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[Canuckle1970]

Caps beat Kings in regulation. All donations thankfully received.

 

[Bobby9]

Roslovic has 14 goals? Wow

 

[F A N]

To be fair to Trotz, he was put into a position where he was pretty much guaranteed to fail. No prior management experience and like Linden being given too big a job right away on an aging team that has never really done a rebuild in its history. He was basically given the job because of his relationship with Poile. He needed at least another year to learn the management side of the job. The biggest being learning the cap and that you can’t just spend a bunch of money on players you wanted to coach.

Well Trotz was inexperienced yes but Poile is still available to pick his brain and he has an experienced AGM in Kealty. As for learning the cap, I don't think there's that much to learn. He should know by now that there is a cap and that needs to be managed. The intricacies can be turned over to someone else. As a coach he might favour his veteran players but he should know that players do age and can rapidly decline and in the long run he needs young players.

At least with Trotz learning on the job is somewhat justified as Benning had years of AGM experience, while this is Trotz’s first management experience. That teams even hire managers with no experience is crazy though. This doesn’t really happen in the real world. Starbucks Managers were Assistant Managers first.

Other GMs should have Trotz on speed dial

There's different types of experience though. In the real work there's experience managing companies, industry experience, and company experience. Former agents, players, coaches etc. all have industry experience and or company experience. At least head coaches are closer to being involved in hockey operations than former agents and players. In hockey, it's kind of rare for a head coach to take on GM duties without being a head coach at the same time. Although I guess technically Trotz went from Senior Advisor to GM. I am surprised that Kealty didn't get the GM job and is still there.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

He's one off the lead for first in PPGs this season in only like 10 games. Surely this will keep up and be sustainable.

I mean, if the implication is that this is just a blip. He scored like 80 or 90 before he turned twenty and his shot is a very unique weapon. A team that can utilize that shot should be able to expect a massive bump to the powerplay.

If you're suggesting he won't actually score like 6 pp goals every 7 games then that's such a banal observation that it doesn't really bear stating.

 

[F A N]

I mean, if the implication is that this is just a blip. He scored like 80 or 90 before he turned twenty and his shot is a very unique weapon. A team that can utilize that shot should be able to expect a massive bump to the powerplay.

If you're suggesting he won't actually score like 6 pp goals every 7 games then that's such a banal observation that it doesn't really bear stating.

Your comment isn't directed at me, but his best season was when he was 19 when he scored 44. He has an elite shot but he's not a play driver. Between injuries and off ice issues he's been a guy who is prone to bad stretches. So ya the easy bet is that his goal scoring isn't sustainable. If he plays every single game he plays 67? games. If he plays less like 56 games I can see him scoring 26 goals.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Your comment isn't directed at me, but his best season was when he was 19 when he scored 44. He has an elite shot but he's not a play driver. Between injuries and off ice issues he's been a guy who is prone to bad stretches. So ya the easy bet is that his goal scoring isn't sustainable. If he plays every single game he plays 67? games. If he plays less like 56 games I can see him scoring 26 goals.

He can be a play driver to an extent and at his best he has been.

Let's not forget that his last two 'full' years he was almost a point a game on a terrible team while sorting through injury and mental health stuff.

And he did this as a winger on a team that lacked elite centers or D (since Werenski was hurt a ton) and without finding chemistry with Gaudreau (RIP).

Dictating play as a winger is the hardest position to try to impact a game from in hockey. For better and for worse.

I think he gets underrated.

But even if you believe he can't get back to that. I mean, he could basically be a slightly light version of late career (like the last 10 years lol) OV and notch 35-45 goals a year on the back of his absolute rocket of a shot.