Around the League Thread | Stop f***ing crying, bro, this isn’t Junior.

[DFAC]

You guys need to stop going onto other teams' boards and posting/trolling. Seriously, its giving us all a bad look

 

[valkynax]

Oh Boltz got their first blood revoked after goalie interference challenge from Panthers.

 

[mossey3535]

Urgh, even as a goalie I don't think a single skate blade when the goalie chooses to be on top of the crease is necessarily interference.

 

[Hit the post]

You guys need to stop going onto other teams' boards and posting/trolling. Seriously, its giving us all a bad look

Nah...

 

[mossey3535]

8 HC changes since start of 21/22 season. Hakstol was 6th longest tenure. Cooper, Bednar, Sullivan are 1-3 and won a Cup. Brindy and Keefe at 4/5. Brindy will return next season as Canes are a good team. Keefe may get the ax for the Leafs.

Add in CBS is likely to hire a new HC once they name a GM as well. Could get to 10 changes from start of 1 season to the next. Crazy.... But, in a guaranteed contract and hard cap league, not much a team can do to change things up.

Returning with Keefe was madness this season let alone next season.

 

[tradervik]

I didn't get to comment on it yesterday, but glad the Rangers swept the Caps.

Ovechkin is in Mark Messier territory now. Past his best-by date, a total defensive liability, and just cherry picking his way towards a record (with Messier it was Howe he was chasing)

Ovechkin can eff off.

 

[StreetHawk]

Returning with Keefe was madness this season let alone next season.

And they extended him....

But, would expect to see him canned plus a change in Columbus to take us to 10 HC changes. Which is pure insanity.

For context, how many GMs have been axed?

Dorian in Ott. Jarmo in Columbus.

Guys who fired their HC are Francis in SEA, Holland in Edm, Grier in SJ, Lou in NYI, Adams in Buf, Fitzgerald in NJ. Who is safe and really for how long?

 

[bossram]

It's called a rivalry. And Edmonton and Vancouver are probably at the top of the league right now in that regards. It's freaking awesome.

Sure. Rivalries are fun.

I wouldn't call an obsessive need to make paranoid comments about Edmonton at every opportunity a "rivalry", per se.

 

[Hit the post]

Returning with Keefe was madness this season let alone next season.

I used to think Jim Benning was the dumbest NHL GM in recent history; but there's others that have come along that moved him down the list without him doing a damn thing - Jim Cornette

 

[John Belushi]

If the Oilers advance to the WCF....Most of us here will probably just stop watching.

If the Canucks advance to the WCF....They'd probably set up viewing parties to root against us.

As a hockey fan, If you wouldn't want to watch a WCF with the Oiler vs one of Vegas/Dallas/Colorado, I don't know what to tell ya.

 

[Bojack Horvatman]

And they extended him....

But, would expect to see him canned plus a change in Columbus to take us to 10 HC changes. Which is pure insanity.

For context, how many GMs have been axed?

Dorian in Ott. Jarmo in Columbus.

Guys who fired their HC are Francis in SEA, Holland in Edm, Grier in SJ, Lou in NYI, Adams in Buf, Fitzgerald in NJ. Who is safe and really for how long?

Grier should be safe for another year because SJ is rebuilding. Holland should be safe unless the Kings comeback. The rest are definitely on the hot seat and could be fired with a bad start/season

 

[Hit the post]

As a hockey fan, If you wouldn't want to watch a WCF with the Oiler vs one of Vegas/Dallas/Colorado, I don't know what to tell ya.

****looks at avatar****

 

[StreetHawk]

Grier should be safe for another year because SJ is rebuilding. Holland should be safe unless the Kings comeback. The rest are definitely on the hot seat and could be fired with a bad start/season

Agreed. Lou been there for a while. Fired Trotz after a pair of final 4 trips but missed the PO in 2022. Now fired Lambert. Adams, also under pressure for Buf to make PO. Fitz, had the Hughes injury to bail him out but Meier didn't look as good and he needs to solve the goalie issue otherwise he's likely toast if they miss again.

Francis, I'd say is safe for next season, but the year after that is unknown. Holland, who knows. He's not likely to get another contract from EDM anyways. Grier, the fact he fired his HC after just 2 years isn't good for a rebuilding team. He really needed that HC to endure the bulk of the losing like Eakins and Blashill did for Ana and Det.

 

[valkynax]

And they extended him....

But, would expect to see him canned plus a change in Columbus to take us to 10 HC changes. Which is pure insanity.

For context, how many GMs have been axed?

Dorian in Ott. Jarmo in Columbus.

Guys who fired their HC are Francis in SEA, Holland in Edm, Grier in SJ, Lou in NYI, Adams in Buf, Fitzgerald in NJ. Who is safe and really for how long?

At this point I think the players are likely more of a problem.

Leafs have to move Tavares first, this guy is becoming more useless every year while taking up a mind boggling 11 million cap hit.

Not sure if Marner trade is a must but, I think his attitude is starting to stick out like a thorn in the Leafs' ass. He seems to project this superiority complex, that he himself is above criticisms, and that he doesn't have to care about or answer to anyone. No, this is not a good thing.

