Around the League Thread | November Rain

VanJack

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Tanner Jeannot is back in the Kings lineup and scored a goal last night......meantime Boeser is still out for the Canucks with no firm timetable for his return.

There's really no justice for these kind of head-shots and the penalty rarely fits the crime. But what can you do?
 
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Tanner Jeannot is back in the Kings lineup and scored a goal last night......meantime Boeser is still out for the Canucks with no firm timetable for his return.

There's really no justice for these kind of head-shots and the penalty rarely fits the crime. But what can you do?
If I was calling the shots I'd probably baseline at suspension = time injured player is out, up to a maximum. 20 games? And if the player isn't injured then whatever deemed reasonable.
 

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If I was calling the shots I'd probably baseline at suspension = time injured player is out, up to a maximum. 20 games? And if the player isn't injured then whatever deemed reasonable.
The play itself has to be punished not the result. If Boeser (or Nurse) pop back up and keep on playing it shouldn't lessen the suspension as the play was just as dirty.

That's, of course, if they actually wanted to get rid of that crap in the game. But they don't. They just want to pretend to take it seriously when a guy gets hurt from the play they allow.
 
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The play itself has to be punished not the result. If Boeser (or Nurse) pop back up and keep on playing it shouldn't lessen the suspension as the play was just as dirty.

That's, of course, if they actually wanted to get rid of that crap in the game. But they don't. They just want to pretend to take it seriously when a guy gets hurt from the play they allow.

Suspensions are based on optics.

Both Boeser and Nurse skated off the ice : minor suspension.

If the exact same play had required a stretcher and it got traction in the US media and looked bad for the league, it is 10-15 games.
 
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Suspensions are based on optics.

Both Boeser and Nurse skated off the ice : minor suspension.

If the exact same play had required a stretcher and it got traction in the US media and looked bad for the league, it is 10-15 games.
Yep. And that's why players will continue to line up those hits. Odds are you aren't going to punished in any substantial way.
 
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Suspensions are based on optics.

Both Boeser and Nurse skated off the ice : minor suspension.

If the exact same play had required a stretcher and it got traction in the US media and looked bad for the league, it is 10-15 games.

I mean dude's head did like a full 360 and he was bleeding out of his eye sockets. The league just doesn't actually care about this stuff, which we've known forever anyway.
 
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I mean dude's head did like a full 360 and he was bleeding out of his eye sockets. The league just doesn't actually care about this stuff, which we've known forever anyway.
PA never pushes for longer suspensions since that takes money away from the perpetrator. But it’s plays like that which can cost guys money in future contracts if they don’t recover back to what they were or have to end their career earlier.
 

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Suspensions are based on optics.

Both Boeser and Nurse skated off the ice : minor suspension.

If the exact same play had required a stretcher and it got traction in the US media and looked bad for the league, it is 10-15 games.

This meme chart once again came through and applied to both Jeannot and Reaves. Only slightly inaccurate part was, the league probably took into account that Jeanott had no previous history of suspensions.

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PA never pushes for longer suspensions since that takes money away from the perpetrator. But it’s plays like that which can cost guys money in future contracts if they don’t recover back to what they were or have to end their career earlier.

FWIW, it's also the union's obligation to defend their members against disciplinary action from the employer. It's on the employer to make the case for disciplinary punishment, and the NHL just doesn't seem genuinely interested in bothering with that.
 

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FWIW, it's also the union's obligation to defend their members against disciplinary action from the employer. It's on the employer to make the case for disciplinary punishment, and the NHL just doesn't seem genuinely interested in bothering with that.
I know. But both the perpetrator and victim pay union dues. NHL is always wary of a star doing something stupid like Niedermayer back in the day hitting a leaf over the head with his stick. I can’t recall the player he did it to but it was a lower level player. Don’t want to lost that kind of player for 10-12 games. So they always go lighter.

And these cases happen so quick that there is rarely any real medical update. The Reeves suspension was announced within 24 hours of it happening. Like how can you get a real medical update on Nurse? Brock has missed the Ana, Edm, Cal, Chi, Nas games so far. And likely the NYR game too. That’s going to be double the suspension of Jeannot.
 

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I know. But both the perpetrator and victim pay union dues. NHL is always wary of a star doing something stupid like Niedermayer back in the day hitting a leaf over the head with his stick. I can’t recall the player he did it to but it was a lower level player. Don’t want to lost that kind of player for 10-12 games. So they always go lighter.

And these cases happen so quick that there is rarely any real medical update. The Reeves suspension was announced within 24 hours of it happening. Like how can you get a real medical update on Nurse? Brock has missed the Ana, Edm, Cal, Chi, Nas games so far. And likely the NYR game too. That’s going to be double the suspension of Jeannot.
I mean, DOPS is run by an idiot goon in Parros and cheap shot apologist in Whitney. There's no point trying to apply logic to their decisions.

Reaves only got 5 games because it was HNIC and the Leafs. Fewer eyes, and DOPS would have been slower to act and 100% handed a lighter punishment. Biz was on the HNIC panel and even he was like, "we can't have this". Basically forced Parros' hand.
 

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I see Rutherford favorite Kasperi Kapanen is on the waiver wire--cut loose by the Blues.

Rutherford traded for him once before in Pittsburgh, but I guess that ship has sailed.
 

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Montgomery is on the hottest seat right now.

Still so funny to me how Swayman held out and robbed them, then puts up stinkers all season. And Ullmark got out just in time.

...to also put up stinkers all season.
 

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