Around the League: You Like Mammoth?

[SeawaterOnIce]

The Oilers look like the team to beat this year and I wonder how some Cancun fans would feel with an Oiler Leafs SC finals eh?

I will buy a Rantanen Dallas Stars jersey if they take down Edmonton and Toronto.

 

[wetcoast]

I will buy a Rantanen Dallas Stars jersey if they take down Edmonton and Toronto.

Fair enough great player and pretty decent jerseys too.

I also love the green lighting Dallas has for their home games in the aisles.

I had before the playoffs as the winner of the Avs/Stars series being the SC winners but like I said the Oilers looked dialed in.

 

[rypper]

I will buy a Rantanen Dallas Stars jersey if they take down Edmonton and Toronto.

Can it be their alternate "Uterus" logo? I know Rantanen never wore it but you can't deny a classic.



/s

 

[Flik]

I think this Tweet sums up enough of his involvement to make my skin crawl.




While I do think Beach's feelings are of significant importance, I also feel like it's a bit of a cop out for the league. I can't imagine that's exactly a pressure-free situation for Beach to have the NHL call him up to seek his permission to hire people for prominent roles. What if he says no? What if that leaks? What if people attack him for it? I don't think it's a fair situation to put a victim in, and it's something that's been held up as a paper shield for both Stan Bowman and Joel Quenneville now - the two men who, arguably, had the most power to step in and protect Beach when this was happening and failed to do so. And their silence also lead to their being more victims. Were they consulted about this?

Again - I fully respect Kyle Beach's feelings and opinions. But it just feels wrong that they even go to him to ask. It shouldn't even be a question.

EDIT: Also, the whole report on the situation is available online, with "what the Blackhawks knew" beginning on Pg. 38: https://www.jenner.com/a/web/8kmbgF...icago-blackhawks-hockey-team-october-2021.pdf

f***ing disgusting, this league is embarrassing and shame on the Ducks, like gtfo with this shit man, there are plenty of good coaches out there.

 

[IHaveNoCreativity]

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She later went on to say she wasn’t physically stopped.

 

[Huggy43]

Anyone defending the hiring of Q is an immediate red flag.

 

[VanJack]

LOL! How long will Joel Quenneville and Trevor Zegras last in the same dressing-room? In fact hiring this fossil to coach a young team like the Ducks, might be the biggest blunder of this off-season.

But Anaheim is a Pacific Division opponent, so better there than here. Maybe Zegras is a 'buy-low' candidate for the Canucks?

I'm having trouble remembering any major trades between the Ducks and Canucks since Ryan Kesler left town. Seems to me they also acquired Luke Schenn from the Ducks at one time.

 

[vancityluongo]

Guess this partially answers my question of whether any other victims were consulted;

previous comment fully rescinded. that's brutal and disheartening

wonder how the ducks roster feels about this. surely there are a few players who are at the very least, uncomfortable here?

to an earlier point - even if quenneville has done the absolute most in terms of reparations here... why open this can of worms at all?

 

[racerjoe]

She later went on to say she wasn’t physically stopped.

Oh in that case...

Ask your female friends how many have walked home to their car or anywhere really with their keys between their fingers.

You don't need be physically stopped to feel threatened pressured or anything like that.

 

[rypper]

She later went on to say she wasn’t physically stopped.

This line of thinking is pretty gross dude.

 

[IHaveNoCreativity]

Oh in that case...

Ask your female friends how many have walked home to their car or anywhere really with their keys between their fingers.

You don't need be physically stopped to feel threatened pressured or anything like that.

I’m literally just reporting what’s been in court.

 

[IHaveNoCreativity]

This line of thinking is pretty gross dude.

Im just adding what she said in court.

I should have clarified she was asked if she was physically stopped from leaving the room to which she said no she was not.

 

[IHaveNoCreativity]

Anyone defending the hiring of Q is an immediate red flag.

Wasn’t it found that he didn’t handle it adequately ? And wasn’t Bowman the one who swept everything under the rug ?

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Wasn’t it found that he didn’t handle it adequately ? And wasn’t Bowman the one who swept everything under the rug ?

Post in thread 'Around the League: You Like Mammoth?'

Thursday at 1:31 PM

It's one thing for the league to re-instate the guy, I don't necessarily agree or disagree with it, I don't know enough about JQ's involvement in the events...but why would a team bring in a guy with this kind of baggage? You're inviting someone with a sketchy past where he, at worst protected a sexual predator, and at best turned a blind eye to it...these are breaches of trust with a player. How do you expect players to trust and go to war with you after this? Would the players and staff have any respect for the guy? Would they work for him without any underlying resentments or...

• Mr. Canucklehead

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Both Bowman and Quenneville failed repeatedly. I think there's a really strong argument to be made that Quenneville's positive reference for Aldrich is what allowed him to go and coach at a school and subsequently victimize a child, which is pretty f***ing insidious. I'm of the opinion that neither of them should be allowed back into the league.

 

[andora]

Post in thread 'Around the League: You Like Mammoth?'