Speaking of which, Samsonov needs to be out. I don't know if Marner got it from him or he got it from Marner but, this guy's superiority complex borders insanity. Unlike Marner who can at least flash his skills, I don't see Samsonov being a serviceable goalie.

Look at options on those three, and get help on defense. I'm just pulling this out of my ass here but I think it'd at least be a start.

 

[StreetHawk]

Both Tavares and Marner have nmc. Though easier to move Marner since he would want a max term deal and if he wont get it in Toronto he’d probably be more willing to move on. Tavares less likely given he won’t need a max term deal. So more likely to see him stick it out.

Toronto since Matthews selection in 2016, they only have Liljegeen and Knies as drafted players in their lineup. When you pay 4 forwards $40 odd mill need some young guys to develop.

 

[WTG]

At this point I think the players are likely more of a problem.

Leafs have to move Tavares first, this guy is becoming more useless every year while taking up a mind boggling 11 million cap hit.

Not sure if Marner trade is a must but, I think his attitude is starting to stick out like a thorn in the Leafs' ass. He seems to project this superiority complex, that he himself is above criticisms, and that he doesn't have to care about or answer to anyone. No, this is not a good thing.

Speaking of which, Samsonov needs to be out. I don't know if Marner got it from him or he got it from Marner but, this guy's superiority complex borders insanity. Unlike Marner who can at least flash his skills, I don't see Samsonov being a serviceable goalie.

Look at options on those three, and get help on defense. I'm just pulling this out of my ass here but I think it'd at least be a start.

These "changes will be made" are all posturing; they know they can't really move Marner and Tavares at their cap hits. The Leafs will change their coaching staff this off-season and roll out the same core 4 for their last hurrah; then, once both Marner and Tavares are off the books, they will start making moves.

That's a WTG prediction LOCK, so it is truth

 

[valkynax]

These "changes will be made" are all posturing; they know they can't really move Marner and Tavares at their cap hits. The Leafs will change their coaching staff this off-season and roll out the same core 4 for their last hurrah; then, once both Marner and Tavares are off the books, they will start making moves.

That's a WTG prediction LOCK, so it is truth

Yeah that sounds like the most plausible scenario.

Doing so means wasting more prime years of Matthews, which...is a shame.

 

[Red]

tampa with two disallowed goals so far and now florida on the pp after a failed challenge

both of them should have counted imo, especially the second

 

[VanillaCoke]

Neither of them should've counted imo, and it's a dumb challenge considering the call on the ice.
Stay out of the crease it's rather simple.

 

[SopelFanThe3rd]

tampa with two disallowed goals so far and now florida on the pp after a failed challenge

both of them should have counted imo, especially the second

I dunno. The first one was iffy IIRC... only saw it once. but the 2nd I agree with. He turned directly into him in the crease.

 

[Vector]

Players were involved, per Kaplan:

Seattle Kraken Fanpage on Instagram: "ESPN's Emily Kaplan reported earlier today that a handful of pretty significant players on the Seattle Kraken made it clear to Ron Francis and management that they did not want to play on this team in the future

255 likes, 12 comments - krakenszn on April 29, 2024: "ESPN's Emily Kaplan reported earlier today that a handful of pretty significant players on the Seattle Kraken made it clear to Ron Franci...".

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[mossey3535]

Treliving could have done literally anything last off-season and he did nothing. All of those guys had NMC/NTC kick in July 1st and he got hired in May.

Plus everyone inside and outside the league knew the Leafs were basically either chokers or worst case completely gutless. Treliving could have easily fired Keefe and moved out either Nylander (though I wouldn't, he is arguably the best of the four) or Marner for help. Instead he added useless players around the edges.

I don't even blame him for Samsononv based on the previous year, the guy regressed hard this year.

 

[mossey3535]

As a neutral hockey fan, it should have been the Penguins. I badly wanted to see Crosby in the playoffs again and think a healthy Pens team with Guenztel would have given the Rangers a bigger roadblock. Just too unfortunate that Rust, Letang and Guentzel all went down with injuries.

Capitals will have wasted probably 5-7 years of a potential rebuild, all to allow one player to chase a record.

The Pens season was absolutely inexplicable to me though. They actually weren't all that bad but they somehow had a terrible PP with those players.

Like if they had a normal PP for a 15 game stretch they probably easily make the wild card. Jarry wasn't even as bad as people made out and Nedeljkovic was a good pickup.

Part of it was Malkin, you can't list him a big asset unless there's major bounce back next season, I was shocked how slow and ineffectual he was on the ice.

 

[LemonSauceD]

What did Hakstol even do? I remember Boeser mentioning that he went to UND because of Hakstol on the spittin chicklets podcast (Hakstol ended up joining the Flyers just before Boeser’s freshman year).

Also what’s with college coaches seemingly being ass once they coach the NHL.

 

[RobertKron]

What did Hakstol even do? I remember Boeser mentioning that he went to UND because of Hakstol on the spittin chicklets podcast (Hakstol ended up joining the Flyers just before Boeser’s freshman year).

Took them to the Frozen Four a bunch.