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[odin1981]

I feel bad saying this but with sports betting involved with pro sports now I think legitimate professional sports is dead in the water now. Not in just one sport, unilaterally across all league's.

I look at the past draft for basketball and how in the past 20 year's 4 or 5 drafts have been "won" by 2% or less chance to win teams. Most professional sports no longer showing the actual balls dropping in the lottery. If you aren't a big market team in whatever league your just going to become a farm team for the big teams like in baseball.

Like to circle back to basketball a 25/26 year old top 5 player in the league was traded for a top 12 who is 32 and has missed half the regular season games in his career he has been eligible to play in for 1 first round pick and some scrub roster player. Oh and guess whose team "won" the draft? Yep the team that made the trade. Oh and the team that got the borderline generational player just one of the top 2 teams in the league as far as winning the most titles in the history of the league.

Professional Sports as a whole is gonna become a joke over the next decade. As the corruption of betting takes hold.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I believe he is outperforming the #1 in said draft the last two years.

By points, yes. Lafreniere is also the 5th player in the top 6 that’s leaned on. He’s behind Kreider, Zib, Trocheck, Miller. So he’s getting minimal PP time. He’s still a good player but he’s only got 4 power play points this season and 6 the season before which tells me he’s not being utilized there. The other guys got between 24 and 44 last season, and between 12 and 26 this season. (The rangers power play took a dump this year.)

Lafreniere’s even strength scoring is pretty good, all things considered. I don’t expect him to be a game breaking 85+ point winger (That’s likely Raymond) but a 65-70 point contributor? I can imagine that.

 

[Frk It]

I feel bad saying this but with sports betting involved with pro sports now I think legitimate professional sports is dead in the water now. Not in just one sport, unilaterally across all league's.

I look at the past draft for basketball and how in the past 20 year's 4 or 5 drafts have been "won" by 2% or less chance to win teams. Most professional sports no longer showing the actual balls dropping in the lottery. If you aren't a big market team in whatever league your just going to become a farm team for the big teams like in baseball.

Like to circle back to basketball a 25/26 year old top 5 player in the league was traded for a top 12 who is 32 and has missed half the regular season games in his career he has been eligible to play in for 1 first round pick and some scrub roster player. Oh and guess whose team "won" the draft? Yep the team that made the trade. Oh and the team that got the borderline generational player just one of the top 2 teams in the league as far as winning the most titles in the history of the league.

Professional Sports as a whole is gonna become a joke over the next decade. As the corruption of betting takes hold.

That is taking one team in one sport defying lottery odds pretty far, in my opinion.

 

[odin1981]

That is taking one team in one sport defying lottery odds pretty far, in my opinion.

In the past 20 years 4 other teams have hit the #1 with under 2% odds of doing so. While not impossible, that is extremely unlikely. 20-25% of the time what is normally a 1 in 50 or worse has happened?

I understand that statistical outliers can happen. But that is trending far too often.

 

[Frk It]

In the past 20 years 4 other teams have hit the #1 with under 2% odds of doing so. While not impossible, that is extremely unlikely. 20-25% of the time what is normally a 1 in 50 or worse has happened?

I understand that statistical outliers can happen. But that is trending far too often.

Yeah I don’t know, another reason to do away with the stupid lottery in my book. lol.

But why rig it for Dallas? Seems like Chicago would be a better market to rig it for.

The only lottery hijinx I can think of I buy into is Pittsburgh getting Crosby on the verge of talks of the franchise getting moved. I mean how convenient can you get…

I say this as someone who doesn’t get too wrapped up in conspiracies though… aside from there maybe being an alliance between the Chiefs and the refs.

 

[saska sault]

Yeah I don’t know, another reason to do away with the stupid lottery in my book. lol.

But why rig it for Dallas? Seems like Chicago would be a better market to rig it for.

The only lottery hijinx I can think of I buy into is Pittsburgh getting Crosby on the verge of talks of the franchise getting moved. I mean how convenient can you get…

I say this as someone who doesn’t get too wrapped up in conspiracies though… aside from there maybe being an alliance between the Chiefs and the refs.

Dallas has new owners.. league helping them out.

As a Raptor fan it was tough to watch the team try to do an "ethical tank" fully knowing they would likely drop in the lottery regardless.. Flagg to Dallas saving Nico his job after gifting Luka to the Lakers. It seems fishy that's for sure.

 

[odin1981]

Yeah I don’t know, another reason to do away with the stupid lottery in my book. lol.

But why rig it for Dallas? Seems like Chicago would be a better market to rig it for.

The only lottery hijinx I can think of I buy into is Pittsburgh getting Crosby on the verge of talks of the franchise getting moved. I mean how convenient can you get…

I say this as someone who doesn’t get too wrapped up in conspiracies though… aside from there maybe being an alliance between the Chiefs and the refs.

