade Arnott | TSN

One-time Ottawa Senators forward, who is facing a sexual assault charge in London, Ont., has filed a lawsuit against his former agent, Rick Westhead writes.

www.tsn.ca

I've read it too and was surprised no thread about it

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Not sure if this has been posted anywhere:

Formenton files $20.5 million lawsuit against Newport Sports, agent Wade Arnott | TSN

One-time Ottawa Senators forward, who is facing a sexual assault charge in London, Ont., has filed a lawsuit against his former agent, Rick Westhead writes.

www.tsn.ca

Was just reading that. Not overly relevant to the Senators anymore with him almost assuredly never playing in Ottawa again, but interesting nonetheless. Sounds like he'd like that QO opportunity back.

 

[Hale The Villain]

They traded the older goalie and kept the young one who had just as good numbers and more potential.

They definitely kept the right one and any team would’ve kept Swayman over Ullmark.

Definitely could argue they should’ve kept Ullmark this season though or at least waited until Swayman is signed to trade Ullmark. It was poorly played by Boston and the negotiation went public. Now Swayman, coming in with no training camp, has even more pressure. Boston as an organization really f***ed up this entire situation.

Not worried for Swayman though. 8 games won’t undo what he did over 100+ games.

No one takes Ullmark over Swayman if the cost to acquire and re-sign either one is the same, but I think there's an argument given their future looks to be mediocre after contending for so long, perhaps keeping the older goalie made sense if they could have gotten a lot more in return for Swayman this summer and not had to take on a cap dump like Korpisalo in the deal.

Ullmark + Bussi/DiPieto = 5.75M cap hit this season, probably 7-8M next year and beyond (don't think Ullmark even gets 8M in Boston, probably takes a longer deal at less money like 7M x 7YRs)

vs.

Swayman + Korpisalo = 11.25M for the next 4 seasons

Could have kept a guy like DeBrusk with the cap savings, or spent the 5M in space a different way to improve the roster. Add in an another significant asset or two by getting more for Swayman (due to no NTC limiting his market) and I think Boston may have been better off trading Swayman.

Judgement call either way IMO.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Not sure if this has been posted anywhere:

Formenton files $20.5 million lawsuit against Newport Sports, agent Wade Arnott | TSN

One-time Ottawa Senators forward, who is facing a sexual assault charge in London, Ont., has filed a lawsuit against his former agent, Rick Westhead writes.

www.tsn.ca

If I was Anthony Duclair, I would be watching this lawsuit very closely. If Formenton successfully sues his agent for receiving bad career advice, that means that Anthony Duclair could be sued by Anthony Duclair for how he mishandled his contract in the 2020 offseason.

Luckily for Duclair, it worked out in the end, but I'd still be worried.

 

[Emerica]

Just a gentle reminder that we could easily have taken Drysdale over Sanderson

I was on team Drysdale for sure at the time

 

[Micklebot]

If I was Anthony Duclair, I would be watching this lawsuit very closely. If Formenton successfully sues his agent for receiving bad career advice, that means that Anthony Duclair could be sued by Anthony Duclair for how he mishandled his contract in the 2020 offseason.

Luckily for Duclair, it worked out in the end, but I'd still be worried.

Didn't Duclair decide to represent himself rather than follow his agent's advice? Not sure how you sue for that...

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

No one takes Ullmark over Swayman if the cost to acquire and re-sign either one is the same, but I think there's an argument given their future looks to be mediocre after contending for so long, perhaps keeping the older goalie made sense if they could have gotten a lot more in return for Swayman this summer and not had to take on a cap dump like Korpisalo in the deal.

Ullmark + Bussi/DiPieto = 5.75M cap hit this season, probably 7-8M next year and beyond (don't think Ullmark even gets 8M in Boston, probably takes a longer deal at less money like 7M x 7YRs)

vs.

Swayman + Korpisalo = 11.25M for the next 4 seasons

Could have kept a guy like DeBrusk with the cap savings, or spent the 5M in space a different way to improve the roster. Add in an another significant asset or two by getting more for Swayman (due to no NTC limiting his market) and I think Boston may have been better off trading Swayman.

Judgement call either way IMO.

Heading in, I would have said Swayman hands down, but this is a reasonable argument.

With the contract Ullmark ultimately signed, it is a pretty perfect deal, and not having to take on an albatross Korpse, while presumably getting more in return for Swayman may have been a better play. Using said cap space to potentially keep a guy like DeBrusk in house just adds to that. Still not a slam dunk, but certainly gives some thought.

Didn't Duclair decide to represent himself rather than follow his agent's advice? Not sure how you sue for that...

This time you missed the joke... you'd better meme yourself

 

[Tuna99]

Not sure if this has been posted anywhere:

Formenton files $20.5 million lawsuit against Newport Sports, agent Wade Arnott | TSN

One-time Ottawa Senators forward, who is facing a sexual assault charge in London, Ont., has filed a lawsuit against his former agent, Rick Westhead writes.

www.tsn.ca

What a massive bullet the Sens dodged by having Formenton refuse his qualifying offer. For how fragile the ownership and management was to have that massive cloud attached to Batherson as well, what a nightmare. Batherson really got some slings thrown at him when the new broke and he stayed quiet about it

Anyways, very lucky Formenton rejected the qualifying offer, would have been dark clouds around here when our Sens ship was already in deep water

 

[Micklebot]

This time you missed the joke... you'd better meme yourself

 

[SpezDispenser]

I was on team Drysdale for sure at the time

Perhaps me too, ngl

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Didn't Duclair decide to represent himself rather than follow his agent's advice? Not sure how you sue for that...

The joke is that he was his own agent that summer. The humor is based around both subjects of the joke being the same person, and how absurd it would be for Anthony Duclair to be worried that he will sue himself.

 

[Micklebot]

The joke is that he was his own agent that summer. The humor is based around both subjects of the joke being the same person, and how absurd it would be for Anthony Duclair to be worried that he will sue himself.

How long do I have to wear the ceci jersey for in the corner to repent for my sins?

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Not accepting his QO was a terrible move.

Even if he only got two more seasons at 6 figures, you also have to factor in the NHLPA pension. I may be misunderstanding the formula, but each full season is apparently with 27.5k.

It was nearly guaranteed that he would be in the NHL. 20 goals the previous year. So assuming I'm not misunderstanding the pension, he basically lost 55K a year at age 62.

My guess is that his agent knew he was done playing because of the allegations, and tried to gamble on securing one big payday.

I wont pretend to know if he has a case, but based on my Internet law degree I would guess that they would settle with him because they won't want to risk setting a precedent where a player can claim that the agent didn't sit down with him and read off the entire Cap friendly FAQ prior to advising him on a contract decision.

How long do I have to wear the ceci jersey for in the corner to repent for my sins?

Wearing a Ceci jersey is not punishment. You've gotta wear a Legwand jersey.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Not sure if this has been posted anywhere:

Formenton files $20.5 million lawsuit against Newport Sports, agent Wade Arnott | TSN

One-time Ottawa Senators forward, who is facing a sexual assault charge in London, Ont., has filed a lawsuit against his former agent, Rick Westhead writes.

www.tsn.ca

Hope he wins it