Thursday at 1:31 PM

It's one thing for the league to re-instate the guy, I don't necessarily agree or disagree with it, I don't know enough about JQ's involvement in the events...but why would a team bring in a guy with this kind of baggage? You're inviting someone with a sketchy past where he, at worst protected a sexual predator, and at best turned a blind eye to it...these are breaches of trust with a player. How do you expect players to trust and go to war with you after this? Would the players and staff have any respect for the guy? Would they work for him without any underlying resentments or...

• Mr. Canucklehead

• 

Both Bowman and Quenneville failed repeatedly. I think there's a really strong argument to be made that Quenneville's positive reference for Aldrich is what allowed him to go and coach at a school and subsequently victimize a child, which is pretty f***ing insidious. I'm of the opinion that neither of them should be allowed back into the league.

This type of shit justifies bring back stonings

 

[IHaveNoCreativity]

Post in thread 'Around the League: You Like Mammoth?'

Thursday at 1:31 PM

It's one thing for the league to re-instate the guy, I don't necessarily agree or disagree with it, I don't know enough about JQ's involvement in the events...but why would a team bring in a guy with this kind of baggage? You're inviting someone with a sketchy past where he, at worst protected a sexual predator, and at best turned a blind eye to it...these are breaches of trust with a player. How do you expect players to trust and go to war with you after this? Would the players and staff have any respect for the guy? Would they work for him without any underlying resentments or...

• Mr. Canucklehead

• 

Both Bowman and Quenneville failed repeatedly. I think there's a really strong argument to be made that Quenneville's positive reference for Aldrich is what allowed him to go and coach at a school and subsequently victimize a child, which is pretty f***ing insidious. I'm of the opinion that neither of them should be allowed back into the league.

It’s mind boggling that Bowman got a job agian. That opened the door for Quenvilelle, it’s one thing if they didn’t know but f*** off they did and it’s been proven.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

It’s mind boggling that Bowman got a job agian. That opened the door for Quenvilelle, it’s one thing if they didn’t know but f*** off they did and it’s been proven.

I was absolutely livid when Bowman got allowed back in. And as usual, his way was paved by professional NHL bootlickers like Frank Seravalli. All the same "NHL Insiders" who have gone absolutely and completely silent with respect to the situation in Chicago other than to say Anaheim and Quenneville have "put in the work". Not coincidentally, the same people are all completely silent about the other John Doe's case against the Blackhawks/the league, and about the ongoing sexual assault trial involving 5 professional/former professional hockey players.

Best sport, worst league. Guys like Quenneville and Bowman shouldn't be allowed near the god damned game. It's just gross.

 

[DFAC]

I was absolutely livid when Bowman got allowed back in. And as usual, his way was paved by professional NHL bootlickers like Frank Seravalli. All the same "NHL Insiders" who have gone absolutely and completely silent with respect to the situation in Chicago other than to say Anaheim and Quenneville have "put in the work". Not coincidentally, the same people are all completely silent about the other John Doe's case against the Blackhawks/the league, and about the ongoing sexual assault trial involving 5 professional/former professional hockey players.

Best sport, worst league. Guys like Quenneville and Bowman shouldn't be allowed near the god damned game. It's just gross.

Basically all the high profile guys involved are back in top positions.

Nothing really changes, it's the old boys club. No consequences.

 

[thecupismine]

This Quenneville shit is disgusting, some franchises have zero moral integrity.

I hate that we live in a world where Kaepernick couldn’t get a backup QB job for taking a knee, but the moment a certified sexual assault enabler is reinstated he’s almost instantly hired. The league is stupid for reinstating, but the Ducks are next level dumb for hiring him to coach a team of kids after the cover up.

I hope this guy gets booed at every game he attends this year.

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

I hope Anaheim is in the basement for the next decade. f***ing gross.

 

[me2]

I hope Anaheim is in the basement for the next decade. f***ing gross.

Bowman is in the prime position to win the cup. Sadly, fate doesn't give a rat's ass how big a monster you are.

 

[Flik]

Post in thread 'Around the League: You Like Mammoth?'

Thursday at 1:31 PM

It's one thing for the league to re-instate the guy, I don't necessarily agree or disagree with it, I don't know enough about JQ's involvement in the events...but why would a team bring in a guy with this kind of baggage? You're inviting someone with a sketchy past where he, at worst protected a sexual predator, and at best turned a blind eye to it...these are breaches of trust with a player. How do you expect players to trust and go to war with you after this? Would the players and staff have any respect for the guy? Would they work for him without any underlying resentments or...

• Mr. Canucklehead

• 

Both Bowman and Quenneville failed repeatedly. I think there's a really strong argument to be made that Quenneville's positive reference for Aldrich is what allowed him to go and coach at a school and subsequently victimize a child, which is pretty f***ing insidious. I'm of the opinion that neither of them should be allowed back into the league.

That's a real good opinion over there.

For real though, not that Travis Green shit.

 

[Brookbank]

Go Leafs. I'd rather see the cup go somewhere where it would mean something to sombody. And not somewhere where it is the equivalent of the local lacrosse team here. Another cup in the state of Florida would be just terrible.

You could see the cup winning players walking around town and they got as much attention as the local lacrosse team would around Vancouver

 

[rypper]

I'm not going to hold my breath but it would be nice if some of the Anaheim players stepped up and voiced some concern like the blue jackets did when they hired Babcock.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Edmonton skating circles around Vegas.