To me it is mainly more about having the drawings publicly visible. Not saying that those still can't be manipulated. But keeping drawings hidden to me is just fishy and most of the North American leagues are moving towards that.

Dallas from my limited understanding was thought of potentially being ruined by the owner so he could move the franchise to Vegas. But I don't follow basketball that closely so I can't say for sure on that. The last time I followed basketball closely Jordan was still in the league.

 

[ricky0034]

In the past 20 years 4 other teams have hit the #1 with under 2% odds of doing so. While not impossible, that is extremely unlikely. 20-25% of the time what is normally a 1 in 50 or worse has happened?

I understand that statistical outliers can happen. But that is trending far too often.

except that 1 in 50 is actually more like a 1 in 20 for a team with under 2% odds to win because there's multiple teams with under 2% odds, and also you're including a team that had 2.8% odds and a team that had 3% odds in that which in those cases is actually more like 1 in 12 when you add the other teams in

low odds teams have still gotten lucky in that timeframe but you're dramatically overstating how much(and those same teams have also had 0 second or third overall picks in that same timeframe so they've actually gotten unlucky in the lotteries for the other picks)

To me it is mainly more about having the drawings publicly visible. Not saying that those still can't be manipulated. But keeping drawings hidden to me is just fishy and most of the North American leagues are moving towards that.

Dallas from my limited understanding was thought of potentially being ruined by the owner so he could move the franchise to Vegas. But I don't follow basketball that closely so I can't say for sure on that. The last time I followed basketball closely Jordan was still in the league.

except in reality the whole thing is actually incredibly transparent

just like the NHL the NBA does in fact record a video of the drawing itself



just like the NHL every team involved in the lottery chooses a representative to watch the whole thing live in person and the whole thing is overseen by a major accounting firm with yearly revenues that dwarf the NBA

 

[GarlicbreadTB]

 

[Run the Jewels]

Makes me wonder what Dylan Larkin thinks about LA? They were a 100+ point team last season, pretty good team despite getting bounced by the Oil for like 4 straight years. He’s not an elite 1C but their fanbase wants a 1C and 1D and Larkin could be part of the solution given they are retooling not rebuilding.

 

[GMR]

How does this fraud keep getting these opportunities?

 

[SoupNazi]

lol Leafs.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

I seriously thought that was a meme or parody post or something.

Setting aside what I think about Kenny’s abilities at this point, they couldn’t find a better picture of the guy? Minus the background it could be his mugshot from DUI after a holiday party.

 

[FMichael]

How does this fraud keep getting these opportunities?

Just when you think he's out - they pull him back in...

I seriously thought that was a meme or parody post or something.

Setting aside what I think about Kenny’s abilities at this point, they couldn’t find a better picture of the guy? Minus the background it could be his mugshot from DUI after a holiday party.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

How does this fraud keep getting these opportunities?

Old Boys Club

 

[SantosHalper]

I seriously thought that was a meme or parody post or something.

Setting aside what I think about Kenny’s abilities at this point, they couldn’t find a better picture of the guy? Minus the background it could be his mugshot from DUI after a holiday party.

"Would you buy a used car from this man"

Photo used by Minnesota was also hilarious, by the looks of it Guerin had a bender before the presser.

 

[GMR]

"Would you buy a used car from this man"

Photo used by Minnesota was also hilarious, by the looks of it Guerin had a bender before the presser.
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As long as he's not driving during the test run.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

"Would you buy a used car from this man"

Photo used by Minnesota was also hilarious, by the looks of it Guerin had a bender before the presser.
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Good lord. Who works in the media departments for these teams??

My niece could've taken a better picture on her phone using a filter.

 

[Winger98]

Good lord. Who works in the media departments for these teams??

My niece could've taken a better picture on her phone using a filter.

Marco Rossi's cousin.

 

[Run the Jewels]

With Holland apparently repeating over and over that the Kings had 105 points last year, that was basically the equivalent of shaking his booty in Dylan Larkin’s face. I’m growing more confident Larkin will be traded soon.

 

[ricky0034]

"Would you buy a used car from this man"

Photo used by Minnesota was also hilarious, by the looks of it Guerin had a bender before the presser.
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Good lord. Who works in the media departments for these teams??

My niece could've taken a better picture on her phone using a filter.

now i'm morbidly curious what Yzerman's from 6 years ago looked like(i've forgotten)

 

[GarlicbreadTB]

Holland mentioned Detroit a lot in his LA press conference lmao. I think he misses us.

 

[saska sault]

Holland mentioned Detroit a lot in his LA press conference lmao. I think he misses us.

The feeling is not mutual.

 

[saska sault]

Ovechkin is a legend but nice to see them out. If he even attempted back checking once in a while...

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Ovechkin is a legend but nice to see them out. If he even attempted back checking once in a while...

I mostly agree but it's not like Canes hockey sets the world on fire. I'm surprised the Capitals made it to the second round. I don't follow them closely but figured they were first round fodder again. Were the Canadiens really that bad??